You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

In this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with writer and author Belle Burden for a conversation about love, loss - and what happens when your life changes overnight.
During the early days of Covid lockdown, Belle believed she was safe inside a happy, 20-year marriage. Then, within 24 hours, everything changed. A phone call from a stranger revealed her husband was having an affair. By the next morning, he had packed a bag, told her he wanted a divorce, and left. There was no warning. Just what he later described as “a switch” that had flipped.
In this raw and deeply honest conversation, Belle takes us inside that moment - and the aftermath that followed. From the shock of abandonment and the physical reality of heartbreak, to the patterns many women are now recognising in their own lives, this episode explores what it means to lose not just a partner, but the life you thought you were living.
Belle also speaks candidly about the financial lessons she learned, the expectations placed on women to stay quiet, and how writing her memoir Strangers became a way of reclaiming her voice.This is a conversation about devastation, but also about rebuilding. About identity. About resilience. And about the possibility that, even in the wake of something unimaginable, a new life can take shape.
In this episode, we cover:
The moment Belle’s marriage ended - and what happened the night before
The psychology of sudden abandonment and “runaway husbands”
The physical and emotional impact of shock and heartbreak
Why so many women are recognising themselves in this story
The financial blind spots that can leave women vulnerable in long marriages
Co-parenting, emotional detachment, and navigating life after divorce
Rebuilding identity - and finding yourself again after everything changes
About Belle: Belle Burden is a writer and former lawyer. Her Modern Love essay for The New York Times was one of the most widely read columns of the year. Her memoir, Strangers, expands on that story - exploring marriage, betrayal, and the process of rebuilding a life from the ground up.
A note to listeners:This episode discusses themes of infidelity, divorce, and emotional distress. Please listen with care.
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What does it feel like to grow up knowing you don’t quite fit the system around you?
In this powerful episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, actors and advocates Georgie
Stone and Chloe Hayden sit down for an honest conversation about identity, difference and
the long journey to understanding yourself.
Both women know what it’s like to move through the world feeling “other.” For Stone, that
meant knowing she was a girl from a very young age, long before she had the language to
describe being transgender. For Hayden, it meant growing up autistic in a world that often
misunderstood - or outright misrepresented - neurodivergent people.
Together, they unpack what it means to finally find the words that explain your experience,
the labels that hurt and the ones that can help you understand yourself. They talk about
school, bullying, media representation, and how seeing characters who look like you - or
think like you - can change the trajectory of a young person’s life.
The conversation also explores the power and pressure of representation. Stone made history
as the first transgender actor to play a trans character in an Australian drama when she joined
Neighbours, while Hayden’s portrayal of Quinny in Heartbreak High has become a lifeline
for autistic viewers around the world.
Warm, funny and deeply thoughtful, this episode is about the courage it takes to be visible -
and the radical power of simply existing as yourself.
In this episode:
Georgie Stone on knowing she was a girl from the age of two
Chloe Hayden on growing up autistic and finally receiving a diagnosis
Why labels can be empowering rather than limiting
The impact of growing up without representation in media
The characters that helped shape their identities (hello, Disney)
Playing groundbreaking roles in Neighbours and Heartbreak High
The pressure of representing entire communities
Why simply existing proudly can be an act of protest
The message they wish every young person could hear
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In this powerful and deeply personal episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, marie
claire editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Danielle Bensky - a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein’s
trafficking network - about grooming, silence, survival and the long road to reclaiming your
voice.
Before the headlines and court cases, Bensky was a 17-year-old ballerina in New York with
dreams of a career in dance. In this conversation, she reflects on how the intense culture of
ballet - with its pressure for perfection, body scrutiny and constant need for approval - created
vulnerabilities that Epstein later exploited.
Bensky shares how she was first introduced to Epstein while searching for ways to earn
money as a teenager, and how what began with conversation and flattery slowly became
manipulation, coercion and abuse. She also speaks candidly about the moment her mother’s
brain tumour diagnosis deepened Epstein’s control over her life.
But this episode is not only about what happened inside Epstein’s world. It’s also about what
came after: the years of silence, the trauma and dissociation that followed, and the healing
power of creativity, community and finally speaking the truth.
Today, Bensky is an advocate for survivors and accountability. In this moving conversation,
she explains why telling the story matters - not only for justice, but for the countless
survivors who still feel too ashamed or frightened to speak.
Her message is simple but powerful: you are not alone.
In this episode we discuss:
Danielle Bensky’s life as a teenage ballerina in New York
How grooming and manipulation often begin with trust and promises
The culture of vulnerability within the dance world
The moment Epstein used her mother’s illness as leverage
Why so many people around Epstein remained silent
Trauma, dissociation and the long path to healing
How art and movement helped Bensky reconnect with her body
The power of survivor communities Why speaking out can help break cycles of shame and silence
A note to listeners:
This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse, trafficking and trauma. Listener discretion
is advised.
Resources:
If this conversation raises difficult feelings for you, support is available.
1800RESPECT - 1800 737 732
Lifeline - 13 11 14

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Now before 2014, today’s guest, Dr Lucy Hone, was a resilience psychologist studying how people cope with stress, uncertainty and change. She was immersed in the science of flourishing, working with schools, organisations and emergency response teams – and basically, helping others navigate unwanted disruption.
And then, on a bright morning in May 2014, her twelve-year-old daughter Abi was killed in a road accident. As a mother of an almost 12 year old daughter (and a 13 year old daughter), this feels excruciatingly heartbreaking to me. How do you actually get over something so unimaginably tragic? I honestly can’t imagine I ever could.
In an instant, everything Lucy understood about resilience stopped being theoretical. She needed to find a way to live with what she describes as “the difference between where your life is, and where you thought it would be.”
That experience reshaped her life - and her work.
Today, Lucy is an internationally recognised resilience expert, bestselling author and the voice behind one of the most watched TED Talks of recent years, Three Secrets of Resilient People. Her new book 'How Will I Ever Get Through This?' has just been published.
Lucy's message remains grounded and human: tough times are affected times are part of life - and with the right tools, we can all find our way through. Yes, we really can.
In this episode, we talk about the myths of grief - including why the five stages don’t tell the whole story. We unpack why grief can be so physically exhausting. We explore intrusive rumination, post-traumatic growth, and bravery that looks like simply getting up and showing up again the next day.
This is a conversation about loss. But it’s also a conversation about love, meaning and choosing life, even when it feels unbearable.
We talk about:
Why most people are more resilient than they think
The concept of oscillation - how you can live and grieve at the same time
The difference between toxic positivity and pragmatic hope
Post-traumatic growth (and why 60% of people experience it)
The quiet bravery of getting up again tomorrow
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This week on You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with Australia’s iconic Governor-General, Sam Mostyn, for a deeply personal conversation about power, purpose and the formula for a happy life. When the Prime Minister called to ask whether she would accept the role, Mostyn had just 24 hours to decide - and couldn’t tell anyone. It was her daughter who cut through the noise with one simple question: Will it make you happy? In this episode, Sam opens up about:
Why so many women assume they won’t get the job - even when they’re more than qualified
The difference between determination and confidence
The early days of her legal career in Melbourne - including being told she couldn’t wear trousers to court
The equal pay arguments that shaped her leadership style
How to have difficult conversations without anger
Why “yes, and” can change the way you lead
The misogyny that still follows women in public life
Why care, kindness and listening are not soft skills - but strengths
And what happiness actually means when you’re holding one of the highest offices in the land
From corporate boardrooms to national tragedy, from equal pay battles to representing Australia overseas, Mostyn reflects on what it takes to stay in the room and have hard conversations. This isn’t a political interview. It’s a conversation about service, resilience, partnership, ambition and the courage it takes to say yes before you feel ready. Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.
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