ChangeMakers

Gary Gerstle is one of the most important historians of twentieth century America. He developed the concept of a "political order" to define longer stretches of political consensus that retain beliefs, approaches and methods for government behind the whims of elections.

In this conversation, recorded with the support of the UCL Policy Lab and in front of a live audience of policy fellows, we talk about the transitions between the Real Deal and neoliberalism and what they might mean for the emerging political order we are now entering - that has certainly begun but is not yet formed.

This is an important conversation for putting the hasty hot-takes of social media pundits in perspective - and learning from history.

Gary will be visiting Sydney in October, speaking at an event with the UTS Democracy Forum on Wednesday 14th October at the University of Technology Sydney. You can get tickets here:

https://events.humanitix.com/uts-democracy-forum-with-gary-gerstle

Photo credit Jørn Tomter.

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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - here
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall

Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amandatattersall/
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
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TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
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In August, ChangeMakers Podcast host Amanda Tattersall released a new book called Conscious Tribes: Thinking Differently about Making a Difference. It is available in Australia and New Zealand in physical and audio formats.

On 12 August it was launched at Gleebooks with an interview by Craig Reucassel (ABC Breakfast, Chaser, War on Waste).

This episode is a recording of that conversation.

For more about the book and how to order it - https://conscioustribes.net/

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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Her latest book Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference, and her book with Kurt Iveson - People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press.
Amanda’s website is here https://amandatattersall.com/ - on Medium and Substack
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press

Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amandatattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall

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Jennifer Robinson has spent her career working at the intersection of law, power and social change.

An Australian barrister based in the UK, Jennifer is a leading media and human rights lawyer. She represented Amber Heard in Johnny Depp’s UK defamation case against The Sun, acted for Julian Assange for 14 years, and has become a prominent advocate for women confronting violence, abuse and legal systems that too often silence them. She is the co-author of How Many More Women? and features in the documentary Silenced.

In November 2026, she will receive the Sydney Peace Prize in recognition of her work.

In this ChangeMaker Chat, Jennifer talks about the experiences that drew her to the law and shaped her approach to movement lawyering: working in the law not simply to win individual cases, but as part of a broader effort to change systems and shift power. She explores what #MeToo revealed about the failures of legal systems, including the ways defamation and other laws can be used by powerful people to silence women and journalists.

This is a conversation about what it takes to make a difference when the systems you are trying to change are powerful, entrenched and often stacked against you. Jennifer reflects on the role of law, but also on its limits — and on why lasting change depends on people organising, building movements and working together to shift what is possible.

You can find out more about the Sydney Peace Prize and how to get tickets to be part of the ceremony with Jennifer in November:
https://sydneypeacefoundation.org.au/sydney-peace-prize-gala-dinner-2/

For more information about Silenced and where you can go and see the documentary see:
https://www.silenced-film.com/where-to-watch

You can find out about How many more women - now in its full uncensored version:
https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Jennifer-Robinson-and-Keio-Yoshida-How-Many-More-Women-9781761471797

Several people mentioned in this episode have previously been on ChangeMakers, and you can listen to their episodes here:
Chanel Contos
Grace Tame

Photo credit: Mark Rogers

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For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Her latest book Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference, and her book with Kurt Iveson - People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press.
Amanda’s website is here https://amandatattersall.com/ - on Medium and Substack
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press

Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall

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Last week in Hong Kong, long time democracy advocates - including Lee Cheuk-yan and Chow Hang-tung - were found guilty of inciting subversion. Along with hundreds of others who were part of the 2019 protests against the Extradition Bill, they have been in jail for many years, imprisoned under the Chinese National Security Law.

Samuel leads a discussion to try and digest what their sentencing means to him, as someone that has not only been inspired by both of these leaders, but has had a long close relationship with Lee Cheuk-yan since he was a child.

In the conversation w explore what their experience might teach us about the qualities that shape why we try to make a difference.

We look at a new book - On Courage by Julia Angwin and Ami Fields-Meyer - and debate its claim that to make a difference requires personal acts of courage and bravery.

In reflecting on Lee and Chow's experience we countenance a different way to look at the qualities we might need to make a difference. We explore whether courage is perhaps best seen as something gathered with others rather than simply a personal quality. Rather than the idea that we need more courage - perhaps we need stronger and better organisations that can help nurture our sense of power and courage together.

The article in the Guardian about Chow Hang-tung is here.

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For more about Samuel:
Personal site: https://www.samuelmchu.com
The Campaign for Hong Kong: https://www.thecampaignforhongkong.org
Democracy in Flight: https://www.democracyinflight.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuelmchu
Twitter/X: https://x.com/samuelmchu
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/samuelmchu
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samuelmchu

For more about Amanda:
Personal site: https://amandatattersall.com/
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall

Her new books are called People Power in Cities & Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference.

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In public life, we know that people see the world differently — through different opinions, attitudes, beliefs and experiences. But what happens when we become better at embracing those different perspectives? Can changing how we see also change how we make a difference?

Alina Gozin'a is one of Australia's most celebrated photographers, having photographed some of Australia's and the world's most powerful people, like Scott Farquhar, Andrew Forrest, Frank Lowy, Kevin Rudd, Christine Lagarde, and Sam Mostyn.

But her path into photography was anything but conventional. After immigrating from the Soviet Union to Australia, she began her career as a tax adviser at PwC before becoming a renowned photographer, visual storyteller, strategist and advocate for creativity.

In this Chat, Alina explores how that unusual journey has shaped the way she sees — and her ability to move between disciplines, perspectives and worlds. She takes us inside the practice of photography: what it means to really look, to notice what others miss, and to see the same person or situation from different angles.

Together, we explore what those practices might teach us about public life and making a difference.

It’s a conversation that crosses disciplines and experiences, showing how even small shifts in how we see can have a big impact on how we understand the world — and how we work with others.

You can see more about Alina Gonzin'a's work here on her website.

You can follow her art in real time on her instagram page.

You can read her TEDx talk about Creativity here.

Her photo shoot with Christine LaGarde is here.

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For more on ChangeMakers check us out:
Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org (where you can also sign up to our email list!)
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Threads: https://www.threads.com/@changemakerspodcast
Blue Sky: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall.bsky.social

For more on the books and Amanda’s writing, have a look at:
Amanda’s website - https://amandatattersall.com/
Conscious Tribes: thinking differently about making a difference - https://conscioustribes.net/
People Power in Cities - here and via Oxford Uni Press
On Substack - https://substack.com/@amandatattersall
On Medium - https://amandatatts.medium.com/
And - her much earlier book about coalition building - Power in Coalition and via Cornell Uni Press

Amanda is on Socials here:
On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandatattersall/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.tattersall
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amandatattersall.bsky.social
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@amandatattersall
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.tattersall
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.