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This week on The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, the spotlight was on Mark Zuckerberg — but it didn’t stay there for long.

Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner take you inside a dramatic week in court as Zuckerberg faced questioning about youth safety, platform design, and internal company practices — followed by testimony from a former insider whose statements directly conflicted with his.

In this episode:
The most revealing exchanges from Zuckerberg’s time on the stand
The key claims he made — and what evidence challenged them
A whistleblower’s testimony that told a very different story about how platforms operate
Emotional reactions from parents watching it unfold in real time
Why legal observers say this week could shift momentum in the trial
A new Annual Report by Bark connecting Kaley's harm to children today

Millions are watching because what happens here will reshape accountability for the most powerful tech companies in the world.
This isn’t just a trial. It’s a turning point.

Thank you to our special guest, Titania Jordan of Bark Technologies. Here's their 2025 Annual Report, referenced in the episode.

The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative.

Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

Week 3 marks a turning point inside the courtroom: opening statements begin, the first witnesses take the stand, and the stakes become unmistakably real. Hosts Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) bring you inside the proceedings as plaintiffs and defense lay out competing narratives about what happened to Kaley—and what responsibility tech giants bear.

Plaintiff attorney Mark Lanier delivers what attendees call a “masterclass” opening, previewing internal records from YouTube and Meta suggesting early-age targeting and engineering for addiction. Defense attorney Paul Schmidt counters with a starkly different claim: that social platforms can benefit vulnerable teens and that responsibility lies elsewhere - on parents. YouTube counsel Louis Lee insists repeatedly: YouTube is not social media.

The first expert witness, addiction psychiatrist Dr. Anna Lembke of Stanford University, author of Dopamine Nation, walks jurors through the neuroscience of compulsive use—arguing that platform design features can function like addictive stimuli, especially for adolescents. Cross-examinations grow tense as attorneys challenge her comparisons and conclusions.

Midweek brings the highly anticipated testimony of Adam Mosseri, head of Instagram, questioned about past statements on social media addiction, teen safety, and whether growth incentives conflict with child protection. Outside the courthouse, grieving parents—including featured guest John DeMay—camp overnight for seats, hold direct actions targeting Snapchat, and remind the world what this trial is really about: children.

You’ll hear:
Real-time courthouse reflections
Parent voices from the steps outside
Key courtroom exchanges that could shape the verdict
Legal context explaining what jurors must decide

Next week’s witnesses raise the stakes even higher, with expected testimony from Mark Zuckerberg and Neal Mohan.

Because this isn’t just a trial. It’s a reckoning. And we’re translating every moment that matters for families everywhere.

This bonus episode of The Heat is On… Big Tech on Trial slows down to hold space for the weight of this moment.

Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner are joined by Brandy and Toney Roberts, parents of 14-year-old Englyn Roberts, whose life was cut short after being exposed to harmful content on Instagram and other social media platforms. What unfolds is not just a conversation about Meta’s technology—but about grief, truth, and what it means to refuse indifference.

The Roberts family shares how Instagram’s algorithms repeatedly recommended suicide-related content to their daughter, how duplicate videos remained online long after being reported, and how easily this material continues to circulate today. Sarah breaks down the technical reality: the tools to prevent and remove this content exist—and always have.

Interwoven with these devastating realities are moments of grounding, connection, and meaning: reflections on community among bereaved parents, a courthouse vigil outside the Los Angeles trial, and the belief that love—never indifference—is what drives this fight.

This episode is raw. It is painful. And it is essential.

As the courtroom doors finally open, this conversation captures what’s truly on trial: corporate choices, accountability, and the lives of children.

Listener discretion advised.

Week 2 inside the courtroom didn’t unfold the way anyone expected.

Just as jury selection was set to continue, the judge announced a sudden pause—triggered by illness, followed by a denied request from Meta to delay the trial for 30 days. What does a delay really mean in a case like this? And who benefits when time is bought?

In this episode of The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, hosts Nicki Petrossi (of Scrolling 2 Death) and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) break down what happened behind the scenes, why jury selection may be the most important phase of the entire trial, and how defense strategies are already taking shape.

You’ll hear legal context from veteran trial attorney Michael Quade, along with firsthand perspective from affected parents Toney and Brandy Roberts, who lost their 14-year-old daughter Englyn and are suing Meta, Snap, and TikTok for wrongful death and negligence.

This week was grounded not by legal maneuvering—but by the parents.

Survivor parents from around the world gathered in Los Angeles to witness the trial. Together, they held a vigil on the courthouse steps, honoring their children and demanding accountability. Nearly 20 media outlets showed up to hear their stories—not corporate talking points, but the human cost behind them.

This case isn’t just about evidence or arguments. It’s about children.
It’s about who controls the narrative.
And it’s about which side of history we choose to stand on.

We’re inside the courtroom—so parents everywhere don’t have to rely on headlines alone.

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The courtroom doors are open—and the stakes couldn’t be higher.

In this Week 1 recap of The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, we take you inside the very beginning of what some are calling the tobacco trials of our generation: the first case in the social media addiction litigation, where some of the most powerful companies in the world—Meta and YouTube—are facing off against a child.

This week was all about jury selection. But don’t let the term fool you—some trials are effectively decided here.

From the courthouse, hosts Nicki Petrossi (of Scrolling 2 Death) and Sarah Gardner (of Heat Initiative) break down what actually happened during the week, why it matters, and what an “impartial juror” even looks like in a world saturated by social media.

We’re joined by:
Attorney Laura Marquez Garrett (SMVLC), with legal context on jury selection, the TikTok and Snap settlements, and what Big Tech fears most as this trial moves forward.
Julianna Arnold, founding member of Parents RISE and mom to Coco, who passed awayat 17 from social media harms—and now a plaintiff in the consolidated case—sharing what it feels like to finally be this close to the truth.

In this episode, you'll hear:
What stood out emotionally and ethically inside the courtroom
How 450 potential jurors were narrowed down—and why that process can make or break the case
Why media access is already a fight, with only 10 seats available for press
The growing comparisons between these trials and Big Tobacco—and what history tells us
What survivor parents are bracing for as testimony begins

Plus: what’s coming next, including opening statements, witness testimony, and the anticipated appearance of Mark Zuckerberg.

We’re inside the courtroom so parents everywhere don’t have to guess what’s happening behind closed doors.

Because this trial—and the ones that follow—will shape the future of child safety online.

Next week: Final jury selection and Opening Statements.
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