Exploring the Marketplace

Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson tackle a struggle many leaders, creatives, and believers quietly carry: striving for God instead of working with God.
This episode features guest Nathaniel Vossler, former CFO turned founder of Rhema Now, an app designed to help believers engage in listening prayer, group intensives, and Spirit-led coaching. In early 2025, Nathaniel stepped away from the corporate world after sensing God’s clear call into a new season—building this platform alongside his wife while raising their growing family in Idaho.
Together, Shawn, Bob, and Nathaniel get practical about:
Moving from pressure to presence
Saying no to good things that aren’t God things
Creating Spirit-led rhythms for your calendar and decisions
Hearing God clearly in real business and life transitions
Letting go of ego, overcommitment, and burnout
Building sustainably with God, not just for Him
Shawn and Bob also share personal stories of burnout, overextension, and the hard-earned wisdom that comes from learning to surrender control and trust God’s pace. This episode is an honest, hope-filled invitation to trade striving for peace—and rediscover what it looks like to walk in true partnership with the Holy Spirit.
If you’re tired, driven, successful—but longing for peace—this conversation is for you.
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Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson dive into a conversation every entrepreneur and business leader faces at some point: what do you do when you hit the wall and everything says quit?
In this powerful episode, Shawn and Bob unpack the tension between calling, perseverance, and wisdom—sharing personal stories of long seasons, financial pressure, uncertainty, and learning when to push forward versus when to pivot. They explore how faith sustains leaders through cash-flow crises, industry volatility, and moments where giving up feels easier than pressing on.
The conversation features a compelling testimony from Steve Smithwick, founder and president of MasterWall Incorporated. After losing his job with four young children at home, Steve stepped out in radical obedience to build a business from the ground up with minimal resources but deep conviction. Through years of financial hardship, near-collapse moments, and divine provision, Steve learned to rely on God’s timing, voice, and faithfulness.
This episode covers:
What it means to build a business when everything feels stacked against you
How perseverance and faith work together in real-world leadership
The importance of mentors, community, and godly counsel
Why “hard pressed” doesn’t mean finished
How God often forges purpose through pressure
If you’re facing a wall in your career, business, or calling, this episode offers courage, clarity, and hope. You may feel like you’re failing—but you could actually be forging forward.
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Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn and Bob welcome back Victor Mena, an executive banker with over 30 years of experience and a reputation as a trusted advisor. Since his last appearance, Victor has walked through the collapse of the bank where he spent 28 years—losing a career, deferred compensation, and long-term security nearly overnight.
Victor shares how God sustained him and his family through loss, spiritual warfare, and uncertainty—and how faith, unity in marriage, generosity, and wise counsel helped lead him into a new season of leadership and influence.
This episode covers:
What happens when a successful career suddenly ends
Faith, identity, and stewardship during financial loss
The biblical tension between debt, borrowing, and business growth
Practical guardrails for using debt wisely in entrepreneurship
Why unity, generosity, and peace are critical decision filters
How God redeems loss and creates new opportunity through obedience
If you’re an entrepreneur, leader, banker, business owner—or navigating major financial or career decisions—this conversation will give you wisdom, courage, and perspective for the road ahead.
🎧 Explore the Marketplace helps you hear God in your career and bring kingdom values into the marketplace.
📌 New episodes every Monday
📘 Learn how to hear God in your career: Wired to Hear
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Welcome to Exploring the Marketplace — the podcast where faith meets influence.
Today’s special live December episode features Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson in an unfiltered, timely conversation about burnout, rest, and God’s design for work and life. With recent studies showing that over 60% of Americans are experiencing burnout—and nearly 80% of people under 35—this episode speaks directly to the moment we’re living in.
From boardrooms and businesses to ministry, family life, and personal calling, Shawn and Bob unpack:
Why burnout is not just a workplace issue, but a spiritual one
What Scripture reveals about rest, Sabbath, and sustainable purpose
How to recognize unhealthy rhythms—and course-correct with God
Practical ways to hear God in the middle of pressure, deadlines, and responsibility
Why faith-filled leadership requires presence with God, not constant striving
You’ll also hear personal stories, leadership insights, and biblical perspective on navigating career demands without losing joy, clarity, or connection with God.
This episode marks a special milestone as Exploring the Marketplace officially moves to Mondays, helping you start your week inspired, grounded, and aligned with God’s purposes.
Whether you’re an entrepreneur, executive, creative, pastor, or professional—this conversation will encourage you to rethink success, redefine rest, and rediscover God’s voice in everyday life.
📌 New episodes every Monday
📘 Learn how to hear God in your career: Wired to Hear
🌍 Join the global conversation where faith shapes culture
👉 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who needs encouragement this season.
📌 Subscribe for weekly updates and prophetic insights from Shawn Bolz
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Take a class or attend an event at our Spiritual Growth Academy: Our 4 week classes and monthly events are designed to do the heavy lifting in your spiritual growth journey. Learn how to hear from God, stay spiritually healthy, and impact the world around you: https://bit.ly/3B2luDR
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Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson dive into the real stories you don’t usually hear on Sundays—where faith, work, courage, and calling collide. This episode is all about building runways from where you are now to what God is inviting you into next.
You’ll hear an inspiring conversation with Lauren Lancaster, a former casino executive assistant who followed a God-given spark into a thriving 20+ year career as a professional makeup artist in Los Angeles and beyond. From cleaning apartments and living on faith to red carpets, major productions, and divine open doors, Lauren shares how obedience, consistency, community, and wise counsel shaped her journey.
In this episode, we explore:
How to steward a spark into a sustainable career
Why assignments change, but identity doesn’t
The power of consistent reps over time
Navigating pivots, setbacks, and providential doors
Inviting wisdom, counsel, and community into your process
Recognizing God’s guidance in unexpected transitions
These conversations are designed to give you courage—to dream with God, take practical steps forward, and trust Him through the hard seasons as well as the breakthroughs.
If you’re wrestling with calling, career transitions, or how faith fits into real-world work, this episode will encourage you to keep going.
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Take a class or attend an event at our Spiritual Growth Academy: Our 4 week classes and monthly events are designed to do the heavy lifting in your spiritual growth journey. Learn how to hear from God, stay spiritually healthy, and impact the world around you: https://bit.ly/3B2luDR
Our resources: [email protected]
Our office: [email protected]