63 | Jenni Catron on Leading & Sustaining a Healthy Staff Culture
Send us a textIn this episode, Sharon sits down with leadership coach Jenni Catron (founder of the 4Sight Group) to discuss what it takes to cultivate and sustain a thriving church staff culture. Together, they unpack how trust, clarity, and intentional systems help teams flourish, while reminding leaders that every role in the church is mission critical. Jenni offers practical wisdom for building trust through character and competency, creating healthy feedback rhythms, and stewarding the sacred responsibility of leading others well.Episode LinksText BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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62 | The Surprising Shift in Church Attendance – with David Kinnaman & Ashley LaLonde
Send us a textBarna’s newest research reveals a stunning reversal: for the first time in decades, men are attending church more than women. Host Rich Villodas sits down with David Kinnaman and Ashley LaLonde from Barna to unpack what’s driving this shift and what it means for pastors and leaders. From purity culture to politics, Gen Z to single moms, this conversation offers both empathy and practical insight for churches navigating today’s changing spiritual landscape.Episode LinksText BARNA to 55123 to get your free Mission-Based Budgeting guide from BELAY, helping pastors and churches thrive for over 15 years with step-by-step tools to build a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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61 | Pastoring in Polarized Times
Send us a textIn this episode of The Resilient Pastor Podcast, Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas, and Sharon Hodde Miller discuss how pastors can lead with wisdom and calm in polarized times. Drawing from Barna research and their own pastoral experiences, they explore what it means to be a non-anxious presence, when to speak (and when to stay silent), and how to shepherd a politically diverse congregation with humility, prayer, and conviction.Episode LinksFree Resource from Our Partner, BELAYFor over 15 years, BELAY has helped pastors and churches thrive. They’re offering a free download of Mission-Based Budgeting—a step-by-step guide to building a budget that fuels your ministry’s mission.Get your copy: Text BARNA to 55123.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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60 | Nona Jones on Embracing Rejection & Finding Strength in Ministry
Send us a textSharon Hodde Miller talks with Nona Jones about how rejection can shape your purpose and strengthen your ministry. Drawing from her own experiences in leadership, Nona shares how pastors can process hurt, set healthy expectations in relationships and stay resilient in the face of challenges.Episode LinksDownload Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Check out Nona Jones's book, The Gift of Rejection, wherever books are sold.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
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59 | Jackie Hill Perry & Preston Perry on Screen Time, Family Rhythms & Ministry Life
Send us a textRich Villodas talks with Jackie Hill Perry and Preston Perry about navigating the pull of technology, setting healthy family rhythms and keeping their marriage strong in the midst of ministry demands. They share honest insights on creating space for connection, managing digital distractions and trusting God with the pressures of parenting and leadership.Episode LinksDownload Barna's Thriving Church booklet for 15 key dimensions of church health at Barna.com/measuring-what-matters.Hear more from Jackie & Preston on With The Perrys.Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.
Join pastors Glenn Packiam, Rich Villodas and Sharon Hodde Miller as they invite leaders to think out loud together about the challenges and opportunities of leading a church in a rapidly changing world. In each episode, they will have a conversation about church leadership and the challenges pastors are facing. Then, they’ll share a conversation with a pastor, church leader, thinker or theologian about the health of the pastor, the state of the church and what it looks like to love well and lead faithfully.
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