Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

MDMR releases the call audio from the boat in Nolan Wells case and it's raising lots of questions. You can hear what sounds like someone in the background might be saying, "Is he dead?" The audio also sounds like someone is saying "Nolan."
JOINING NANCY GRACE:
Marie Pereira - Criminal Defense Attorney, Domestic Violence Expert (Domestic violence expert certified advocate, batterers prevention), Registered Nurse
Dr. Elliott Connie - Pyschotherapist, Author: "Change Your Questions, Change your Future," President & Founder, The Solution Focused Universe, Podcast host: Family Therapy Podcast, Host of upcoming show: "The Elliott Connie Show," www.elliottconnie.com, YouTube: ElliottConnieSpeaks Facebook: Elliottspeaks Instagram: @elliottspeaks
Todd Terrell - President of Cajun Navy
Thomas Coyne - Medical Examiner, University of Florida. District Eight Medical Examiner, State of Florida. Toxicologist. Forensic Pathologist and Neuropathologist.
Alexis Tereszcuk - Crime Stories investigative reporter
Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
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Details of the terrifying ransom notes have surfaced in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the investigation ongoing nearly six months later. Dispute over a sixty-five-dollar garage parking fee escalates into a deadly shooting spree at Saint Paul apartment complex leasing office. Wisconsin mother shot and killed during a child custody exchange, hours after filing a restraining order against her child's father. Sydney Silvagni reports.
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Karmelo Anthony convicted in just three hours for the shocking murder of 17-year-old standout student and football star Austin Metcalf at what was supposed to be an ordinary track meet in Frisco, Texas. It escalated into a horrific tragedy when a simple dispute over a team tent during a rain delay ended with Metcalf being stabbed in the chest.
Now, hearings are set for August, just six weeks after Anthony was sentenced to prison. He has a new team of lawyers filing motions for a new trial. Among the issues, attorney say the original trial was effectively closed to the public, jury instructions were misleading regarding self-defense, Judge John Roach publicly defended the verdict to reporters, and prosecutors did not honor an off-the-record evidentiary agreement. The off-the-record deal prevented the teen from testifying in his own defense.
The attorneys have also asked for Judge John Roach to be removed from post-trial hearings because of bias.
A different Collin County judge will hold a hearing on Aug. 19 to on the motion to replace Judge Roach.
The next day, the defense team will argue their motion for a new trial.

Joining Nancy Grace Today:
Randy Kessler – Defense attorney based out of Atlanta, Georgia.

Lisa Herrick – Trial lawyer, partner at Varghese Summersett, and former juvenile prosecutor.

Dr. John Delatorre – Licensed Psychologist and Mediator (specializing in forensic psychology); Psychological Consultant to Project Absentis: a nonprofit organization that searches for missing persons; Twitter, IG, and TikTok - @drjohndelatorre
Barry Hutchinson – Former 26-year Law Enforcement Veteran and Detective, Owner & Chief Investigator for Barry & Associates Investigative Services located in Kansas & Missouri

Douglas Griffin - Senior Police Officer and President of the Houston Police Officer’s Union, Served 29 years Specializing in the Gang Task Force and Divisional Gang Unit
Dr. Kendall Crowns – (Fort Worth, TX) Chief Medical Examiner for Tarrant County (Fort Worth), Host of Podcast: Mayhem in the Morgue, and lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at Texas Christian University.
Katy Barber – Senior Digital Content Producer at My San Antonio
Dave Mack – Crime Stories Investigative Reporter.

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Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Kendall Crowns examines the rare phenomenon known as the Lazarus effect, or autoresuscitation, where signs of life return after a person has been declared dead. He starts with the case that’s been making headlines: 18-month-old Vincent Lorenzo Fiordilino, pronounced dead after a drowning, then found alive hours later in a hospital morgue. Dr. Crowns explains how death is actually determined, what might cause circulation to kick back in after resuscitation has already stopped, and the safeguards hospitals use to prevent a person from being declared dead prematurely. He also shares other reported cases of people showing signs of life at funeral homes and explains how he knows the person on his autopsy table is, in fact, actually dead.

Highlights
(0:00) Welcome to Mayhem in the Morgue with Dr. Kendall Crowns
(00:30) The case of 18-month-old Vincent Lorenzo Fiordilino, who was found alive in a hospital morgue
(1:15) Childhood drowning risks and why crowded gatherings around swimming pools can become dangerous
(2:45) What happens to the body during drowning and the five stages that can lead to death
(6:15) Vincent’s resuscitation, declaration of death, and the signs of life reportedly noticed by his family and first responders
(7:15) What agonal breathing looks like and why it can be mistaken for signs of recovery
(8:30) A medical examiner transporter discovers Vincent alive more than five hours after he was pronounced dead
(9:45) The Lazarus effect, or autoresuscitation, and where the term comes from
(10:45) Other reported cases of people showing signs of life after being declared dead
(12:45) How medical professionals determine death and the additional criteria used to establish brain death
(15:15) What the Lazarus effect looks like when it occurs
(16:00) The theories behind why circulation can sometimes return after CPR has stopped
(17:15) Why patients should be monitored after CPR ends before death is declared
(18:00) How Dr. Crowns knows someone is dead before beginning an autopsy
(19:15) Dr. Crowns’ grandmother, a family fear of being buried alive, and a needle that may have been involved in confirming a death

About the Host
Dr. Kendall Crowns is the chief medical examiner for Travis County, Texas, and a nationally recognized forensic pathologist. He has led death investigations in Travis County, Fort Worth, Chicago, and Kansas. Over his career, he has performed thousands of autopsies and testified in court hundreds of times as an expert witness. A frequent contributor to Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Dr. Crowns brings sharp medical insight and dark humor to the often-misunderstood realities of forensic pathology.

About the Show
Mayhem in the Morgue takes listeners inside the bloody, bizarre, and often unbelievable world of forensic pathology. Hosted by Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Kendall Crowns, each episode delivers real-life cases from the morgue, the crime scene, and the courtroom. Expect gallows humor, hard truths, and unforgettable investigations.

Connect and Learn More
Learn more about Dr. Kendall Crowns on LinkedIn and follow Mayhem in the Morgue on TikTok at @mayheminthemorgue. Catch him regularly on Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and be sure to follow Mayhem in the Morgue wherever you get your podcasts.
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When Katherine “Kat” Torbick's co-workers can’t reach the registered nurse, they call police. Schaumburg police force entry into Katherine’s home, and find her lying on the couch, dead,
with clear signs of trauma. In the garage, investigators find Katherine’s ex-boyfriend, Kevin
Motykie tying a noose. Motykie, 56, is unsteady and slurs his words while admitting he took
lorazepam and hydrocodone. As Motykie is placed in handcuffs, officers discover a recording
device in his pocket with a 7-hour tape between the hours of 2:00 and 9:00 a.m. that morning.

The seven-hour audio recording captures Motykie interrogating Katherine about infidelity, hitting her, and sex assaulting her while she begs him to stop. In the final four minutes of audio Motykie is heard strangling Katherine, repeatedly telling her to "think of somewhere happy."
Motykie has a history of domestic violence allegations in three prior orders of protection. In
fact, Motykie attacks Katherine just weeks prior to her murder. Motykie allegedly chokes
Katherine, tries to gauge her eyes out, and threatens her at knifepoint. Katherine manages to
escape to a neighbor’s home and call 911. Investigators document her injuries, and in a
videotaped statement, Katherine says she’s afraid Motykie will eventually kill her. Police issue
a warrant for Motykie’s arrest, but are unable to locate him.
Kevin Motykie is now behind bars, charged with first-degree murder and three counts of aggravated sex assault. He's scheduled to appear in court again May 29th.

Joining Nancy Grace today:
Maria Acopiado - friend and co-worker
Franz Borghardt - Criminal Defense Attorney, Founder of Borghardt Law Firm, Former Prosecutor, Adjust Professor at Louisiana State University teaching Criminal Litigation, website: www.borghardtlawfirm.com, Insta/FB: BorghardtLawFirm
Dr. Shari Schwartz - Forensic Psychologist (specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy), www.panthermitigation.com, X: @TrialDoc, Author: "Criminal Behavior" and "Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology"
Marie Pereira - Domestic Violence Expert (Domestic violence expert certified advocate, batterers prevention), criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor, registered nurse
Sabrina Franza - Reporter, CBS News Chicago
website: www.cbsnews.com/chicagoInsta @sabrinafranza / Tiktok @sabfranza
Dave Mack - Investigative Reporter, 'Crime Stories'
Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet", Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan", Instagram @JoScottForensic

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