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The Resilient Pastor

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  • 60 | Nona Jones on Embracing Rejection & Finding Strength in Ministry
    Send us a textSharon Hodde Miller talks with Nona Jones about how rejection can shape your purpose and strengthen your ministry. Drawing from her own experiences in leadership, Nona shares how pastors can process hurt, set healthy expectations in relationships and stay resilient in the face of challenges.Episode LinksDownload Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Check out Nona Jones's book, The Gift of Rejection, wherever books are sold.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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  • 59 | Jackie Hill Perry & Preston Perry on Screen Time, Family Rhythms & Ministry Life
    Send us a textRich Villodas talks with Jackie Hill Perry and Preston Perry about navigating the pull of technology, setting healthy family rhythms and keeping their marriage strong in the midst of ministry demands. They share honest insights on creating space for connection, managing digital distractions and trusting God with the pressures of parenting and leadership.Episode LinksDownload Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at Barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Hear more from Jackie & Preston on With The Perrys.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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  • ​58 | Robby Angle on Building Discipleship Cultures, Small Groups & Embracing Slow Growth​
    Send us a textSharon Hodde Miller talks with Robby Angle about relational discipleship, building small groups that foster real growth and why changing church culture takes time. They explore practical steps for investing in leaders, cultivating meaningful relationships and trusting God with the slow but lasting work of discipleship. Episode LinksLearn how RightNow Pastors Plus equips ministry leaders with on-demand training at rnow.me/plus.Check out True Face for resources on relational discipleship.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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  • 57 | Tyler Staton on Making Room for the Spirit & Reaching a Spiritually Open Generation
    Send us a textRich Villodas talks with Tyler Staton about helping people experience God in meaningful ways. They explore practical steps for creating space for the Holy Spirit, how to pastor in a spiritually open culture and why awakening desire is key to connecting with today's generation. Tyler also shares insights on preaching, prayer and learning to lead with courage.Episode LinksDownload Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Check out Tyler Staton's new book, The Familiar Stranger, wherever books are sold.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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  • 56 | Daniel Muvengi on Parenting in a Digital Age & Supporting Pastors Globally
    Send us a textGlenn Packiam sits down with Dr. Daniel Muvengi (from World Vision International) to discuss the challenges pastors in Kenya are navigating, the pressures of parenting in ministry and how the Church is working to strengthen families. They also explore ways that churches in the West can learn from the resilience and perspectives of the global church. Episode LinksWatch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.Get World Vision’s free resource on parenting: Parenting the Open GenerationView all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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About The Resilient Pastor

Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.
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