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  • Cultural Emergence and Permaculture with Looby Macnamara
    In this week’s episode of the Wild Minds Podcast, I speak with Looby Macnamara about permaculture, cultural emergence, and how small shifts in our habits and decision-making can lead us toward a more sustainable future. We discuss how thinking outside the box and embracing the unexpected can open up new pathways for growth. Here are the key takeaways:Looby explains how permaculture is not just about gardening but about a way of thinking, feeling, and observing that affects all parts of life, including relationships, health, and well-being.The importance of Earth care, People care, and Fair share as foundational principles for creating a more sustainable world, and how cultural emergence can shift societal norms in a regenerative direction.We explore how to make decisions that align with permaculture ethics, moving away from judgment and fostering a “culture of allowance” to support thoughtful choices without alienating others.The idea of “doing the unexpected” and stepping out of traditional pathways, like the conventional education-to-job journey, to embrace the unknown and create new opportunities for ourselves.Reflecting on personal habits, I talk about how we can support teenagers in making healthier choices, such as moving away from fast food culture, in a non-judgmental way that empowers their decisions rather than imposes them.We discuss the power of context in decision-making, like the cultural norms around eating, and the differences between being “caring” (e.g., choosing comfort food like rum and coke) versus “healthy” (e.g., making choices that support well-being and Earth care).Looby highlights the importance of understanding the context when addressing choices, such as in the case of militant veganism or the ethics of eating roadkill deer, showing how context shapes our understanding and decisions.Looby shares how the Design Web can be used in everyday life, from parenting to teaching, to help people make better, more creative decisions and take responsibility for their choices.Emergence is central to Looby’s approach—how when we embrace uncertainty and let go of rigid expectations, we create space for new insights, collaboration, and action.Show Notes:https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-63-cultural-emergence-and-permaculture-with-looby-macnamara/ Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors!Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode!Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.
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  • Untamed Knowing
    In this episode, I reflect on the importance of slowing down and being present in the natural world, while exploring how our perceptions and beliefs shape our reality. I delve into the limitations of scientific objectivity, the influence of our environment on our well-being, and the need for a deeper, more holistic way of understanding ourselves and the world around us. Here are the key takeaways from this episode:The importance of engaging with the more-than-human world for reassurance, as a counter to the messiness of human-made realms (political, economic).The inadequacy of scientific objectivity as a worldview; reality is also shaped by subjective and environmental factors.How we now need to develop critical thinking skills, especially in navigating multiple perspectives and complex truths.Reflection on environmental education, particularly the spiritual dimension and how it is often excluded from mainstream teaching.Indigenous knowledge is a more holistic view of the world, combining heart, head, soul, and spirit, in contrast to the fragmented Western scientific approach.Insights on how modern science and technology (like AI, quantum physics, and systems thinking) challenge traditional mechanistic views of the world.The significance of our environment and its direct influence on our health, with much of our well-being shaped by it rather than clinical care – Salutogenesis. Historical shift around the 1750s during the Industrial Revolution, where human dominance and technological advances led to exponential growth and global impact.Exploration of the Dunning-Kruger effect: people with less knowledge often overestimate their competence.A call to reconnect with nature, slow down, and notice the present moment as a revolutionary act in a fast-paced world.Emphasis on the role of psyche in connecting to something beyond the self-conscious mind, with parallels drawn to the creative processes of great scientists like Newton and Einstein.Show Notes:https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-62-untamed-knowing/Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.comPlease Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors!Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode!Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.
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  • Deep Ecology & the Healing of Separation with John Seed
    In this episode of Wild Minds, I’m honoured to be in conversation with John Seed — a true elder of the environmental movement and one of the most influential voices in deep ecology. He influenced my own journey into environmental education in the late 1980’s so it was a real privilege of sharing this conversation with him.Show Notes:https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-61-john-seed-podcast/Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors!Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode!Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.
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  • The Sacred Attributes of Connection
    In today’s episode, Marina is exploring the 7 Sacred Attributes – also known as the Attributes of Connection. These teachings, rooted in Lakota tradition and carried into the Deep Nature Connection movement by Jon Young, offer a powerful framework for individual and community healing.In this episode, Marina explores:The 7 attributes and share how they relate to connection and the regeneration of healthy culture.Sacred = Connection.The 7 Sacred Attributes, or Attributes of Connection, originate from the Lakota Woptura lineage. These teachings were preserved and shared by Gilbert Walking Bull, a respected Lakota medicine man and grandson of Moves Camp, a Lakota Sacred Man.Jon Young, a key figure in the Deep Nature Connection movement, integrated these attributes into the 8 Shields model after recognising their profound impact on fostering connection and healing.The attributes serve as a measure of an individual's internal and external relationships, indicating the regeneration of healthy culture. As more individuals embody these qualities, communities become stronger and more resilient.Show Notes:https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/episode-60-sacred-attributes-of-connectionMusic by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.comPlease Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors!Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode!Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.
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  • Deep Nature Connection & The Sacred Attributes with Jon Young
    Today, I have the honour of speaking with Jon Young - a pioneering researcher, mentor, naturalist, wildlife tracker, author, storyteller, and leader in deep nature and people connection.In this episode we discuss:How gratitude supports us to ‘go up the spiral and not down – it elevates us and is dependableJake and Judy swamp – the thanksgiving addressNature connection verses deep nature connectionThe uniqueness of Jon’s work – the 4 key categories of relationships with natureThe generation of the ‘Last child in the woods’ – before and after TelevisionGilbert Walking Bull and the 7 sacred attributesThe power of wilderness & naturalist skillsThe creation of true leadershipTaking your ideal scene to the ancestors and future generations – time is running outDon’t play small (see below the steps)Nature connection in dangerHow our nervous system has the instructions that we need512 Project – 64 cultural elements that generate connection than disconnectionTracking connection Podcast: Living Connection 1stTom Brown’s 7 steps to your Ideal SceneShow Notes:https://theoutdoorteacher.com/podcasts/jon-youngTracking our Roots in Nature - Buy Jon Young's Audio Series for only $27:Music by Geoff Robb: www.geoffrobb.com Please Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you have enjoyed today's episode, please consider rating and reviewing my show! This really helps me to spread the word to more people like you, and to empower more people to take their practice outdoors!Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then let me know what you loved most about the episode!Also, if you haven’t done so already, "follow" the podcast, as if you’re not following, there’s a good chance you’ll miss out.
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About The Wild Minds Podcast

What if wild, not domesticated, should be our normal instead of factory-farmed lives? What if you could cultivate fulfilling lives and contribute to a healthy natural world? The Wild Minds podcast is brought to you by me, Marina Robb, an author, entrepreneur, Forest School and Nature-based Trainer and Consultant, and pioneer in developing Green programmes for the Mental Health service in the UK. I am the founder of https://www.circleofliferediscovery.com (Circle of Life Rediscovery CIC) and https://www.theoutdoorteacher.com (The Outdoor Teacher) and creator of practical online Forest School and nature-based training for people working in mental health, education and business. Tune in for interviews, insights, cutting-edge and actionable approaches to help you to improve your relationship with yourself, others, and the natural world. https://www.geoffrobb.com (Music by Geoff Robb)
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