Every week we spend an hour in conversation with a notable creator, discussing their approach to audience growth, monetization, and content production. Hosted b...
Ep. 50: 1 year and 190k subscribers later: An all-in bet on indie media ft. Phil Rosen
This week Francis is joined by award winning financial reporter, Phil Rosen. Last year Phil left his role as Senior Markets Reporter at Business Insider to pursue his independent newsletter-first media company, Opening Bell Daily. His flagship newsletter Opening Bell Daily, now has over 190k subscribers within its first year of operation. Opening Bell Daily: https://www.openingbelldailynews.com Phil's X: https://x.com/philrosenn 00:00 Introducing Phil Rosen and Opening Bell Daily 02:00 Building the foundation of a successful writer 05:27 Independent journalism's rise over established media 13:49 Navigating the business side of journalism 18:22 The freedom of building a new business model 21:40 Phil's ambitions to NOT scale the business 24:32 The death of objectivity in journalism 30:48 The untapped market for valuable growth 33:40 Overcoming the fear of posting video 39:30 Paywalls: The necessary evils of the media business 44:36 Advice for aspiring writers and creators
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Ep. 49: The best time to be a writer is NOW ft. Leigh Stein
This week Francis is joined by six-time author, cultural critic and book publishing coach, Leigh Stein. Leigh is also the creator of the newsletter Attention Economy. Attention Economy: https://leighstein.substack.com/Leigh's Website: https://www.leighstein.com/00:00 Leigh's prolific content output01:43 Is now the best time to be a writer?04:38 Defining 'writing vs creating'08:47 The art is the product16:45 Does form come before content?20:25 TikToks instability and the importance of BookTok23:09 Leigh's journey through the literary world27:25 We're influencing, not influencers34:54 Writing 'Attention Economy'40:52 How to make your content shareable42:54 Destroying the stigma of self-publishing45:55 The magical portal to likeminded people48:54 Leigh's upcoming projects52:27 Advice for other creators
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Ep. 48: How to Make a Living as a Podcaster in 2025 ft. Eric Silver
This week Francis is joined by Eric Silver, a podcaster, podcast producer and head of development at Multitude, a podcast studio and production company. Multitude: https://multitude.productions 00:00 Introducing Eric Silver 03:14 Crafting your interview style 06:04 The details of teaching podcasting 11:56 Podcasting does not mean video 19:41 The future of audio-only podcasts 25:39 The intention behind the creator 28:24 What makes a good podcast guest? 31:46 The difficulties of guest-based podcasts 36:06 Building an ethical creator-first business 44:11 The rise of Actual Play podcasts 50:08 The future of worker-owned and independent media 52:57 Hank Green's best interview
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Ep. 47: Making the internet a better place ft. Matt Brown
This week Francis is joined by Matt Brown of Extra Points. With a laser focus on writing high quality content, Matt is an independent sports journalist covering the world of college sports in America. Extra Points: https://www.extrapointsmb.com 00:00:00 Introducing Matt Brown and Extra Points 00:01:47 The focus on producing quality content 00:05:26 The unique story of acquisition and reacquisition 00:13:11 Striving to make the internet a better place 00:19:36 Balancing creativity and business in the creator economy 00:22:53 The values and integrity of independent journalism 00:26:27 Vox Media: The bootcamp for independent journalists 00:35:28 Understanding your community 00:42:29 Providing value with high-ticket and low-ticket offers 00:55:41 Analytics are not money 00:59:59 Bridging the gap between communities through sport 01:04:09 The decentralization of media
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Ep. 46: "I'm not a creator, I'm a writer" ft. Alicia Kennedy
This week Francis is joined by essayist and culture critic, Alicia Kennedy. Alicia is primarily a food writer, however also has many refined takes on writing, the algorithm, and the attention economy.Alicia's Newsletter: https://www.aliciakennedy.news/00:00:00 Introducing Alicia Kennedy00:01:38 Rejecting the idea of the creator00:07:06 Declining media literacy in the digital age00:12:36 The fragmentation of public intellectualism00:17:09 Attaching value to greatest achievements00:19:32 The creator economy tradeoff of freedom and instability00:29:33 The need for publications that challenge food writing norms00:35:08 The blurred line between influencers and creators00:40:13 Building a like-minded diverse community00:43:58 The key to consistent organic growth00:47:10 The need for a more horizontal media ecosystem00:52:32 Navigating platforms with limited audience engagement control00:57:51 Experience of writing a book vs newsletters
Every week we spend an hour in conversation with a notable creator, discussing their approach to audience growth, monetization, and content production. Hosted by Francis Zierer (Twitter and LinkedIn).New episodes every Thursday.This podcast is part of our newsletter, Creator Spotlight.
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