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The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast

Brian Gatens
The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast
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  • The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast

    Episode 150 - Dan Brannen: Endurance Legend and The Best First Teammate A Guy Could Ask For

    22/02/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
    Episode 150 of The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast honors a milestone with someone who embodies the long arc of endurance sport — Dan Brannen.
    Dan was my first adventure racing teammate back in 2011, when I was just breaking into the sport. But long before that, he had already built a remarkable career across decades of endurance.
    A winner of the legendary JFK 50 Mile, former American record holder in the 48-hour run, multi-day competitor, and inductee into the American Ultra Running Hall of Fame, Dan’s legacy extends far beyond his race results. He played a pivotal role in organizing and legitimizing ultra running at both the national and international levels, helping establish championship pathways and governance structures that still shape the sport today.
    In this conversation, we explore:
    How influential coaches shaped his early running career
    The explosion of the American running boom in the 1970s
    Multi-day racing on indoor tracks and the psychology of going long
    Why adventure racing in his 50s opened up a new dimension of challenge
    What separates strong teammates from fragile ones
    The concept of “discomfort management” — and why endurance success isn’t about absorbing pain, but navigating it intelligently

    At 72, Dan continues to race, design courses, and shape the adventure racing community through events like the Fool’s Rogaine. His story is one of patience, persistence, humility, and quiet leadership.
    Episode 150 is both personal and historical — a tribute to a first teammate and to a man who has helped build multiple sports from the inside out.
    Sponsor Links:
    Adventure Addicts Racing's Brake The Habit AR - https://www.adventureaddictsracing.com/copy-of-brake-the-habit-1
    Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/
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    TDZ & The 2026 Katie Cookie Ride to benefit St. Jude Children’s Hospital

    19/02/2026 | 3 mins.
    For almost 150 episodes, The Dark Zone has been free — stories of grit, uncertainty, partnership, and the long road through the unknown.
    Now we’re turning those miles into something bigger.
    From March 19–22, 2026, Bob Mina and Brian Gatens of TDZ will attempt to ride 400 miles from West Chester, Pennsylvania to The College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. No guarantees. No shortcuts. Just four days and a whole lot of pedaling.
    We’re calling it Katie’s Cookie Ride.
    For years, Bob has baked cookies for his daughter Katie. This time, he’s baking a batch and carrying them 400 miles south — turning a simple family tradition into a fundraiser for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
    At St. Jude, families never receive a bill for treatment. Every dollar raised goes directly to their lifesaving mission. Bob and Brian are covering the full cost of the ride themselves.
    If The Dark Zone has ever kept you company on a long run, a long drive, or a long trainer session — this is a chance to pay it forward.
    Live tracking for the ride is being generously provided by Mark Harris of Enabled Tracking, and we’ll be updating along the way.
    Donation Link Here
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    Episode 149.5 - Crafting Adventure @ Mechukha — India’s ARWS Expedition

    08/02/2026 | 58 mins.
    In this episode of The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast, we sit down with the team behind a new and exciting expedition-length race — Ajita Madan and Sayeesha Kirani, founders of NthAdventure, alongside Heidi Muller and Stephan Muller, veteran adventure race directors. Together they unpack the story, strategy, and heart behind Adventure @ Mechukha, India’s first Adventure Racing World Series Qualifier.
    Recorded against a backdrop of jaw-dropping landscapes and months of race build-up, our conversation explores what it takes to bring a world-class 450 km expedition to life in one of the most remote corners of Arunachal Pradesh. The team shares the logistics and cultural collaborations that define the race — from engaging local communities and navigating rugged borderland terrain to designing a course that tests the mettle of any expedition-caliber team.
    Ajita and Sayeesha reflect on their decade-long journey growing adventure racing in India — from regional events to hosting international qualifiers — while Heidi and Stephan offer global perspective on why Mechukha is a pivotal new chapter for international adventure racing. Listeners gain insight into the philosophy of expedition race design, the importance of place and people in endurance sport, and what this race means for future athletes eager to chart their own path to the Adventure Racing World Championship.
    Whether you’re a seasoned adventure racer or new to the sport’s expansive world, this episode is a deep dive into the passion, planning, and community that fuel adventure racing at its highest level — from the Himalayan borderlands to the global stage.
    Shownotes:
    Nth Adventure Site - https://www.nthadventure.com/adventureatmechukha
    ARWS Site - https://arworldseries.com/races/424
    Sponsor Links:
    Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.com
    Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/
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    Episode 149 - When It Clicked: The Wonky Donkeys and The Legend Adventure Race

    29/12/2025 | 1h 4 mins.
    You’re listening to The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast, where we try to understand how adventure races really play out—over long distances, under fatigue, and within the relationships that make or break a team.
    Today’s episode is a conversation with Emily Panietz and Becca Lunnon, racing as The Wonky Donkeys, about their strong showing at The Legend Adventure Race in Tasmania.
    That result didn’t come out of nowhere. In earlier races, Emily and Becca struggled at times with communication and teamwork—misaligned expectations, moments of frustration, and the normal growing pains that come with learning how to race together. Those experiences didn’t end in easy results, but they did give them a clearer sense of what needed to change.
    At The Legend, that work showed. Over the course of a long, technical race, they communicated more clearly, managed decisions together, and stayed connected when things got difficult. Rather than trying to force the race, they settled into a rhythm that allowed them to move steadily and efficiently through the course.
    In this episode, we talk about that progression—what didn’t work early on, how they adjusted, and why The Legend felt like a genuinely strong race for them as teammates. It’s a conversation about learning, adapting, and how growth over time can turn into a result that feels earned.
    Shownotes:
    The Legend - https://www.legendexpd.com.au/
    Sponsor Links:
    Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.com
    Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/
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    Episode 148 - Slade Combs: Fear, Performance, and Adventure Racing

    23/12/2025 | 1h
    In this episode of The Dark Zone, we sit down with Slade Combs, a performance coach who helps people understand, confront, and work through fear — not by eliminating it, but by learning how to carry it well. Whether you’re standing on a start line, staring down a scary race section, preparing for a big presentation, or simply trying to perform when the stakes feel high, fear shows up. The question isn’t if — it’s how.
    Slade brings a calm, practical, and deeply human approach to performance. We talk about why fear feels so powerful, how it is rooted in our life experience, and what actually helps when confidence wavers and doubt creeps in. This isn’t about hype or shortcuts. It’s about awareness, practice, and building trust in yourself when conditions aren’t perfect.
    Adventure racing lives in the margins — fatigue, uncertainty, imperfect information. So does life. This conversation bridges both worlds, offering insight for adventure racers, leaders, creatives, and anyone who wants to show up more fully when it matters most.
    Shownotes:
    https://www.sladecombs.com/
    https://ardarkzone.com/2025/04/04/episode-121-dave-jackson-of-cavesim-what-caving-can-teach-adventure-racers-about-fear-focus-and-teamwork/
    Sponsor Links:
    Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.com
    Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/
    Adventureware Shop - https://adventureware.shop/

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The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast welcomes you to our world. Come hear from racers, race directors, fans of AR, and everyone in between. The podcast's out there, you pick it up, it's yours, you don't, I got no sympathy for you. (as inspired by Glengarry Glenn Ross)
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