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To learn more, please visit Ronnie Stephens' site and view his TEDx Talk
1:50 background of Ronnie’s “legacy journey” as a member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes
3:30 1897 allotment of 240 acres to Stephens' great-grandfather
4:30 Quapaw Tribe’s relocation from Arkansas to Oklahoma 
6:30 McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020)
9:00 issues identified by Tribal Leaders
10:50 Dawes Commission and Burke Act
17:00 management of allotted land
19:25 Emily Gould – question about allotted land 
24:45 Keeping Traditions Alive exhibition
26:20 Killers of the Flower Moon rewritten with input from Osage Nation
27:55 Echo film involved input from Choctaw Nation
30:00 Alan Robertshaw–Prey-film with Native American heroine
31:55 Dark Winds series
33:30 policy shifts needed 
38:30 NAGPRA and its amendments
43:45 education needed for cultural sensitivity 
46:00 BBC Documentary: Rich Hall’s Inventing the Indian
49:20 Lauren Gowler–question about historic US federal laws
55:00 definition of justice 
 
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Here is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers.
Show Notes:
1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43
3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers
5:00 LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency
8:00 antisemitism in the arts  
13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board
13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation 
15:55 Serpentine Gallery's removal of her after 5 years as the lead on its research programme, The Legal Lab
20:00 steps forward to address hypocrisy in the arts sector
20:55 service on Jewish Museum of Australia’s board
21:40 her curation of Chutzpah: Spirit. Recollection. Self.
23:20 Georgian Artist Nina Sanadze's “Call to Peace” Series
27:40 Sanadze’s use of flowers from Bondi Massacre in future sculpture
30:30 Israeli-German Artist Elinor Sahm’s "Ha'layla"
31:30 Simm’s family archive used to show a Jerusalemite-Sepheradic “Hafla” (traditional celebration and gathering)
33:35 Alana's aim to bring back the depth of Jewish culture and history
37:25 Alana’s dream project to highlight the Jewish community's contribution to Australia's culture, especially Jewish women
39:30 education to bring together Jewish and non-Jewish communities
42:50 current relevance of the Holocaust
45:00 Jewish community from former USSR at the Bondi massacre
46:50 moral courage as a form of justice
48:00 legacy to create culture not fear, to emphasize integrity and loyalty 
49:15 her work with Arts Patron and Hospitality Icon Rinaldo Di Stasio 
50:05  Di Stasio’s commission of Artist Sean Gladwell for a moving image work in flagship restaurant, Di Stasio Città 

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Show notes:
1:30 background
3:30 My English Persian Kitchen
5:15 Sheherazade, narrator of One Thousand and One Nights
5:45 My English Persian Kitchen author Atoosa Sepehr’s efforts to address misconceptions about Iranians 
7:30 Reading Lolita in Tehran
9:45 choice of roles that challenge the stereotype about Iranians
10:10 Apple TV series Tehran
12:00 defenders of human rights
14:25 response to Iran’s formal and psychological censorship of creative community
16:45 Artist Soheila Sokhanvari
18:30 Women Life Freedom movement
21:00 global response to human rights’ violations in Iran
23:00 the meaning of justice in terms of accountability 
24:20 future projects
27:25 legacy / mark of her work 
28:55 creative process and connection with other creatives
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multidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross Smith
Show Notes:
2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration
7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues 
9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture
14:30 employing technology with storytelling
20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata
24:40 “art” and “data” as information 
27:50 “human authorship” and copyright 
34:25 bias proliferation with AI
39:40 power of art and media to raise awareness 
44:50 “restorative justice” to mitigate and deter harm so individuals can flourish
54:00 current and future projects, including Got the Power Boomboxes: Sugar Cane and Cotton, Hip Hop 50 Boombox, video game project and collaboration with legal community
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Please visit Steven Gambardella's site here to learn more. 
Show Notes:
1:15 background in the arts
4:00 Dutch philosopher Spinoza’s parallels with Hellenistic philosophies
5:20 Gambardella’s Become As You Are
7:30 “Stoic Kitsch” blog post 
9:00 individual agency and collective action
11:00 crisis of agency
11:20 emergence of stoicism
14:00 four-fold root of virtue
20:10 four facets of autonomy, perspective, objectivity and control and their relation to the four virtues of wisdom, moderation, justice and courage/fearlessness
21:25 Steven's blog 
21:45 Stoic view of justice relates to ignorance
26:00 moralism
27:00 Seneca, tutor and advisor to Roman emperor Nero
32:00 applying ancient Stoic ideas in current day
35:35 Stoicism and Philosophy Reading Group 
38:30 summary of Stoicism: Virtue is the only good; and you have full control over the domain of your soul/your “inner citadel”
40:20 Stoicism at a crossroads 
43:45 his hope to contribute to a revolution of the soul that encourages a view of the world that is more holistic and spiritual
45:40 Question from Susanne van der Meer about the paradox in Stoicism about the responsibility of agency versus a Stoic view of incarceration 
55:00 Stoic view of fear and desire
1:00:00 Comments from Emily Gould
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© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]