That’ll Preach

Christian leadership often celebrates strength — gifting, vision, productivity. But Scripture keeps pushing us somewhere counterintuitive: to weakness, dependence, and the kind of leadership where God’s power is the point, not ours. In this episode, Dave Harvey unpacks the core message of The Clay Pot Conspiracy: leaders don’t fall because they’re weak — they fall because they hide it. And when we cover our limits, protect our image, or outrun our character, we step away from the very place where God works most powerfully. We talk about the quiet patterns that shape leaders over time, why vulnerability is essential for integrity, and how embracing our fragility isn’t a liability but the doorway to sustained, God-dependent ministry. For pastors, ministry leaders, and anyone who wants to lead without pretending to be strong, this conversation offers a clear, honest, and deeply hopeful path forward. Show Notes Purchase Dave’s Book: https://a.co/d/5GNqVtk Learn more about Dave’s work: https://revdaveharvey.com/ Support the Podcast Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube Channel

What did the early Christians actually expect about the future? Were they vague or symbolic, or did they have a clear picture of what was to come? In this episode, Dr. Michael Svigel shares insights from his book Fathers on the Future, revealing that second-century leaders like Irenaeus anticipated a real, visible kingdom, Christ’s return, and a renewed world. We’ll explore: How the early church imagined the future Common misunderstandings about their expectations What we can learn about hope and faith from their perspective Even if you’re not familiar with debates about the “millennium” or the end times, this conversation offers a fascinating window into how the first Christians lived in light of what they believed was coming. Purchase Michael’s Book: https://a.co/d/jjeZz2K Learn more about Michael’s work: https://fathersonthefuture.com/ Support the Podcast Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube Channel

Most of us learn to pray by listening to others. But what if we could learn from the prayers of believers who have gone before us — prayers shaped by Scripture, refined through centuries, and written to form our hearts and words together? In this episode, we talk with Jonathan Kanary about The Book of Common Prayer — what it is, how it’s structured, and why it’s one of the most deeply Protestant resources ever written. They explore how written prayers don’t replace spontaneous prayer, but actually train us for it, and how praying together with common words shapes a community in faith, humility, and love. If you’ve ever wondered whether written prayers are “too formal” or “too high church,” this conversation will give you a fresh, surprising look at a book designed to help ordinary believers learn to pray.

We’re reposting this episode in anticipation of Reformation Day. John Henry Newman once said, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant." Dr. Michael Haykin disagrees — and in this conversation, he shows why Christians today need the wisdom of the early Church Fathers. Join us as we explore: What Cyprian, Athanasius, Augustine, Ignatius, Irenaeus, and Clement teach about baptism, communion, and church leadership Common myths about the Church Fathers and why their example of faithful, reflective living matters today How their pursuit of holiness can shape your daily devotion and spiritual growth Fun (and surprising) clarifications: Is John MacArthur a bishop? Are Presbyterians right about infant baptism? Support the Podcast Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube Channel  

A follow-up to my conversation with Samuel Parkison on baptism and the faith of children. We rightly guard against false assurance—but can that caution lead us to delay baptism too long? In this episode, we explore household theology, the “paedobaptist pull,” and the danger of penalizing kids for good catechesis or “boring” testimonies. How can Baptists recover discernment without drifting into legalism or despair? Read Samuel’s Article: https://samuelparkison.substack.com/p/the-baptist-case-for-baptizing-believing Subscribe to Samuel’s Substack: https://samuelparkison.substack.com/ Support the Podcast Support us on Patreon Website: thatllpreach.io IG: thatllpreachpodcast YouTube Channel