The Kids or Childfree Podcast

We're kicking off Season 7 of the podcast with financial experts and co-authors of the book "Money Together," Heather and Douglas Boneparth.

This conversation explores:
The often-overlooked financial considerations that come with the decision to have children.


Douglas and Heather's own financial hurdles when they first considered parenthood, including over $300,000 in student loan debt.


Why emotional readiness can often take precedence over financial calculations — even when "the math doesn't math".
The critical conversations you and your partner need to be having before having kids.


Why "contribution" goes far beyond the financial, and how to navigate the topic of contribution when one or both parents steps away from or back from paid work to raise children. 

As mentioned in the show:

Find details about and links to purchase Money Together, here. 

Heather is on Instagram at instagram.com/averagejoelle
Douglas is on Instagram at instagram.com/dougboneparth

Their website is domoneytogether.com

Subscribe to Douglas and Heather's "The Joint Account" Newsletter

About Heather & Douglas Boneparth:

Douglas Boneparth, is the founder of Bone Fide Wealth, a wealth management firm in New York City. Recognized as one of the nation's most influential financial advisors, Douglas serves on the advisory councils for CNBC and Investopedia. He has been featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, and more. He is also a CFP Board Ambassador for New York. Douglas received his B.S. from the University of Florida and his M.B.A. from NYU's Stern School of Business. When he's not making jokes on the internet, he enjoys brewing coffee, though he can do both at the same time.
Heather Boneparth is used to wearing many hats. On her first maternity leave, she co-authored the couple's first book on helping millennials achieve financial freedom. Since then, she has become a rising voice at the intersection of love, money, and family. She has written for CNBC, theSkimm, Insider, Scary Mommy, and more. As a lawyer, she spent more than a decade in the insurance industry before joining the family business as Bone Fide Wealth's director of business and legal affairs. She received her B.S. from the University of Florida and her J.D. from the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law.
Heather and Douglas met in college and consider themselves Gators for life. They now live in New Jersey with their two daughters.

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In this episode, Keltie Maguire discusses some of the key themes and insights that have come up in her private and group coaching sessions during Season 6 of The Kids or Childfree Podcast, as well as episodes from Season 6 that address these topics. 
 
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE 
👉 (1:57) Start with the clarity you DO have
▸ Lisa Sibbett on a "Childful" Life as an Auntie https://youtu.be/3jx_vDnN80U
▸ Lisa Patterson on Reinventing Parenting Gender Norms https://youtu.be/RIBohGjaQGc
▸ On Demand: Discover Your Desires https://keltiemaguire.thrivecart.com/discover-your-desires-on-demand/
 
👉 (9:37) Your value with or without children
▸ Laura Carroll on the Influence of Pronatalism on Your Kids or Childfree Choice https://youtu.be/hbcBNrDRCWA
▸ Zoë Noble on Cultivating Childfree Community https://youtu.be/LG66KPG2nzo
▸ On Demand: Other People https://keltiemaguire.thrivecart.com/other-people-on-demand/
 
👉 (18:58) Deciding from the place you are currently
▸ Carrie Hauskens on a Childfree Life After Loss https://youtu.be/ZAy40xWlFjw
▸ Lia Love Avellino, LCSW on Grieving Your Past Life in Motherhood https://youtu.be/VSyvll_I94c
▸ On Demand: Navigating Difficult Emotions https://keltiemaguire.thrivecart.com/navigating-difficult-emotions-on-demand/
 
👉 (29:41) Accept & embrace the unknown 
▸ Ask Anne with Childfree 91-Year-Old Anne Wennhold https://youtu.be/EalIknfBD9U
▸ Katie Palazzo on Life as an Adventurer Turned Stay-At-Home Mom https://youtu.be/yZaVidB4WDQ
▸ On Demand: An Uncertain Future https://keltiemaguire.thrivecart.com/an-uncertain-future-on-demand/
 
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In this conversation, Keltie Maguire is joined by We Are Childfree founder, Zoë Noble, for a conversation that's a celebration of the childfree choice.

Hear them discuss:
The inspiration behind We Are Childfree and why Zoë personally chose the childfree path


How friendships — and especially those with parents — can evolve over time


How to cultivate childfree community 


The myths surrounding aging without children


The importance of advocating for a more inclusive and understanding childfree community
As mentioned in the show:

Find We Are Childfree online at wearechildfree.com.

Join We Are Childfree'a private community here: wwearechildfree.com/join

We Are Childfree is on social media at:
Instagram at instagram.com/weare.childfree
TikTok at tiktok.com/@wearechildfree
YouTube at youtube.com/c/WeareChildfree

Tune into the We Are Childfree podcast: wearechildfree.com/podcasts


About Zoë:

Zoe Noble is a photographer and the founder of We are Childfree, a global movement celebrating childfree lives. Through portraits, podcasts and workshops, she works to destigmatise non-parenthood and build inclusive communities where childfree people feel seen, supported and empowered to live authentically.

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In this conversation, Keltie sits down with transracial adoptee, author, and advocate, Melissa Guida-Richards, for a conversation about adoption, and the considerations prospective adoptive parents need to make. 

They discuss:

Melissa's personal experience as an adoptee, and why it's critical that we listen to and learn from adoptees.
The key question prospective adoptive parents need to ask themselves before they adopt.


The myth that adopting an infant offers that child — and its adoptive parents — a "fresh start."


Why adoption agencies who encourage people to adopt outside of their adoption preferences, can be problematic.


The different kinds of adoption, and the respective practical and ethical considerations that must be made.

As mentioned in the show:

Find Melissa on Instagram at @adoptee_thoughts

Her website is www.adopteethoughts.com

Purchase Melissa's book and it's accompanying workbook, What White Parents Should Know About Transracial Adoption: adopteethoughts.com/books

For adoption resources, check out adoptionsupport.org (C.A.S.E) and adopteementorship.org.


About Melissa:

Melissa Guida-Richards is a transracial adoptee, author, and advocate whose work explores child welfare, adoption influencers ethics and reform. She is the author of What White Parents Should Know About Transracial Adoption and she's had her writing and interviews featured on national platforms including NBC, Good Day LA and Tamron Hall. She is currently working on her next book with her agent, Kat Kerr, from Donald Maass Literary Agency. You can find her @adoptee_thoughts or AdopteeThoughts.com.
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In this episode, Keltie is joined by past guest, Anne Wennhold — a 91-year-old who is childfree by choice — for a special "Ask Anne" Q&A.

Keltie and Anne discuss...
Why the 70s and 80s were the best years of Anne's life.


Why Anne often finds it difficult relating to other people her age.


How we can handle the difficulties and challenges that inevitably will arise in our lives.


Anne's secret to maintaining friendships with parents.


How Anne has navigated seeing her friends and loved ones die.


Perspectives on who to leave your possessions and money to when you die as a childfree person.


As mentioned in the show:

Listen to Anne's first appearance on the podcast in Episode 62. 
Here's the Conscious Eldering blog post that Anne wrote which we discussed.

About Anne:

Here's Anne in her words:

"I live alone in northern New Jersey. I was widowed at an early age, have no children by choice. My chosen family is scattered about the USA and available by phone and Zoom. At 90 years old, I am focused on working with elders who are interested in continuing to grow as human and spiritual beings, and sharing with them all aspects of living to an older age including having children or not."
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