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Law at the End of the World

Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark
Law at the End of the World
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  • Law at the End of the World

    What everyone gets wrong about the rights of nature - Episode 19 (with Erin O'Donnell)

    21/05/2026 | 1h 33 mins.
    In this episode, Associate Professor Erin O'Donnell (U Melbourne) joins us as a guest co-host to chat with us about the perils, pitfalls, and promise of researching in the burgeoning field of rights of nature. We discuss the top methodological challenges inherent in doing research about the rights of nature and legal personhood, and provide our thoughts about how to do this sort of work ethically and in a way that contributes to the scholarly field, the community, and nature itself.
    As always, we round off with our updates about developments in environmental law including cases, legislation, and policy changes. Highlights include international pressure to implement the ICJ Advisory Opinion on climate change, climate litigation in Australia, and fisheries and conservation reforms and government interference with climate litigation in Aotearoa New Zealand.
    People, Place and Nature in Indigenous-Settler Relations
    Doing research about relational water governance… relationally: Critical methodological reflections about legal research on river personhood
    UN experts urge states to support General Assembly resolution operationalising 
    ICJ Advisory Opinion on climate obligations
    Climate Change in the High Court of Australia
    Statutory Consultation open: Environmental Offsets Standard
    River Thames in London gets first official bathing spot on Friday
    3rd Global Citizenship Education Hub
    Missed opportunities in the Fisheries Amendment Bill
    The quiet but major shift slipped in among the conservation law reforms
    New plans to encourage private investment in nature
    Climate law changes have 'clearly struck a nerve'
    MERCURY NZ LIMITED v MĀORI LAND COURT 2026-NZCA-91.pdf 
    Ours Not Mines Limited v Hauraki District Council [2026] NZCA 138 
    Recommendations-for-ethical-engagement-of-IKS-within-the-IPCC
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    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. 
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    Blue carbon - harnessing the power of the ocean for climate and justice - Episode 18 (with Elizabeth Macpherson)

    17/04/2026 | 1h 22 mins.
    In this episode, Cristy interviews Liz about her Blue Carbon Futures research program. While it’s been claimed that blue carbon ecosystems can sequester up to 10 times more carbon than terrestrial forests, the legal frameworks needed to protect and restore them are fragmented, contested, and in many cases, underdeveloped. Liz unpacks how ownership disputes, traditional land law boundaries, and colonial legacies create hurdles for Indigenous communities trying to restore and finance these vital wetlands.
    Priority questions for the next decade of blue carbon science
    Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu and Minister of Conservation 2026
    High Court pauses Ngāi Tahu challenge to Conservation reforms
    Smiler v Attorney-General [2026] NZHC 375
    Our Freshwater 2026 Tō Tātou Wai Māori 
    Australasian Centre for Corporate Responsibility v. Santos Ltd 
    UniSuper referred to ASIC over alleged greenwashing
    ACF adds new ground to North West Shelf case 
    MACH Energy Australia v DAMSHEG & Anor
    NT's McArthur River Mine
    The Future of Freshwater 
    3nd Global Citizenship Education Hub
    Transforming food systems through human rights
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    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. 
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
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    Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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    Fighting for Free Flowing Rivers in Patagonia - Episode 17 (with Pía Weber Salazar)

    26/02/2026 | 1h 50 mins.
    In this episode we are joined by lawyer and activist Pía Weber Salazar who discusses her collective work securing legal protections for free flowing rivers in Chile. Pía explains how communities and activist coalitions are working together to protect entire river systems. This work focuses on the implementation of water flow reserves in the Futalefú and Puelo Rivers in Chilean Patagonia, where almost all of the rivers' flow is now protected, despite fierce competition from extractive industries and fragmented regulations. Pía emphasises how legal, community, academic and advocacy efforts can come together to secure better futures for rivers and related communities, and identifies the challenges that lie ahead.  As always, Cristy and Liz round off with recent developments in environmental law, including new developments in climate litigation from Europe, Australia and Aotearoa, the ongoing legal battle against nitrate polution in Canterbury, and large-scale resource management reforms underway in Aotearoa. 
    Futaleufú and Puelo Become Chile’s First Protected Rivers
    Towards a Holistic Environmental Flow Regime in Chile
    Towards durable legal protections for rivers in Chile
    Evolving rights to (and of) water in Chile
    No more ministry for the Environment
    Assessment framework for carbon removals
    Changes to National Direction under the RMA
    MACA litigation
    Freshwater litigation in Canterbury
    ELI v ECan
    Climate Clinic Aotearoa v Minister of Energy and Resources
    Oxford Water Network 
    Talking about Methods | Frontiers of Sociolegal Studies
    WATER SHELF PODCAST: "Legal Geographies of Water" by Cristy Clark
    Asmania et al. vs Holcim - ECCHR: Rising sea levels: An island fights against its demise 
    ECLI:NL:RBDHA:2026:1347, Rechtbank Den Haag, C/09/659832 / HA ZA 24-53 (English translation)
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    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. 
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    Rights and Resilience in Pacific Climate Advocacy - Episode 16 (with Keakaokawai Varner Hemi, Sereana Naepi, Julia Dehm and Cristy Clark)

    18/02/2026 | 1h 56 mins.
    In this episode, Cristy and Liz share Part Two of their LSAANZ Conference special on Rights and Resilience.  The episode brings highlights from the December 2025 Law and Society Association of Australia and New Zealand Conference, held in Ōtautahi Chirstchurch. The theme of the Conference was Rights, Relationality, Resilience, Reciprocity, and this episode focuses on sharing insights and advances from days two and three of the Conference - including book launches, Conference dinner, and Conference closing. The core hilight of the episode is a recording from the second keynote panel presentation on Rights and Resilience with Dr Keakaokawai Varner Hemi (U Waikato), Associate Professor and Rutherford Discovery Fellow Sereana Naepi (U Auckland), and Associate Professor Julia Dehm (La Trobe) beautifully curated by Cristy. This panel centres and champions the leadership of young Pacific leaders taking climate change to the highest court on the planet, and challenges all of us working in universities to make them places deserving of Māori and Pacific scholars, students, and communities. The episode is the second of two episodes bringing Conference highlights, and focuses on the Conference themes of Rights and Resilience, with particular focus on these concepts in the context of climate change, Pacific peoples, and education.
    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here
    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. 
    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. 
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
    LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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    Relationality and Reciprocity in River Governance - Episode 15 (with Gerrard Albert, Anne Poelina and Erin O'Donnell)

    30/01/2026 | 1h 30 mins.
    In this episode, Cristy and Liz share Part One of their LSAANZ Conference special on Relationality and Reciprocity.  The episode brings highlights from the December 2025 Law and Society Association of Australia and New Zealand Conference, held in Ōtautahi Chirstchurch. The theme of the conference was Rights, Relationality, Resilience, Reciprocity, and this episode focuses on sharing insights and advances from day one of the conference - including the early career workshop, conference opening, reception, and book prizes. The core hilight of the episode is a recording from the first keynote panel presentation on Relationality and Reciprocity with Māori leader Gerrard Albert (Whanganui Iwi), First Nations leader, scholar, activist and artist Professor Anne Poelina (University of Notre Dame and Martuwarra River Council), beautifully curated by Associate Professor Erin O'Donnell (University of Melbourne, Birrarung Council). The episode is the first of two episodes bringing Conference highlights, and focuses on the Conference themes of Relationality and Reciprocity, with particular focus on these concepts in the context of water governance, climate change, and Indigenous sovereignty.
    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here
    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. 
    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. 
    You can also find us on the following platforms:
    LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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About Law at the End of the World
In this podcast, coming to you from the end of the world, Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark share developments and insights about how law is being used to support outcomes for the environment and those who depend on it - i.e. everyone.
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