You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

What can 20 years of working in family law teach you about marriage, divorce and what makes a relationship last?
In Part Two of Georgie McCourt's conversation with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket, Fidan gets candid about her “Don’t worry about it” philosophy, dealing with trolls, her decision to have a breast reduction and everything her career has taught her about relationships.
Fidan reveals what ultimately led her to have a breast reduction after years of people commenting on her body, and how the procedure changed her life after she began experiencing chronic back pain.
As a family lawyer, Fidan has spent more than two decades watching relationships break down. She shares what she believes are some of the most common reasons marriages end, from communication problems and falling out of love to couples gradually living separate lives. She also talks about what she's learnt from those experiences and how she applies them to her own relationship.
Fidan and Georgie also get into the world of prenups, or binding financial agreements, including when Fidan believes they can make sense, why they can be complicated, and the importance of getting good legal advice before signing one.
And, of course, there's food. Fidan gives Georgie a glimpse into her latest cookbook project and explains why salads, platters and finding joy in the everyday have become such a big part of her online world.
This episode covers:
Fidan's “Don't worry about it” philosophy
Dealing with trolls and criticism online
Why she eventually decided to have a breast reduction
The back pain that led to the decision
What 20 years in family law has taught her about relationships
The common reasons marriages break down
Communication, compromise and making an effort in a relationship
Why couples need to maintain their own interests
Fidan's views on prenups and financial protection
What women should consider before signing a settlement
Her advice for anyone feeling worn down during a divorce
Her approach to intimidation and confidence
Her latest cookbook project
Finding joy in the everyday
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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One day family lawyer Fidan Shevket decided to make a salad on TikTok, and it ended up with more than 15.2 million views.
In this two-part conversation, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket to talk about her extraordinary career, surviving cancer as a teenager, motherhood and the unexpected journey that turned her into one of Australia's most recognisable social media personalities.
She takes us back to the beginning, from surviving cancer as a teenager to building a career in family law and navigating IVF, miscarriage and the premature birth of her twins at just 26 weeks. She opens up about the experiences that have shaped her outlook on life, motherhood and her determination to make the most of every day.
Fidan also shares how she went from making videos about family law to building a following of more than 1.4 million people on TikTok. She talks about the viral salads, Saturday platters and everyday moments that have made her so beloved online, and explains the thinking behind her now-famous philosophy: “Don’t worry about it.”
Part two continues the conversation with Fidan on breast reduction, trolls, marriage and divorce, what two decades of working in family law have taught her about relationships, prenups and her exciting new cookbook project.
This episode covers:
How Fidan went from family lawyer to TikTok sensation
The unexpected story behind her 1.4 million followers
The viral salad that changed everything
Why Saturday platters became part of her online identity
Surviving cancer as a teenager
Discovering years later that she had a rare form of cancer
How her parents protected her from the reality of her diagnosis
Starting IVF in her late 30s
Miscarriage and the emotional reality of trying to conceive
The premature birth of her twins at 26 weeks
Life in the NICU and becoming a mother under extraordinary circumstances
Breastfeeding, formula and the pressure placed on new mothers
Finding resilience through some of life's most difficult moments
Why Fidan believes in squeezing the day and finding joy in the everyday
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/
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What happens when the person you loved, the person you trusted with your future, wasn’t who they said they were?
Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with author, advocate and marketing executive Tracy Hall, whose extraordinary story became known through the hit investigative podcast Who the Hell Is Hamish? Tracy was Hamish McLaren’s final known victim, after an 18-month relationship, she discovered that the man she knew as Max Tavita was in fact one of Australia’s most notorious con men. He had stolen $317,000 of her life savings.
Now, years after her story first captivated listeners, Tracy joins Georgie to tell the story in her own words. From falling in love with a man who appeared to share her values and ambitions, to discovering that almost everything she knew about him was a lie.
Tracy takes us inside the sophisticated manipulation that kept her from seeing what was happening, including the slow-building relationship, the carefully manufactured similarities, future promises and conversations about money that ultimately led to her investing her savings. She explains why romance scams aren’t about intelligence or naivety, why anyone can be vulnerable to manipulation, and why the shame should belong with the perpetrator, not the victim.
She also talks about The Last Victim, her memoir about the experience, and the work she is now doing to advocate for safer online dating, financial empowerment and a different way of talking about victims of scams. She explains why she believes dating apps need stronger identity verification, what happened when she discovered Hamish had appeared on a dating app again, and why she wants better safeguards in place before her own daughter enters the world of online dating.
And in one of the most timely parts of the conversation, Tracy explores the next generation of deception, AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning and why “trust literacy” may become as important as financial and digital literacy.
This episode covers:
Tracy Hall’s role as Hamish McLaren’s last known victim
Her story as featured in Who the Hell Is Hamish?
Meeting Hamish, who she knew as Max Tavita, on a dating app
How an 18-month relationship was carefully constructed
The manipulation tactics and warning signs she missed
How $317,000 of her savings was stolen
Why intelligent, successful people can become victims of romance scams
The psychological impact of intimate fraud and betrayal
Rebuilding her confidence, identity and ability to trust
Becoming financially empowered after the scam
Writing The Last Victim
Victim blaming and the language we use around scams
Why dating apps need stronger safety measures
Hamish McLaren appearing on a dating app after his release
Dating again and learning to trust herself
“Trust literacy” and navigating deception in the digital age. AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning
Why shame belongs with the perpetrator, not the victim
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media.
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What if being “nice” isn’t the same as being kind? And what happens when women stop making themselves smaller to keep everyone else comfortable?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by political journalist, author and cultural commentator Amy Remeikis to unpack women, power, anger, civility and the pressure to be “good”.
The author of Screw Nice, Amy explores why women are often judged for being direct, angry or emotional, while the same behaviour can be interpreted very differently in men. She discusses the double standards behind labels like “difficult”, the expectation that women make themselves smaller, and why refusing to be compliant can be an act of power.
Amy also shares her own experiences of learning to speak up, including a childhood moment that made her question why the way a woman responds to injustice can become more important than the injustice itself. She explains how she approaches uncomfortable conversations with people whose political views differ from her own, and why asking “why?” can be more productive than immediately shutting down a difficult conversation.
Plus, Amy shares her advice for dealing with being called “emotional”, “hysterical” or “difficult”, why women should stop apologising unless they have actually done something wrong, and how walking away from an argument can sometimes be the most empowering response.
This episode covers:
The politics of being “nice”
Why women are labelled “difficult”
Anger, protest and speaking up
Grace Tame and the policing of women’s behaviour
Double standards for women in leadership
Political disagreement and finding common ground
Gaslighting and emotional dismissal
Why women need to stop apologising for everything
Taking up space and using your power
The difference between being nice and being decent
You can find Amy's book Screw Nice here https://www.hachette.com.au/amy-remeikis/screw-nice
Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media.
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Anine Bing has spent more than a decade building the kind of fashion empire most entrepreneurs dream of, launching ANINE BING from a Los Angeles garage and turning her signature blend of Scandinavian simplicity and LA cool into a global brand. But now, the designer, entrepreneur and creative is asking a different question: what success actually look like when it feels like it’s time to start again?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Anine for a deeply personal conversation about awakening, ambition, burnout, divorce, motherhood, creativity and the journey of finding her way back to herself.
At 43, Anine found herself questioning whether she was truly living her truth or feeling fulfilled. After years of building her global fashion brand while raising her children, she realised she had been so busy “building, building, building” that she hadn’t had time to sit with herself and understand how she really felt. What followed was a period of deep inner work, major personal change and, ultimately, a new sense of freedom.
Anine also talks candidly about divorce, starting again in her 40s and the unexpected happiness she found on the other side. From creating a new home on her own terms to discovering that she is genuinely happy being alone, Anine reflects on what freedom means to her now and why she feels she has finally come back to herself.
The conversation also explores the evolution of ANINE BING, from packing orders on the garage floor while pregnant to building a global fashion business, and the importance of staying in your own lane rather than getting distracted by what everyone else is doing. She shares her philosophy on personal style, buying less but better, and why the right clothes can change how you feel about yourself.
Plus, Anine opens up about music as a form of healing, her album Chapter Two, motherhood, raising teenagers, finding her voice and why she now feels an obligation to share her experiences if they might help another woman.
This episode covers:
Anine Bing on her awakening in her 40s
Finding your way back to yourself
The hidden reality of burnout and ambition
Balancing motherhood and building a global business
Learning to prioritise yourself
Divorce and finding happiness on the other side
Starting a new chapter on your own terms
The freedom of being alone
Staying in your own lane
Building a successful fashion brand
Buying less and better and finding your personal uniform
Fashion, confidence and how clothes make us feel
Music as therapy and healing and Anine’s new album, Chapter Two
Motherhood and raising teenagers
Being comfortable in your own skin
The power of starting over
Why you shouldn’t give up
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
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With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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