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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with Ger Jones to explore how pastors can help their churches recover a renewed vision for evangelism. Drawing from his ministry at Vintage Church in Los Angeles and his experience with Alpha, Ger shares how churches can create spaces where spiritually curious people feel loved, heard and safe to explore Jesus. Together, they discuss why evangelism must begin with empathy, how listening can soften hearts, and why clear gospel proclamation still matters. This conversation equips pastors to reach the lost with humility, courage and renewed compassion. 

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In this episode, Sharon Miller sits down with Esau McCaulley to explore what it means for pastors to preach truth with biblical integrity while navigating cultural tension. Drawing from Scripture, pastoral ministry, and Barna’s research, they discuss why pastors must resist being shaped by cultural narratives and instead help their people interpret reality through the lens of Scripture. Esau offers wisdom on preaching with courage, theological depth, and love for the congregation God has entrusted to you. This conversation equips pastors to lead faithfully when truth requires both conviction and care. 

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In this host-led episode, Rich Villodas, Sharon Miller, and Glenn Packiam explore what it means to steward authority well in pastoral leadership. From the subtle weight of a pastor’s words to the challenge of receiving honest feedback, they unpack how influence shapes church culture—often more than leaders realize.
Together, they discuss why feedback is so difficult to give (and receive), how insecurity can distort power dynamics, and what it looks like to create a culture where trust, honesty, and accountability can grow. They also share practical insights on building healthy leadership structures, inviting input from teams, and knowing when to lead with clarity and conviction.

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In this episode, Sharon Miller sits down with Glenn Packiam and worship pastors Luke and Anna Hellebronth to explore the relationship between senior pastors and worship leaders and why it matters for a healthy church. Drawing from their experience at Rockharbor Church, they discuss how trust, alignment, and shared vision shape both services and culture. They offer practical insight into planning, navigating creative tension, and partnering in leadership. This conversation equips pastors to build stronger, more aligned relationships with their worship leaders.

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In this episode, Glenn Packiam sits down with pastor and author Jay Kim to explore how church leaders can navigate technology and AI with wisdom and clarity. Drawing on ministry experience in Silicon Valley, Jay reflects on how digital tools can serve as a “front door” for connection while still pointing people toward embodied spiritual formation and community. Together they discuss how pastors can embrace innovation without losing the irreplaceable power of human presence in ministry.
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Download Parenting the Open Generation at worldvision.org/resilient26. 
Watch this episode on Barna’s YouTube Channel.
View all Resilient Pastor podcast episodes on our podcast page.