Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust

Petra's full conversation with Professor Niki Harré, from the episode Am I My Brother's Keeper?

Ohhhh how much more simple life would be if all we had to do was look out for ourselves.... But in a society that encourages insularity, and where its negative consequences can be clearly seen, how do we balance responsibility for ourselves, as well as responsibility for others?
In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra talks to returning fan favourite Frank Ritchie and the head of the school of psychology at Auckland University, Nikki Harré. Nikki's new book 'The Calling; A Year Exploring What the Secular World can Learn from Religion" is out on March 12th.
Sacred Text:
He Tatau Pounamu by Alistair Reese
Sam drew on reporting and interviews from Jad Abumrad's podcast Fela Kuti: Fear No Man. Listen to it on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts
Music:
Instrumental by The Fuzzy Robes
Zombie by Fela Kuti
Lagos (Never Gonna Be The Same) by Hugh Masakela and Tony Allen
Slider - Lorenzo Saxophone Dub by This Is The Kit
Nest Egg by Phoenix Foundation
Tesifa by Laney Tripp

Kia ora! We're back from our wee break and are stoked to be making more episodes of Sunday Sanctuary for you this year.
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Sacred Texts:
Unruly Saint by D. L. Mayfield
I Shall Be Released by Nina Simone

The four themes of the season of Advent in the Christian calendar are hope, peace, joy and love. There are two others that we've noticed, though, which are anticipation and celebration. In this episode, Petra explores how these two things can happen at the same time. First up, Petra and producer Sam talk to a handful of people who are all at different moments of change (graduation, motherhood, marriage etc). Later on Petra talks to Rev. Sarah Lea-West about her art (found here) and how she has learnt to navigate the combination of anticipation and celebration.
Sacred Text:
A passage from Padraig O'Tuama's book In the Shelter
Music:
Exchange by Massive AttackSunshine
Family Affair by Mary J Blige
The Breeze by Dr Dog
Peace Piece by Bill Evans
Muramura by Aro

Sunday the 30th of November marks the start of Advent for 2025, the season of the Christian calendar that leads into Christmas. As Petra and guest producer Mick get into, Advent is all about waiting. In the first half, Mick talks to his close friends Tom and Carly about a long wait they endured in 2021. Later on Petra talks to Rev. Mathew 'Newt' Newton about how faith in God can help us to learn to wait, even when it often feels like there is no good reason to.
Sacred Text:
Sacred Trust by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Music:
A Change is Gonna Come by Sam Cooke
Statue of a Woman by Novo Amour
Moon Age by Duster
Sitting in Limbo by Jimmy Cliff
Intro by The xx
Space 7 by Nala Sinephro