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    Demis Hassabis on AGI by 2030, Curing Every Disease, Life After AGI, and More

    26/05/2026 | 15 mins.
    Demis Hassabis says we’re in the ‘foothills of the singularity’
    In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to break down:
    Why AGI is coming in 2030, plus or minus a year
    How AI will compress drug discovery from 10 years to weeks
    Why glasses are the killer app form factor AI was waiting for
    What Demis will work on after AGI (and what's left for human meaning)
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    Sundar Pichai on Agents Replacing Engineers, Google's Future, AI's Flip Phone Moment, and More

    21/05/2026 | 19 mins.
    Google just revealed Omni, personalized cross-device intelligence, and Spark agents at I/O 2025.
    In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google CEO Sundar Pichai (@sundarpichai) to break it all down:
    Why today's AI will look "primitive like a flip phone" in 3 years
    Engineers now becoming agent managers 
    The Omni model: "Nano Banana for video" + the future of content
    Sundar's advice for young people navigating the AI shift
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    Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’

    16/12/2025 | 56 mins.
    Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking.

    It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling.

    In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack:
    AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI era
    How to structure content to get cited in AI answers
    The hidden risk of low-quality AI content
    Effectively using AI agents as teammates
    The coming “AI App Store” for agents
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    Demis Hassabis on Gemini 3, Google Antigravity, Medical-grade AI, and more

    18/11/2025 | 19 mins.
    Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena.
    In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack:
    Gemini 3 and Google’s AI strategy
    Google's new Antigravity tool
    Medical-grade AI and proactive healthcare
    The skill of "learning how to learn"

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    Sam Altman on Zero-Person AI Companies, Sora, AGI Breakthroughs, and more

    07/10/2025 | 30 mins.
    OpenAI just unveiled HUGE developer updates at DevDay 2025 - Apps in ChatGPT, Agent Builder, Sora in the API, and Codex updates that can handle day-long tasks.
    In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (@sama) to unpack:
    Sam's Sora AI deepfakes going viral
    Zero-person billion dollar companies run by agents
    AI starting to make scientific discoveries on Twitter
     ChatGPT's 800M weekly users and the new distribution platform
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About Rowan's Notes
Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.
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