Thinking On Paper

What happens when AI becomes better than humans at running the global economy?

Oxford futurist Anders Sandberg joins Thinking on Paper to explore AGI governance, distributed intelligence, post-labour societies, AI safety, autonomy, and whether humanity would willingly surrender control in exchange for stability, comfort and optimization.

This is a short from a much longer conversation with Anders.

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Former NASA scientist Philip Metzger joins Thinking on Paper to explain the Physics of Moon dust.

The conversation moves from Starship landings and rocket exhaust physics to Artemis, lunar infrastructure, orbital logistics, damaged hardware, and the growing challenge of building permanent infrastructure and habitations on the moon.
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Harvard economists and authors Matt Weinzierl and Brendan Rosseau join Thinking on Paper to explore the future of the space economy, orbital infrastructure, commercial space stations, space-based data centres, lunar governance, and the economics shaping humanity’s expansion beyond Earth.

We discuss SpaceX, Artemis, Starlink, microgravity manufacturing, asteroid resources, and why space may become the next great economic frontier.

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Chapters

(00:00) The Balance of Government and Market in Space
(03:35) The Role of Microgravity in Space Research
(07:43) Economic Incentives and Long-term Investments in Space
(12:14) Navigating Political Cycles in Space Policy
(17:09) International Collaboration and Competition in Space
(18:45) The Importance of Security in Space
(21:36) The Power of Space Exploration
(24:27) Space as an Invisible Backbone
(28:49) The Debate on Space Investment
(30:37) Challenges of Space-Based Data Centers
(33:40) Exploring the Future of Space Resources
(38:26) Governance in Space: A New Era
(40:55) Minimum Viable Governance in Space

IBM’s Scott Crowder joins Thinking on Paper to discuss the future of quantum computing, why the field remains so polarising, and how quantum systems could integrate with classical AI infrastructure.

You'll learn about superconducting qubits, protein simulation, quantum-centric supercomputing, Nvidia, and why IBM believes useful fault-tolerant quantum computing could arrive by 2029.
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Chapters
(00:00) Trailer
(01:20) Quantum computing: real, hyped, or both
(02:40) Why reference architectures decide which technologies win
(05:05) Superconducting vs. trapped ion vs. spin qubits
(06:47) Why accessibility and algorithmic discovery are the real bottlenecks
(12:34) Cleveland Clinic's 303-atom protein simulation
(13:44) IBM's quantum-centric supercomputing architecture
(16:07) What already runs on quantum computers today
(17:58) how quantum and classical converge
(22:28) What Richard Feynman would make of the field today
(25:25) What quantum computing means for the future of data centers
(32:01) Quantum computers in space
(42:19) Qiskit, NVIDIA, and open source

Oxford futurist Anders Sandberg joins Thinking on Paper to explore AGI, brain emulation, AI agents, transhumanism, digital consciousness, and the future of human augmentation.

We discuss uploaded minds, AI governance, space colonisation, orbital economies, and whether advanced AI makes war more or less likely.

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Chapters

(00:00) TRAILER
(08:09) Mobile Technology on Humanity
(11:51) Accountability in AI Agents
(18:25) Empathy in Human-AI Interaction
(25:35) AGI vs. Alien Life
(27:36) Consciousness and Brain Emulation
(35:52) Uploaded Minds
(40:33) Parallel Realities and Memory Merging
(45:16) Human Collaboration and Organizations
(46:24) AGI
(51:23) The Dual Economy
(57:43) Space Ownership
(01:05:18) Human Expansion
(01:17:49) The Space Race
(01:21:43) Space Exploration
(01:24:22) New Forms of Governance
(01:26:18) NASA
(01:28:41) Breakaway Movements in Space
(01:30:16) Space Governance
(01:34:18) Fusion Energy
(01:42:15) Time and Life Extension
(01:48:06) Extended Lifespans
(01:52:03) Technology