We've a pair of interviews this month on animal behaviour and management. Professor Elissa Cameron (Ngāi Tahu, Ōtākou) discusses a career that's taken her from Kaimanawa to Kenya, researching behaviour in animals including giraffes, quokkas, and Tasmanian devils. Then Professor James Ross talks about possums and rats, the mahi of Predator Free 2050, and his numerous projects in the field of pest management.