35 episodes
Who owns work redesign, and what has to be true first | Accenture's Matthew Morgan on skills technology, ownership, and the questions nobody asks
27/08/2026 | 35 mins.Every leadership team is now asking which work goes to agents. Almost nobody has answered the harder question sitting underneath it: who owns the answer.
The business owns the process, IT owns the deployment, talent owns the skills data, and total rewards owns the pay bands, which means any one of them acting alone produces a redesign that falls over within a quarter.
Matthew Morgan, Managing Director for Talent Reinvention at Accenture, has spent twenty-five years in job architecture and skills data, and he is watching four client organizations run at this problem right now. He came in with a sharper starting point than most: stop leading with skills, and start with tasks.
Timestamps:
01:05 - HR’s moment to lead, and why it is still playing catch-up
03:10 - What “talent reinvention” means, and how it differs from transformation
06:23 - Why tasks, not skills, are the language your business already speaks
09:22 - What has to be true before a skills technology works at your company
11:29 - Where to draw the line between redesigning work and just automating tasks
14:26 - The four-legged stool: who actually owns work redesign
16:36 - Agents in the org chart: what Matt has and has not seen in practice
19:58 - Cloudflare’s 20% layoff and the sellers, builders, measurers split
30:37 - The three questions to answer before you buy any AI tool“It's not a super sexy problem, but it's the foundation of everything.” | Ian Bailie, Synopsys' VP of People Strategy, on a best-of-breed skills stack
03/08/2026 | 42 mins.Most companies chase a skills strategy and end up with a portal nobody opens. Ian Bailie has built this twice, once at Cisco a decade ago, the hard way, and now at Synopsys, a 40-year-old company that just doubled in size and absorbed a $35 billion acquisition. His take is blunt: stop turning skills into an HR project. Lead with what AI is doing to the actual work, fix your job architecture first, and give people a reason to care before you ever ask them to touch a profile.
Timestamps
00:45 — The Kyle Forrest question: how to actually get HR, IT and finance in one room
02:30 — Why “we're HR, and we have the solution” is the wrong way in
06:00 — Doing this at Cisco 10 years ago, before the tech existed
07:50 — The Synopsys stakes: doubled size, a $35B acquisition, 40 years of legacy
11:30 — 3,000 people, one job title: when job architecture is too simple
15:00 — Why he refused to buy another skills portal
22:00 — One taxonomy, three platforms: Degreed, Avature, BetterWorks
27:40 — Automate, augment, human-only: reading the task data
31:00 — Giving people the agency over how AI changes their job
38:30 — HR's moment, and the risk of missing it“Nothing’s being asked of HR that hasn’t been asked before.” | Deloitte's Kyle Forrest on zero-based work, spotting fake AI agents, and what the CHRO job becomes by 2030
22/07/2026 | 51 mins.Every vendor at every conference is selling you an agent. Most of them are selling you a workflow with a chat window. Kyle Forrest runs Deloitte’s Future of HR practice and its Next Generation CHRO Academy, and he spends his weeks in the room with CHROs trying to separate the real from the rebranded. In this episode, he lays out the test for a genuine agent, why “make HR strategic” has been the same ask since the 1980s, and what it actually costs a leader to redesign a function that includes their own job.
Timestamps:
02:00 - The knowledge walking out the door as boomers retire
09:36 - Can HR’s “unique AI moment” and “nothing new here” both be true?
15:37 - The three types of HR function, and why “be strategic” is a lazy demand
24:00 - Stagility: 75% of workers want stability, 85% of execs want agility
28:09 - 42% of workers say no one is measuring AI’s impact on them
31:45 - AI assisted, augmented, powered: telling people where their role is headed
33:19 - Zero-based work: should this work even exist?
40:55 - The BS test for a real agent versus a workflow with a chat window
47:10 - The trend Kyle wants you to push back on: pre-built agents“What took us months now takes minutes.” | Cotality CHRO Kendra Angier on building a skills engine, engaging the C-suite, and her 12-24mo strategy
26/06/2026 | 41 mins.Most skills programs never make it out of the spreadsheet. Cotality's CHRO spent nine months trying to hand-build a skills taxonomy before she killed it and started over.
In this episode, Kendra Angier explains how she rebuilt the workforce-intelligence stack around dynamic data, pulled her COO, CTO, and CFO into the buying decision, and earned an 80% employee NPS on skills along the way. It's a candid look at what actually moves a skills strategy from theory to Monday-morning reality.
Timestamps
00:50 - Why she rejects the idea that AI is killing early talent
02:43 - The Cotality rebrand, and what it demands from the workforce
06:09 - The case for a 12-24 month horizon, not a ten-year plan
08:36 - How she got the CFO, COO and CTO to fund skills
13:42 - The nine-month taxonomy that nearly broke the team
21:22 - “What took us months now takes minutes”
25:47 - Why the change-management risk beats the data risk
38:17 - From chief HR officer to chief work officerAstraZeneca’s 4-year Odyssey with skills intelligence | Lara Martinez, Global Director of Talent Intelligence, on why agility beats the SBO label
17/06/2026 | 38 mins.Everyone wants a “skills-based organization.” Almost no one has built one.
At AstraZeneca, Global Director of Talent Intelligence Lara Martinez Gonzalez has spent four years connecting a tangle of recruitment systems, development platforms, and job architecture into one language for the workforce, and she’s blunt about how hard it has been.
In this episode, she argues skills is a data problem, not an HR project, explains why she refuses to say the word “skills” in front of business leaders, and shows where the value has actually landed so far. Plus the trap that cost her almost a year, and the company she’s seen get closest to skills-native.
Timestamps:
00:57 — The one skills claim leaders should push back on
02:05 — Four years of skills work, told as an Odyssey
05:46 — How to pick which problem to solve first
10:48 — Why she drops the word “skills” in business meetings
16:30 — Reading the market: from skills to tasks
20:19 — Who should own tasks: HR or the business?
21:54 — The honest ROI: “still squeezing the lemon”
31:32 — Her 90-day advice to peers two years in
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