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The Kids or Childfree Podcast

Keltie Maguire
The Kids or Childfree Podcast
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    96. Nicole Louie on Others Like Me (re-release)

    04/03/2026 | 58 mins.
    [re-release] We're re-releasing this episode from August 2024 in promotion of an upcoming event! On March 26, 2026, join me and special guest Nicole Louie for the Childfree Book Club! We'll discuss her book, Others Like Me as part of the Confidently Childfree Support Series.
    Details & signup ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series
     
    In this conversation (which first aired in August 2024), Keltie interviews Nicole Louie: writer, translator, and author of the brand-new book, Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children.

    You'll hear them discuss:
    Nicole's experience of not wanting to become a mother from a young age and the challenges she faced in navigating societal expectations.


    The importance of turning up the volume on one's own voice and inner knowledge when making the decision to be childfree.


    The inspiration behind Others Like Me, and how it's fourteen stories highlight the diversity of experiences and perspectives within the childfree community.


    The complexities of the decision to have children or remain childfree.


    The need for inclusivity and understanding among women without children, and the dangers of imposing labels and categories on others. 


    How intergenerational connections between women without children of different ages can provide support, wisdom, and inspiration.


    (2:09) Meet Nicole & her Kids or Childfree decision
    (22:20) Visualizing a childfree future
    (32:17) Inclusivity & individuality in the childfree community
    (40:49) Identity beyond mother vs. childfree woman
    As mentioned in the show:

    Get a ticket to join our upcoming Confidently Childfree Book Club where we'll be joined by Nicole for a discussion and Q&A about Others Like Me: https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series

    Find Nicole on Instagram: instagram.com/bynicolelouie

    And on Twitter: twitter.com/bynicolelouie

    Read Nicole's book, Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children. 


    About Nicole:

    Nicole Louie is a writer and translator based in Ireland. A former content strategist and creative writer for virtual assistants, she holds a BA in advertising and postgraduate diplomas in literature and translation. When not writing, she is reading about the lives of women without children. Her essays have appeared in Oh Reader and Childfree Magazine and her curated collections of books, movies, and podcasts about women who are not mothers by choice, infertility, circumstance or ambivalence can be found on Twitter and Instagram: @bynicolelouie. Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children is her first book.


    About Others Like Me:

    Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children by Nicole Louie (published by Dialogue Books in the UK in June & House of Anansi in North America).

    A deeply personal exploration of childless and childfree women in their own words.

    Others Like Me is the story of fourteen women around the world, from different walks of life, who don't have children. It's also the story of why Nicole Louie had to find them and what they taught her. Part memoir, part exploration of childlessness through candid conversations, this book showcases the many ways in which people find fulfillment outside of parenthood. And because the social expectation to procreate weighs the most on women, Louie focuses solely on them, their experiences, and how they flourish outside of motherhood. In doing so, she upends the stereotypes that diminish women who are not mothers and offers reassurance and companionship on a path less known.



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    You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify.

    Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com.

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

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    95. Dr. Jay Zigmont, CFP on Childfree Trust & Estate Planning

    19/02/2026 | 41 mins.
    In this episode, Dr. Jay Zigmont returns to the podcast to discuss the unique future planning needs of childfree individuals. 

    He and Keltie chat about:
    The importance of having proper medical and financial directives and the necessity of a support team.


    The paperwork and planning documents every childfree person should have in place.


    Why relying on a family member to help you manage future estate and health concerns is usually a bad idea.


    The special considerations for estate planning that cater to those without kids.


    Legacy planning and the impact childfree individuals can make in their lives and communities.


    (0:22) Meet Dr. Jay and his project Childfree Trust 
    (11:31) Estate & medical emergency planning for childfree people
    (24:34) Special challenges in documents for childfree people
    (29:10) How to think about aging as a childfree individual
     
    As mentioned in the show:

    Hear Jay's first appearance on the podcast in Episode 24: kidsorchildfree.com/podcast/episode/219886a3/24-dr-jay-zigmont-cfp-on-childfree-wealth-and-legacy
    Find Dr. Jay on Instagram: instagram.com/childfreewealth/

    On LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/childfree-wealth/

    Find out more about Dr. Jay and Childfree Trust at childfreetrust.com

    Join our upcoming Confidently Childfree Support Session with Dr. Jay (happening on May 11th) here: https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series

    About Dr. Jay:

    Dr. Jay Zigmont is on a mission to help people without kids live their best lives, with the plan and finances to support it.
    He's a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER® and Childfree Wealth Specialist® with Childfree Wealth®. In short, he's the go-to expert on navigating the financial road less traveled for people without kids.
    He's the author of The Childfree Guide to Life and Money and a cohost of the Childfree Life by Design podcast, where he drops expert knowledge with a dose of humor.
    Dr. Jay is a frequent contributor to top-tier media outlets, including Forbes, C-Span TheStreet, and the Wall Street Journal.

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    🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series
    Work with me in 1-on-1 COACHING
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/coaching
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    94. Amrita Vijay on When Platonic Life Partners Have a Child

    12/02/2026 | 1h 18 mins.
    In this episode of the podcast, Keltie speaks with creative director, producer, musician, and writer, Amrita Vijay, about her decision to have a child with her platonic life partner, Andrew.

    You'll hear about:
    Why Amrita never wanted kids — and what made her change her mind


    How Amrita and her gay best friend, Andrew, decided to become co-parents


    How her and Andrew's unique relationship allows them to challenge traditional gender roles — and the pressures and expectations that still exist as a straight-presenting "couple" (who aren't actually a couple)


    The importance of questioning societal expectations around marriage and family — and how doing so, can create new ways of having kids and experiencing family
    What Andrew and Amrita's co-parenting relationship entails, and how they're navigating dating, future partners, and living arrangements


    (0:46) Meet Amita and her Kids or Childfree decision (12:00)
    (15:00) Deciding to have a kid with her platonic life partner
    (28:41) Gender norms in parenting in a platonic relationship
    (39:49) Legal and logistical framework 
    (52:04) Navigating outside opinions
    (1:05:14) Reflections on parenthood
    Mentioned in this episode:

    Find Amita on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vijayandstephens

    Her and Andrew's website is: emergencycontacts.substack.com

    Watch Amrita and Andrew's short film, LOOSELY — inspired by their decision to have kids together, and viewable on a private link here: https://vimeo.com/788430913/bc7f928154

    Check out Amrita and Andrew's feature on Storyworth, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS_1ZCkQtJU
    Join one of our monthly SUPPORT SERIES sessions
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series
    🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series


    About Amrita:

    Amrita and Andrew are platonic life partners, artistic co-conspirators, and parents to a good baby. We write, we podcast, we broadcast, we produce, we sing, we create collaborative art onstage and onscreen — and, we reimagine family life as platonic co-parents to our son. All of these things contribute to our central vision, where direct, human connection is at the center.

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    MORE HELP FOR YOUR KIDS OR CHILDFREE DECISION
    Start Here: sign up for an upcoming WORKSHOP
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/workshop
    Join a GROUP PROGRAM
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Group Program ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program
    🔗Confidently Childfree Group Intensive ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-group-intensive
    Access an ON DEMAND class
    🔗 Peruse the entire On Demand Collection ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/ondemand
    Join one of our monthly SUPPORT SERIES sessions
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series
    🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series
    Work with me in 1-on-1 COACHING
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/coaching
    FREE resources ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources
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    93. Keltie Maguire on Will Future Me Regret My Choice?

    04/02/2026 | 26 mins.
    In this solo episode Keltie is tackling a frequent question she gets from fence-sitters: "I know what I want today — but wow do I know whether future me will regret my choice?"

    This episode gets into..
    Why it's important to consider who we're making this decision for — our present or future self


    How to instill confidence that although you might change, there is a lot that will remain the same


    Why faith in our future self is essential to making a confident choice


    The importance of recognizing our inherent resilience in the face of future challenges and regrets


    How being intentional can help us cultivate trust that we're making the right decision 


    (0:50) How do I trust that my future self will want the things that I think I want today? 
    (2:15) A decision for my present self vs. future self
    (7:05) How to account for change
    (11:21) Cultivating self-trust
    MORE HELP FOR YOUR KIDS OR CHILDFREE DECISION
    Start Here: sign up for an upcoming WORKSHOP
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/workshop
    Join a GROUP PROGRAM
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Group Program ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program
    🔗Confidently Childfree Group Intensive ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-group-intensive
    Access an ON DEMAND class
    🔗 Peruse the entire On Demand Collection ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/ondemand
    Join one of our monthly SUPPORT SERIES sessions
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series
    🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series
    Work with me in 1-on-1 COACHING
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/coaching
    FREE resources ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources
    CONNECT ONLINE
    💻 Website ▸ http://kidsorchildfree.com
    📸 Instagram ▸ http://instagram.com/kidsorchildfree
    ⏰ Tiktok ▸ https://tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree
    📽️ YouTube ▸ https://www.youtube.com/@KidsorChildfree 
    👉 Brought to you by Keltie Maguire, Clarity Coach ▸ http://keltiemaguire.com
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    92. Gemma Hartley on Emotional Labor and the Parenthood Path

    28/01/2026 | 53 mins.
    Keltie is joined by freelance writer and author of the book, Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward, Gemma Hartley.

    Their discussion explores...
    What terms like emotional labor, mental load, and invisible labor actually mean.


    The interplay of these things within partnerships, and in particular, the decision to have kids.


    Why having children exacerbates existing imbalances in relationships.


    The impact of societal expectations on women, and how social conditioning causes women to shoulder more emotional labor.


    Gemma's personal parenthood journey, as a mother of three, and how she and her partner corrected their emotional labor imbalance and built a more equitable partnership.
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    (2:05) Meet Gemma & her Kids or Childfree decision (8:43)
    (4:32) Defining emotional labor, mental load, and invisible labor
    (11:16) Tips for navigating an emotional labor imbalance & parenthood
    (23:20) How Gemma and her husband built a more equitable partnership
    (36:36) Mental load with multiple kids
    (46:04) Solo parenthood
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    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
    Gemma's Instagram ▸ https://www.instagram.com/gemmalhartley/
    Gemma's Substack, Angry Woman ▸ https://gemmahartley.substack.com
    Gemma's first book, Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward ▸ https://bookshop.org/p/books/fed-up-emotional-labor-women-and-the-way-forward-gemma-hartley/933f0f3a89b3cb4b?ean=9780062856463&next=t  
    Order Gemma's forthcoming book, No One Loves An Angry Woman ▸ https://bit.ly/3Z57qWU
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    ABOUT GEMMA
    Gemma Hartley is a longtime freelance writer, writing coach, yoga instructor and most notably author of Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward. She has spoken on the topic of the mental load and emotional labor around the world, from corporate conferences to festivals at the Sydney Opera House. Her hope is to create work that encourages a more equitable world in which invisible labor is valued and supported by both personal partners and public policy alike.
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    MORE HELP FOR YOUR KIDS OR CHILDFREE DECISION
    Start Here: sign up for an upcoming WORKSHOP
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/workshop
    Join a GROUP PROGRAM
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Group Program ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program
    🔗Confidently Childfree Group Intensive ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-group-intensive
    Access an ON DEMAND class
    🔗 Peruse the entire On Demand Collection ▸ https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/ondemand
    Join one of our monthly SUPPORT SERIES sessions
    🔗 Kids or Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series
    🔗Confidently Childfree Support Series ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series
    Work with me in 1-on-1 COACHING
    🔗 https://kidsorchildfree.com/coaching
    FREE resources ▸ https://kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources
    CONNECT ONLINE
    💻 Website ▸ http://kidsorchildfree.com
    📸 Instagram ▸ http://instagram.com/kidsorchildfree
    ⏰ Tiktok ▸ https://tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree
    📽️ YouTube ▸ https://www.youtube.com/@KidsorChildfree 
    👉 Brought to you by Keltie Maguire, Clarity Coach ▸ http://keltiemaguire.com
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About The Kids or Childfree Podcast

Should I have kids? If you're on the fence about whether or not to have kids, this is your podcast. Each week, host and Clarity Coach, Keltie Maguire, will interview a wide-ranging host of different voices — from best-selling authors to outdoor adventurers to health experts — about their personal Kids or Childfree decision and the topics that run alongside this choice. From new and long-time moms to the currently ambivalent to those who are childfree by choice, you'll get to hear the answers to all the questions you can't seem to get straight answers on. What's it really like being a parent? What happens to childfree people when they get old? Do people who don't have kids regret it? Can you ever really be ready to have a child? And perhaps most importantly: How can I make my own Kids or Childfree decision?
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