Sunday Sanctuary with Petra Bagust

We're all disciplined at some things and not at others, right? It's also not a very popular topic to explore, but in this episode we push forward anyway! Producer Sam starts by talking to cook and author Nici Wickes and psychologist Hayden Brown about the way that the theory about self-discipline translates to reality. Petra ropes in Frank Ritchie to unpack what it means to be spiritually disciplined, and why you might be doing better at it than you think.....
Sacred Texts:
Annie MacManus' interview with Femi Koleoso on her podcast Changes
Music:
Space is the Place by Ezra Collective
NIUEANS OF ARIKI STREET - HOME - 01 by Hanisi Garue
Raisins Under the Sun by Yussef Dayes ft. Shabaka Hutchings
Frolic by Jake Xerxes Fussel
Running Out of Time by Paramore
Shakara by Ezra Collective ft. Kokoroko
Morning Ritual by Casual Healing
Ocean City by Gunn - Truscinski Duo
Hayden Brown's podcast is called Breakthrough with Hayden Brown | Website | Spotify

Isn’t having a good old belly laugh just the best thing?! Humour brightens up our lives. It’s fun, frivolous, fanciful, frolicsome, farcical and, well, freakin’ funny. But what if humour is also foundational to our flourishing and fulfilment?
This week we’re taking humour seriously. We talk to psychologist Nettie Cullen about what humour does for us and Petra sits down with her old comedy mate, David Downs, who used humour to get through an otherwise grim cancer journey. And we even hear from some of you, accosted by us while relaxing in a park.
Oh and we promise you a hearty helping of hilarity along the way!

Comedy Clips:
James Acaster - Undercover Cop bit
Sarah Pascoe - ADHD Diagnosis bit
Jerry Seinfeld - It Is What it Is bit
Guy Montgomery - A Problem Shared bit

Podcast Clips:
The Imperfects - Shane Jacobson Episode

Music:
You Are the Gold by Terrible Sons (intro song)
She’ll Be Coming Round the Mountain - from The Topp Twins Music for Kids
Have You Fed Baby Huey Today by Surprise Chef
Business Time by Flight of the Conchords from HBO One Night Stand
The Mantra by Vulfmon, Devon Yesberger and Noé Socha

How do you react to being misunderstood? It's pretty rough, right? In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra Bagust catches up with punk rocker turned Anglican priest, Rev. Spanky Moore, who introduces Petra to an "MRI of the soul" called The Litany of Humility. Sacred texts include works from Eddie Izzard, Nina Simone, Michael Leunig and more. Later in the episode, Petra talks to therapist and author Shirley Pastiroff about where the pain of being misunderstood comes from, and whether seeking to be understood is always the best idea....
Sacred Texts:
Death Star Canteen bit from Eddie Izzard's 2002 show called Circle
'Kangaroo' scene from Denis Villeneuve's film Arrival
Music:
You Are the Gold by Terrible Sons (intro song)
Damaged Goods by Gang of Four
Outro by media puzzle
Pīwari by Christoph El Truento
Close but Not Quite by Everything is Recorded featuring Curtis Mayfield and Sampha
Lalo o le Mauga by SANGUINE
Don't Let Me Be Misunderrstood by Nina Simone
Walk Alone to Hear Thoughts of Your Own by Laura Misch

In this episode, Petra digs into what it looks like to actively care for the world we live in. First up, producer Sam heads to the mighty Waikato to talk to organic farmers Pauline and Sam Hunt. If you've ever wondered what it means to be an organic farmer or what it looks like to practice conservation on working land, this chat is for you.
Later in the episode, Petra talks to Ed Walker, the Executive Director of A Rocha International. A Rocha is a faith-based conservation charity with a presence in over 20 countries around the world.
Sacred Texts:
Feminism, The Body and The Machine by Wendell Berry
Prayer for Nature by Walter Rauschenbusch (used as the benediction)
Music:
Pīwari by Christoph El Truento
Bees by Caribou
Grazing in the Grass by Hugh Masakela
Let the Waves Know by Christoph El Truento and Lucky Lance
Sun Rays Like Stilts by Tommy Guerero
Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology) by Marvin Gaye
East Cape by Headland
Cinquante Six by Ali Farka Touré

We don't need to do everything by ourselves. Especially when life gets hard, it is super important to let others in to carry the weight of things together. To guide us in how we might do that, Petra first talks to Irish author and documentary producer Kevin Toolis about his book My Father's Wake. As it turns out, the Irish grieving ritual is packed with moments where people gather around the bereaved. In the second half, we bring back a conversation with former producer Grace McArthur from our 2024 episode on confession. She lays out Brené Brown's wisdom around vulnerability, a key ingredient in sharing the load with others.
A list of bookstores selling Kevin Toolis' book can be found here
Sacred Texts:
Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom
The film Living, directed by Oliver Hermanus and starring Bill Nighy and Aimee Lou Wood
Music:
FTA by Whitney
Ocean City by Gunn-Truscinski Duo
The Weight by The Band
Innerspace by The Apples in Stereo
One by U2
Pray for Me by SAULT
Equipoise by Max Roach