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Photography is Nothing

Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken
Photography is Nothing
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  • Documentary Photography is for Everyone

    06/05/2026 | 54 mins.
    Episode 34 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about the importance of documenting our lives. 

    It’s could be easy to dismiss photographing everyday life and the world around us, but it’s an important practice. We learn a lot about the past from ordinary images, maybe even more than we learn from the major events that people might consider “photo worthy.”

    What did people really look like and dress like? How did they interact with each other? What did people do in their daily lives? What do the places where they live and work and interact look like?

    Photographers who document the world are not just making a record of their family, but also providing a view of our society as a whole.

    “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson 

    Index
    0:00 - Intro: These pictures will matter.
    3:12 - Barriers to entry for “documentary photography”
    4:39 - When Zach started documenting everyday life
    12:07 - We underestimate the wider value of photographing our families
    21:36 - We need photos of daily life to know what the past was like
    23:56 - William Eggleston’s photos weren’t well received at the time
    25:24 - How do you do documentary photography
    29:03 - Awesome photo of baseball player Jo Adell taken by a fan
    32:04 - Documentary photography brings the story to a larger audience
    39:16 - Just start taking photos. Don’t worry about making good ones.
    47:25 - The only impact we have on the world is what comes from within us

    Find Zach
    Website: https://zachdobson.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto

    Find Courtney
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_

    About the Podcast
    Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. 

    Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

    Fair Use Statement
    This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
  • Baseball - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    29/04/2026 | 50 mins.
    Episode 33 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about their recent trip to the ballpark and learn about a photographer from the golden age of baseball. 

    Charles M. Conlon photographed baseball between 1904-1941, taking absolutely gorgeous photos of some of the game’s most famous names.

    “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson 

    Index
    0:00 - Intro: Photographers need to share their photos
    0:53 - Going to an Indianapolis Indians baseball game
    6:15 - Photos of being a spectator at the baseball game
    9:04 - One of the greatest baseball photographers: Charles M. Conlon
    12:05 - Photo of Ty Cobb sliding into third base
    17:49 - Portraits from the golden age of baseball by Charles Conlon
    24:25 - Conlon photographs Shoeless Joe Jackson w/ Black Betsy
    26:53 - Cornelius McGillicuddy aka Connie Mack
    28:16 - Rube Waddell
    31:14 - Charles Conlon focused on the people & personalities
    32:48 - Masking photos the old fashioned way
    40:07 - Charles Albert “Chief” Bender
    41:01 - Photographing players’ wives and children
    44:05 - Why Charles Conlon destroyed half of his negatives
    45:51 - Part of being a photographer is sharing your work

    Find Zach
    Website: https://zachdobson.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto

    Find Courtney
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_

    About the Podcast
    Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. 

    Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

    Fair Use Statement
    This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
  • Moab, Utah - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    22/04/2026 | 51 mins.
    Episode 32 - Zach & Courtney talk about one of their favorite trips: Moab, Utah! They visit Arches National Park, Canyonlands National Park, Dead Horse Point State Park, and more!

    Zach used to photograph weddings and that’s how he ended up in Moab 3 years in a row. Courtney & Henry went, too, on the second year. On this episode they discuss their highlights from the trip, which (in addition to the parks, of course) included staying at Whispering Oaks Ranch in the La Sal Mountains.

    Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.

    “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson 

    Index
    0:00 - Intro: Does Google own my photo now??
    3:19 - How we started booking weddings in Moab
    5:46 - Driving to Moab via Denver
    7:55 - Every road in Moab felt like different terrain
    10:18 - Some background on Arches, Canyonlands and Moab
    17:44 - Getting married under Double Arch in Arches National Park
    19:31 - Courtney & Henry visit Moab for the first time with Zach
    24:23 - Favorite breakfast: Jailhouse Cafe
    25:31 - Best fish tacos ever: Miguel’s Baja Grill
    27:30 - Carrying a toddler through the National Parks
    32:16 - It looks like you’re closer to the cliff’s edge than you are
    36:14 - Moab wedding number 2
    39:26 - Visiting Canyonlands National Park
    42:10 - Finding the Petroglyphs
    46:30 - A third wedding in Moab at Whispering Oaks Ranch
    49:17 - A final photo at night on the La Sal Mountains

    Find Zach
    Website: https://zachdobson.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto

    Find Courtney
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_

    About the Podcast
    Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. 

    Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

    Fair Use Statement
    This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
  • Yes, Michigan! - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    15/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    Episode 31 - Zach & Courtney talk about a trip to Hoeft State Park located on the beautiful shores of Lake Huron in Rogers City, Michigan. They stayed in a 1929 Sears Roebuck house just 100 yards from the beach, visited 40 Mile Point Lighthouse and Rogers City Marina, and took in a super early morning sunrise.

    Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.

    “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson 

    Index
    0:00 - Intro: Adventures lead to personal growth
    0:55 - Visiting Lake Huron in Michigan
    2:32 - How to find an amazing cabin in Michigan
    10:55 - Courtney loves the Edmund Fitzgerald
    15:03 - All about the cabin at Hoeft State Park
    18:20 - Kids don’t care if the water is cold
    22:57 - Visiting Rogers City and the Marina
    24:10 - Zach’s favorite photo at the marina
    26:26 - Going fishing inland Michigan
    28:06 - Packing food for a whole trip
    29:30 - Why it’s important for families to have adventures
    31:36 - Our teen insisted on seeing the sunrise over Lake Huron
    33:50 - Visiting the 40 Mile Point Lighthouse
    40:27 - Telling a story in a photo
    41:10 - Taking a family photo during our adventures

    Find Zach
    Website: https://zachdobson.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto

    Find Courtney
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_

    About the Podcast
    Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. 

    Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

    Fair Use Statement
    This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.
  • Florida Keys Road Trip - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    08/04/2026 | 39 mins.
    Episode 30 - Zach & Courtney talk about a favorite family trip: A roadtrip through the Florida Keys! In 2018, Courtney, Zach, and (then) 4 kids, drove nearly 3,000 miles from Indianapolis, IN to Key West, FL (and back, of course).

    On this episode we talk about the experience, including our favorite spots, things we learned, and the photos Zach took along the way.

    “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson 

    Index
    0:00 - Intro - He stitched two mattresses together to make a giant bed
    0:49 - Going on a Florida Keys Roadtrip
    1:44 - Planning to escape the Midwest in winter
    3:44 - Racing to beat a snow storm
    7:03 - Driving into the Keys from Miami is supposed to be quick
    8:48 - Are the Florida Keys kid-friendly?
    10:25 - There are very few natural beaches in the Keys
    11:10 - Plan to stay in motels in the Florida Keys
    15:18 - Zach had never seen water this color
    15:44 - Visiting Key West as a family
    24:10 - Ernest Hemingway’s house in Key West
    25:28 - Kids are learning their own way
    28:12 - Easter Mass in Key West
    29:29 - Southernmost Point of the Continental US
    30:13 - Bahia Honda State Park
    31:03 - Marathon and Islamorada
    33:15 - The story behind my favorite Florida Keys photo
    35:15 - John Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park
    38:04 - We need a bigger car than a Chevy Suburban

    Find Zach
    Website: https://zachdobson.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto

    Find Courtney
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons
    Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_

    About the Podcast
    Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. 

    Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

    Fair Use Statement
    This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

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About Photography is Nothing

Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. “Photography is nothing—it’s life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson
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