In this discussion, Joel Webbon, Dale Partridge, and Calvin Robinson argue that many church leaders posture against “safe” past evils while avoiding contemporary “dragons” such as Judaism, feminism, and biological realities of sex and race. They claim the U.S. is both a Christian nation and under God’s judgment, linking national decline to sins like abortion and sodomy, and they advocate measures including denaturalization and deportation, restricting immigration, and even ending women’s suffrage as prerequisites to cultural reversal. The conversation critiques secularism and liberal egalitarianism, disputes “Judeo-Christian” framing, and focuses on dispensationalism as a key theological driver of American support for Israel. *SPONSORS:*VanMan - Get 15% off your order by visiting https://vanman.shop/nxr or using promo code NXRNicNac - Premium nicotine lozenges made in USA - Use code JOEL20! for 20% off at https://www.nicnac.com/discount/joel20!/