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The Copilot Connection

Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell
The Copilot Connection
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    CCDev5 - One Copilot, Hybrid Intelligence and the Road to Ignite

    12/10/2026 | 49 mins.
    After a longer-than-planned break, Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder are back to catch up on the latest developments across the Copilot and extensibility landscape. The conversation starts with reflections on recent community events including Scottish Summit and Microsoft’s Fly with Copilot tour before diving into a packed set of Microsoft announcements.
    The main focus is the evolution of the new unified Copilot experience, bringing together Home, Code and Autopilot into a single destination. Kevin and Garry explore what this means for users, developers and administrators, discussing the convergence of Copilot experiences, how Copilot Code relates to GitHub Copilot, and why governance is becoming a key part of the AI story.
    They also take a deep dive into Hybrid Intelligence, local and cloud model execution, managed execution containers, and the growing importance of balancing performance, privacy and cost. The discussion continues into Agent 365 updates, new cost management capabilities, spending policies, plugin registries, skills, MCP servers and what the future of Copilot extensibility might look like as Microsoft shifts towards a plugin-centric model.
    Finally, with Microsoft Ignite approaching fast, Kevin and Garry share thoughts on what to watch for, highlight a number of upcoming community events, and explain why the next few months could be some of the most significant yet for the Microsoft Copilot ecosystem. Along the way there are the usual detours into SharePoint, governance, dancing injuries, and perhaps a few more renames than anyone expected.
    Links
    Fly with Copilot - Global AI Community
    Introducing the new Copilot with Home, Code and Autopilot - The Official Microsoft Blog
    Satya post on Infinite SaaS Factory - Post | LinkedIn
    Building Windows for hybrid intelligence | Windows Experience Blog
    Project HydraFusion: Frontier quality via multi-model orchestration - The GitHub Blog
    What's new in Agent 365 - September 2026 | Microsoft Community Hub
    Introducing the plugin registry - one place to discover and govern plugins for Microsoft Copilot | Microsoft Community Hub
    https://powerplatformconf.com/
    https://ignite.microsoft.com/
    ESPC26 | Conference | 30th Nov- 03rd Dec 2026 | Amsterdam - ESPC
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    Ep 45 - Harnesses, budgets and yet another rename

    14/08/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    The first episode after a quiet summer, and the thread running through all of it is cost and renames. Kevin opens with a confession: he spun up Cowork to write these very show notes, it ran out of budget overnight, and once he topped the budget up it burned through 2,381 credits, which
    he puts at twenty to thirty quid for maybe a fifth of what he wanted. That story turns out to be the episode in miniature, because Copilot Studio GitHub Harness has gone generally available in August based on a usage-based credit model, and this time the meter runs while you are
    still building.
    Around that we have another rename and a flattened logo, Microsoft's FY26 Q4 results with over thirty million paid Copilot seats, a leaked memo saying the AI app group has to earn the right to exist, a proper argument about whether 43 minutes a day is still how we talk
    about value, and a long run through the autumn events season. Plus AI slop, blue rings, and a festival planning app nobody asked for but made all the difference.

    Links:
    https://www.howmanyblueringsshouldihave.com/
    https://amireallyadualawardmvp.com/
    https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/copilot-studio-blog/more-powerful-agents-and-workflows-for-autonomous-business-processes-introducing/4542969
    https://microsoft.github.io/mcscatblog/posts/copilot-harness-cost-governance/
    https://futurework.blog/2026/08/14/microsoft-copilot-app-one-app-new-name-new-icon-new-url/
    https://robquickenden.blog/2026/08/copilot-unified-app/
    https://office365itpros.com/2026/07/30/fy26-q4-microsoft-results/
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7490143154260701184-rlGF
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maryleenemeric_microsoft-microsoft365-copilotstudio-activity-7485892013830266880-rUJI

    Events:
    https://ainativeworkplace.com/
    https://www.collabdays.org/2026-bletchleypark/
    https://www.scottishsummit.com
    https://espc.tech/conference/espc-2026
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    Ep 44 - FinOps Comes to Copilot and Cowork

    26/06/2026 | 39 mins.
    This week on The Copilot Connection, Kevin and Zoe dive into the growing impact of FinOps and tokenomics in the Copilot era.

    From insights at Commsverse to real-world concerns, we explore how tools like Copilot and Cowork are shifting organisations from fixed licensing to consumption-driven models - bringing both opportunity and uncertainty.

    The discussion focuses on balancing cost vs value, the importance of governance and guardrails, and why organisations must carefully pilot AI usage rather than roll it out blindly. They also highlight the challenge of helping users choose the right tool for the right task without driving up unnecessary costs.

    Useful links:
    Cowork cost management overview — https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/copilot/usage-based-billing-manage-copilot-credits
    Cowork Cost Estimator -https://aka.ms/CustomerCoworkEstimator
    Cowork Adoption site - https://adoption.microsoft.com/en-gb/copilot/cowork/ai-user/
     Cost management demo - https://demos.microsoft.com/app/present/6694#/0/0
    An unsuspecting bill - https://www.reddit.com/r/copilotstudio/comments/1ueqedl/woke_up_to_a_47k_bill_after_deploying_one_copilot/
    More on unsuspecting bills - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peter-sabapathy-71a88145_a-post-on-reddit-this-week-described-someone-share-7475913687963467778-xsXa
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    Ep 43 - Build 2026 Recap

    19/06/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    In this episode of The Copilot Connection, Kevin McDonnell and Garry Trinder dive deep into the biggest developer-focused announcements coming out of Microsoft Build—and what they actually mean in practice.
    We unpack a fast-moving couple of weeks in AI, from the shift in how Microsoft shares Build news (goodbye Book of News, hello live blog and CLI tooling), to the hands-on, lab-heavy focus that signals a return to Build’s developer roots. Expect plenty of perspective on what stood out, what worked, and what felt different this year.
    The conversation then turns to one of the headline releases: Copilot Cowork now generally available. Kevin and Garry explore how Cowork changes the way we interact with Copilot - moving from simple chat to task-driven, cloud-executed workflows with deeper Microsoft 365 integration. They share real-world usage patterns, from daily task triage to cross-device workflows, and discuss the impact of its new consumption-based pricing model (and why “value over tokens” is the mindset shift we all need).
    From there, they step into the more experimental space with Microsoft Scout—a local, autonomous agent inspired by OpenClaw that introduces concepts like heartbeats, browser automation, and powerful extensibility. The duo compare Scout vs Cowork, weighing up local vs cloud agents, flexibility vs control, and the growing importance of governance as agents gain more autonomy.

    Useful Links

    https://build.microsoft.com/
    Build Live Blog
    Build Blog - be yourself at work
    Build Next Steps GitHub Repo
    Cowork GA
    The Cowork Cookbook (community link)
    Microsoft Scout
    Work IQ GA
    Work IQ Licensing
    Windows Platform Security
    Project Solara
    Surface Laptop Ultra
    Surface RTX Spark Dev Box
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    Ep 42 - What to watch at Build with Cowork and Claws in between

    18/05/2026 | 42 mins.
    Kevin McDonnell and Zoe Wilson are back, kicking off this episode with a lively wander through Copilot Cowork in preview — from using it on mobile (sometimes unintentionally…) to early thoughts on skills, plugins, stability, and why data residency still matters if you’re experimenting in the real world. Along the way, there are opinions, tangents, and a few “this is cool, but…” moments that will feel very familiar to anyone testing Copilot right now.
    The conversation then jumps ahead to Microsoft Build, where agents, observability, and the growing obsession with value and ROI take centre stage. Kevin and Zoe unpack why business goals matter more than shiny dashboards, how Agent 365 fits into the picture, and what all this means for teams trying to move from curiosity to confidence with AI — all wrapped up with event shout‑outs, future episode teases, and the usual friendly chaos
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About The Copilot Connection
Welcome to Copilot Connection, the podcast that explores the world of Microsoft Copilots! Join your hosts, Zoe Wilson and Kevin McDonnell, as they take you on a journey through the different Copilots available and how they can help you in your day-to-day life. From the newly launch date announced Microsoft 365 Copilot to the Dynamics 365, GitHub, Windows, Custom and more Copilots, we'll cover it all. Our upbeat and engaging conversations with experts in the field will keep you entertained and informed. Tune in to Copilot Connection and discover how these AI-powered assistants can transform the way you work!Want to be interviewed for the show? Sign up at The Copilot Connection: Call for Speakers @ Sessionize.com
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