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Law at the End of the World

Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark
Law at the End of the World
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    Fighting for Free Flowing Rivers in Patagonia (Episode 17 with Pía Weber Salazar)

    26/02/2026 | 1h 50 mins.
    In this episode we are joined by lawyer and activist Pía Weber Salazar who discusses her collective work securing legal protections for free flowing rivers in Chile. Pía explains how communities and activist coalitions are working together to protect entire river systems. This work focuses on the implementation of water flow reserves in the Futalefú and Puelo Rivers in Chilean Patagonia, where almost all of the rivers' flow is now protected, despite fierce competition from extractive industries and fragmented regulations. Pía emphasises how legal, community, academic and advocacy efforts can come together to secure better futures for rivers and related communities, and identifies the challenges that lie ahead.  As always, Cristy and Liz round off with recent developments in environmental law, including new developments in climate litigation from Europe, Australia and Aotearoa, the ongoing legal battle against nitrate polution in Canterbury, and large-scale resource management reforms underway in Aotearoa. 
    Futaleufú and Puelo Become Chile’s First Protected Rivers
    Towards a Holistic Environmental Flow Regime in Chile
    Towards durable legal protections for rivers in Chile
    Evolving rights to (and of) water in Chile
    No more ministry for the Environment
    Assessment framework for carbon removals
    Changes to National Direction under the RMA
    MACA litigation
    Freshwater litigation in Canterbury
    ELI v ECan
    Climate Clinic Aotearoa v Minister of Ene
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    Rights and Resilience in Pacific Climate Advocacy - Episode 16 (with Keakaokawai Varner Hemi, Sereana Naepi, Julia Dehm and Cristy Clark)

    18/02/2026 | 1h 56 mins.
    In this episode, Cristy and Liz share Part Two of their LSAANZ Conference special on Rights and Resilience.  The episode brings highlights from the December 2025 Law and Society Association of Australia and New Zealand Conference, held in Ōtautahi Chirstchurch. The theme of the Conference was Rights, Relationality, Resilience, Reciprocity, and this episode focuses on sharing insights and advances from days two and three of the Conference - including book launches, Conference dinner, and Conference closing. The core hilight of the episode is a recording from the second keynote panel presentation on Rights and Resilience with Dr Keakaokawai Varner Hemi (U Waikato), Associate Professor and Rutherford Discovery Fellow Sereana Naepi (U Auckland), and Associate Professor Julia Dehm (La Trobe) beautifully curated by Cristy. This panel centres and champions the leadership of young Pacific leaders taking climate change to the highest court on the planet, and challenges all of us working in universities to make them places deserving of Māori and Pacific scholars, students, and communities. The episode is the second of two episodes bringing Conference highlights, and focuses on the Conference themes of Rights and Resilience, with particular focus on these concepts in the context of climate change, Pacific peoples, and education.
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    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
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    Relationality and Reciprocity in River Governance - Episode 15 (with Gerrard Albert, Anne Poelina and Erin O'Donnell)

    30/01/2026 | 1h 30 mins.
    In this episode, Cristy and Liz share Part One of their LSAANZ Conference special on Relationality and Reciprocity.  The episode brings highlights from the December 2025 Law and Society Association of Australia and New Zealand Conference, held in Ōtautahi Chirstchurch. The theme of the conference was Rights, Relationality, Resilience, Reciprocity, and this episode focuses on sharing insights and advances from day one of the conference - including the early career workshop, conference opening, reception, and book prizes. The core hilight of the episode is a recording from the first keynote panel presentation on Relationality and Reciprocity with Māori leader Gerrard Albert (Whanganui Iwi), First Nations leader, scholar, activist and artist Professor Anne Poelina (University of Notre Dame and Martuwarra River Council), beautifully curated by Associate Professor Erin O'Donnell (University of Melbourne, Birrarung Council). The episode is the first of two episodes bringing Conference highlights, and focuses on the Conference themes of Relationality and Reciprocity, with particular focus on these concepts in the context of water governance, climate change, and Indigenous sovereignty.
    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here
    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.
    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
    LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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    Making a Difference through More-than-Human Rights - Episode 14 (with César Rodríguez-Garavito)

    20/11/2025 | 2h 9 mins.
    In this conversation, César Rodríguez-Garavito (NYU Law) reflects on his fascinating academic career, explaining his drive to produce 'action research' that enables a positive impact for communities and the environment. He reflects on the balance between academic commitments and advocacy work (especially for Indigenous communities), the critical importance of distributed teams of collaborators, and his innovative approach to using art and multimedia to attract attention to an important cause. The discussion also covers the origins and evolution of the More-than-Human Life programme he leads at NYU, his hacks for personal career management, and advice for early career researchers seeking to make meaningful contributions beyond academia. Cristy and Liz round off with their environmental law updates, including international and transnational developments around climate change, river rights and the rights of nature, changes to fast track and climate legislation in Aotearoa New Zealand and environmental legislation in Australia, and the latest environmental case law developments from around the globe.
    César Rodríguez-Garavito
    Moth - More Than Human Life
    Amphibious research
    The Earth Rights Research & Action (TERRA NYU Law) - Center for Human Rights and Global Justice
    The Thesis Whisperer
    Ecuador’s Voters Protect Rights of Nature, Reject Proposal to Rewrite Constitution
    Preservación ecosistémica: Por primera vez MOP declara reservas de aguas en cuencas de ríos Futaleufú y Puelo
    Lady Tureiti Moxon’s human rights complaint accepted by the United Nations
    New Zealand awarded dubious 'Fossil of the Day' at COP30 climate talks
    Key-concerns-with-the-Fast-track-Approvals-Amendment-Bill.pdf 
    EXPLAINER: Changes announced to the Climate Change Response Act 2002 

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    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.
    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
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    Research Skills Series: Getting and managing grants - Episode 13 (with Elizabeth Macpherson)

    24/10/2025 | 1h 25 mins.
    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, we kick off our new ‘Research Skills Series’. In this first installment, Liz shares her extensive experience of obtaining and administering research funding in a practical, skills-focused discussion. She covers her grant history (successes and failures), key lessons about writing successful applications, common misconceptions, and the realities of managing and delivering grant-funded projects. Liz emphasises the importance of building relationships, writing for interdisciplinary audiences, and the significant administrative work involved in running grants. Cristy and Liz also discuss major environmental law developments including New Zealand's controversial marine and coastal legislation, Australia's upcoming EPBC amendments, climate litigation from Bonaire, and new research challenging the effectiveness of carbon offsets.
    Marine law change angers Māori activist: 'We don't have any rights'
    New marine protections in the Hauraki Gulf
    Environmental Law Initiative v EPA
    Government almost halves methane reduction target, farmers celebrate
    Major changes to climate-related disclosures announced
    Our Marine Environment 2025
    Big shakeup for NZ's research funding
    A/80/117: Report of the Special Rapporteur on the human rights to safe drinking water and sanitation 
    Webinar - Capacity Building on developing Amicus Curiae for the African Court's Advisory Opinion...
    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here
    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.
    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
    LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    Our websites - Liz & Cristy

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About Law at the End of the World

In this podcast, coming to you from the end of the world, Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark share developments and insights about how law is being used to support outcomes for the environment and those who depend on it - i.e. everyone.
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