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Ozzie Pullin & Craig Bingham
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  • 28: Finding The DNA | Editor & Film Director, Saar Klein
    In this episode, we speak with two-time Oscar nominee editor Saar Klein. He’s known for editing films such as Almost Famous, The Thin Red Line, and The Bourne Identity, to name a few. He also directed the feature film After the Fall.In our conversation, we discussed how he broke into the industry, his approach to storytelling, managing egos, and the importance of opening yourself up to the creative process.This episode is sponsored by The Gate+ and produced by Jack Kirkwood.Hosted by directors Craig Bingham and Ozzie Pullin.Saar Klein - BiographyFilm editor Saar Klein is a two-time Oscar nominee for his work on Terrence Malick’s The Thin Red Line and Cameron Crowe’s Almost Famous. The Thin Red Line was Klein’s second credit as editor, and alongside his Oscar nomination, Klein also received nominations from the ACE, ACCA, and OFTA Awards. For Almost Famous, Klein won the ACE Award for his editing and was similarly nominated for an ACCA and OFTA Award.Klein’s collaborative relationship with director Doug Liman began with The Bourne Identity for Universal Pictures, where the two relative newcomers introduced a new realism and energy to action that influenced the genre for years to come. Their partnership continued with films including Jumper for 20th Century Fox, Locked Down for Warner Bros., Fair Game, American Made, and most recently The Instigators for Apple TV, starring Matt Damon and Casey Affleck.Klein also works frequently with director Terrence Malick, their first collaboration being the documentary Endurance, which premiered at Venice Film Festival. Their relationship flourished with The Thin Red Line, The New World, and Klein’s uncredited work on The Tree of Life, and the two continue to collaborate to this day. Other credits include Jean-Stéphane Sauvaire’s Asphalt City, which was nominated for the Palme d’Or at Cannes Film Festival, Andrew Heckler’s Burden, which was nominated for the Sundance Grand Jury Prize, Antonin Baudry’s The Wolf’s Call for Netflix, and Dito Montiel’s Fighting for Universal Pictures.More recently, Klein worked on the Apple TV series Masters of the Air, directed by Cary Fukunaga and starring Austin Butler. Previously, Klein wrote, directed and edited his own film, After the Fall, winner of the 40th Anniversary Award at the Deauville American Film Festival. The film also premiered at Berlin International Film Festival and was nominated for an Audience Award at SXSW Film Festival.Originally from Jerusalem, Klein eventually moved to the United States and received his bachelor’s degree in psychology from Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, New York. On his first job, he assisted editors Joe Hutshing, Pietro Scalia, and Hank Corwin on Oliver Stone’s JFK, then later returned to co-edit Stone’s U-Turn. Klein’s versatility across various genres and experience with big-budget studio films and European and independent cinema are a testament to his diverse interest and expertise in storytelling that he continues to hone with each new project.
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  • 27: Know What You Want | Director, Margot Bowman
    In this conversation we speak to director, Margot Bowman. We discuss her love for animation, her approach to documentary and why club culture sits at the heart of everything she does.This episode is sponsored by the Gate+ and produced by Jack Kirkwood Hosted by directors, Craig Bingham and Ozzie Pullin.Born and raised in London, Margot Bowman uses the medium of film in all its forms, as a creative vehicle for telling powerful human stories, centred on emotional truths.Margot’s visually striking work is textured with thoughtful animation, CGI or archive that’s woven amongst her poetic live-action. This medium-agnostic approach to storytelling creates a rich visual language that reframes the familiar so that audiences connect with the story at hand in new and original ways.Growing up in Camden, Margot is consistently inspired by her home city’s legacy of club culture, creativity, freedom of expression and community. Formerly the Creative Director of Boiler Room, she has since directed commercials for major clients including Nike, Dr Martens, Carhartt, Space NK and Byredo, with narrative and documentary commissions from the likes of Channel 4, The Tate, Dazed and NOWNESS.Most recently, she co-directed Amazon Prime’s highly anticipated documentary feature The Tour, a 90-minute film about the relaunch of Victoria’s Secret’s iconic fashion show, reimagined through the lens of 20 diverse female artists from around the world.Her documentary Coming Home premiered at SXSW 2022, was awarded Best Short at the prestigious Palestine Cinema Days, and was shortlisted for the International Documentary Association’s films of the year. These powerful experiences in documentary are built off her natural ability to connect with people and bring their stories to screen with intimacy and style.Moving forward, Margot is intent on creating storytelling-driven work that sits at the heart of the cultural conversation. Her diverse creative background and innate understanding of the zeitgeist, accelerates her lyrical storytelling to create work that is contemporary, informative and delivered to audiences in a rich visual world that resonates in pop culture and beyond.
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  • #26: NOW THEN LIVE | How To Survive In A Rapidly Evolving Industry
    In this special live episode, we sat down with some of the industry's leading voices to reflect on the past year.We discussed the biggest challenges they faced, how they overcame them, the importance of nurturing new talent, and what it takes to survive in a rapidly evolving industry.Guests:Mayling Wong | EP @ Spindle - https://www.spindle.co/Henry Littlechild | Freelance Director - https://www.henrylittlechild.com/Charlie Roberson | Head of Talent & EP @ Rogue - https://www.roguefilms.co.uk/Nnena Nwakodo | EP @ Magna Studios - https://www.magnastudios.com/James Niklasson | EP Gate+ - https://thegateplus.com/Lisa Green | Creative Consultant - https://www.lisa-green.uk/Hosted by:Craig Bingham & Ozzie PullinThis episode is sponsored by Gate+ and produced by Jack Kirkwood.Hope you enjoy.
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  • #25: The Pitching Process | Creative Directors, Tomas Coleman & Derek Man Lui
    In this episode, we speak with Mother London creative directors Tom Colman and Derek Man Lui. We discuss the pitching process, how to present an idea to a client, and how to find the right director for the job.The podcast is hosted by directors Ozzie Pullin and Craig Bingham and produced by Jack Kirkwood.This episode is sponsored by The Gate+. We hope you enjoy.
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  • #24: Meet The Hosts | Directors, Ozzie Pullin & Craig Bingham
    In this episode, the hosts turn the microphones on one another. Ozzie Pullin and Craig Bingham sit down for an open, honest, and vulnerable conversation about their relationship and journey through the industry. They provide context not only for their personal stories but also for how the podcast came to life.Ozzie and Craig are independent directors from West Yorkshire, now based in London.This episode is sponsored by The Gate+ Produced by Jack Kirkwood
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NOW THEN! A podcast that discusses commercial and creative filmmaking. Our guests lay bare the ups and downs of finding a voice within an ever-changing and, at times, unforgiving industry. This podcast is hosted by Ozzie Pullin and Craig Bingham, fellow directors and close friends.
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