The Gut Health Gurus Podcast

Why are fit, healthy people with "perfect" diets developing early-onset cancers?
Neurosurgeon Dr Jack Kruse returns to the Gut Health Gurus Podcast to share his view that the answer lies not in food, but in the engine: your mitochondria, and the environment they run in. Host Kriben Govender (food scientist and nutritionist) opens up about his own stage 4 colorectal cancer diagnosis, and asks Dr Kruse why he believes Earth's shifting magnetic field, light, deuterium and oxygen's spin state shape mitochondrial and microbiome health — and what that could mean for people living in Australia.
In this episode:
- Why Dr Kruse says "stop blaming food, start blaming the engine"
- His theory on the magnetic field, agonic lines and disease in Australia
- Electron tunnelling, Marcus inversion and the vitamin D receptor - Singlet vs triplet oxygen, biophotons and the gut microbiome
- The microbiome as a deuterium gatekeeper
- Evolution, the Cambrian explosion and magnetism
- Why he discusses carbonated water, CO2 and cardiolipin
- "You can't get well in the environment you got sick in"
⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro: Dr Jack Kruse returns
01:00 "Stop blaming food, start blaming the engine"
04:50 Kriben's stage 4 colorectal cancer diagnosis
06:00 Why early-onset cancers are rising: the magnetic field theory
07:30 How mitochondria work: electron tunnelling & Marcus inversion
11:00 The vitamin D receptor as a "safety switch" 12:00 EMF, artificial light & indoor living
13:00 Spike protein & additive risk factors 14:15 Fasting, one meal a day & calorie restriction
16:00 Pole movement & the Carrington event 17:30 The Southern Ocean & Australian seafood
20:00 Global expedition: the South Atlantic Anomaly
22:00 El Salvador, volcanoes & Pacific Ocean findings
27:00 10% shield loss & the Laschamp event 29:30 Ancient civilisations & deuterium
33:00 Pole flips, ECDO theory & space weather
37:00 The microbiome as a deuterium gatekeeper
38:00 Spike assays & the body's "vortexes" 40:00 Biophysics vs biochemistry: singlet vs triplet oxygen
42:30 How bacteria & mitochondria communicate 43:00 The Cambrian explosion & magnetism
47:00 Should you leave Melbourne? 49:00 North vs south pole magnetic experiments (Becker)
50:30 Haplotypes & where you thrive 53:00 Bali & geopolitics 54:00 What Dr Kruse saw on a world cruise
56:00 Remembering Jason Bawden-Smith 57:00 What about people who didn't take the vaccine?
59:50 Is spike protein transmissible?
1:01:30 "You can't get well in the environment you got sick in"
1:03:30 Ancient builders & paramagnetic stone
1:06:00 CO2, volcanoes & Earth's feedback loop
1:08:00 Why carbonated water? Buteyko, Becker & Russian cosmonauts
1:11:00 Cardiolipin, cristae & the CO2 shield 1:13:30 How to support triplet-state oxygen
1:15:00 "Not everyone can move"
1:17:30 Where to find Dr Jack Kruse
Connect with Dr Jack Kruse
Website: https://jackkruse.com
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/drjackkruse
Socials: @DrJackKruse
 
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Kriben Govender (Host): https://linktr.ee/kribengovender
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In this episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, host Kriben Govender sits down with renowned food historian and author Professor Ken Albala (author of The World Atlas of Fermenting).
Together, they dive deep into the fascinating history of dietary theories, ancient humoral physiology, and how humanity has fermented foods across millennia. Prof. Albala also shares critical insights on why mass-produced supermarket probiotics miss the mark, the cultural significance of wild fermentation, and why feeding your microbiome whole plant diversity matters more than any pill.
Watch the full episode to discover rare traditional ferments like Greenland's Kiviaq, Nigeria's Iru, and Turkey's Şalgam Suyu, as well as the real origins of Kefir!
Timestamps / Video Chapters
[00:00] – Introduction to Prof. Ken Albala
[01:38] – What is Renaissance Dietary Theory? (The 4 Humors Explained)
[05:40] – Parallels with Ayurveda & Traditional Chinese Medicine
[09:25] – What Can Modern Nutrition Learn from Food History?
[14:15] – The Flaws of the Modern "Calorie as Fuel" Model
[16:13] – How Ancient Cultures Understood Fermentation & Microbes
[19:05] – Redefining Fermentation: Life, Transformation & Regeneration
[24:58] – The World Atlas of Fermenting: 140 Global Traditional Ferments
[25:26] – Greenland's Kiviaq: Fermented Birds in Sealskin
[27:18] – Local Microbiomes, Genetics & Food Mismatch
[30:28] – Why Şalgam Suyu Beats Kombucha (Traditional Turkish Fermented Drink)
[35:10] – The Problem with Commercialising Traditional Ferments (Iru & Natto)
[38:35] – The Truth About Commercial vs Home-Made Kefir
[41:05] – The Modern Revival of Artisanal & Craft Foods [
45:54] – Ken Albala's #1 Tip for Gut Health
[46:55] – Where to Find Ken Albala's Work & Daily Ferments
Connect with Professor Ken Albala
https://www.pacific.edu/campus-directory/ken-albala
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Discover the emerging science of quantum biology and how light, water, and connective tissue regulate human health from the inside out. In this episode, naturopathic physician Dr. Catherine Clinton joins the show to explore how frequencies of light—from morning blue light and soothing red rays to invisible infrared—directly charge our cells and influence circadian rhythms.
Move beyond purely chemical and dietary models of health and learn how our body operates as an intelligent, interconnected network. Dr. Clinton explains the hidden role of fascia as a piezoelectric, liquid-crystalline communication system powered by structured water and infrared energy. Learn how light exposure impacts gut lining turnover, the gut microbiome, skin aging, and mitochondrial ATP production.
What You'll Learn: The Electromagnetic Spectrum & Cellular Signaling: How visible colors, UV, and infrared light interact with retinal photoreceptors and skin chromophores.
Circadian Entrainment for Gut & Hormone Health: Why morning natural light initiates cortisol and metabolic cascades, and why artificial night light disrupts melatonin and enterocyte renewal.
Red Light & Collagen Synthesis: How red and near-infrared wavelengths stimulate fibroblast mitochondria in the fascia to support wound healing and smooth fine lines.
Fascia as a Quantum Conduction Network: The science of collagen nanotubes, piezoelectric charges, and Dr. Gerald Pollack's research on structured water acting as a biological battery.
Practical Mitochondrial Care: Accessible protocols including hydration, gentle stretching, sauna, red light application to the abdomen, and mindful intention.
Timestamps & Chapters
[00:00] – Start
[00:04] – Introduction: The physiological and psychological impact of colors
[02:09] – The electromagnetic spectrum: Ultraviolet, visible light, and infrared
[04:10] – Morning sunlight, circadian rhythms, and setting your cortisol cycle
[06:03] – Red and green light therapies: Pain relief, circulation, and mitochondrial ATP
[08:47] – Red light for skin health: Fibroblasts, fascia, and collagen production
[11:17] – Moving beyond chemistry to a quantum biological model of medicine
[12:00] – Ultraviolet (UV) and blue light: Antimicrobial properties and skin balance
[13:03] – Circadian regulation of enterocytes and gut barrier repair
[16:12] – Melatonin, evening light, and the gut-microbiome-mitochondria triad
[17:06] – Non-invasive abdominal light therapy for GI and autoimmune support
[19:27] – The bidirectional skin-gut connection and microbial signaling
[24:48] – Understanding fascia: Connective tissue, collagen triple helix, and nanotubes
[26:06] – Piezoelectricity: Generating electrical charges through fascia movement
[27:09] – Structured water (EZ water), hydrophilic surfaces, and infrared energy
[28:36] – The biological "water battery" and quantum proton conduction
[31:46] – Fascia stretching research and cellular resilience
[33:20] – Practical ways to support fascia: Hydration, gentle movement, and infrared exposure
[35:15] – The mind-body connection: How meditation and mindset nurture mitochondria
[36:40] – Dr. Catherine Clinton's #1 daily gut health practice
🔗 Resources:
Connect with Dr Catherine Clinton
🔗 https://www.drcatherineclinton.com/
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In this deeply personal and vulnerable episode, Kriben Govender (Founder of Nourishme Organics and host of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast) returns to the studio to share a significant life update. After a period of absence from social media and podcasting, Kriben reveals the "curveball" he was thrown in August 2025: a diagnosis of Stage 4 Colon Cancer [13:27]. Despite being a pillar of health and a leader in the gut health space, Kriben details his shocking journey from noticing early symptoms to discovering a 6cm tumour that had metastasised to his liver and lungs [17:19]. In this episode, Kriben and James discuss: The Diagnosis: The early signs Kriben initially overlooked and the harrowing moment he received his Stage 4 prognosis [14:20]. The Root Causes: Kriben's theories on how extreme stress [22:01] and gut dysbiosis [24:04] may have allowed the disease to take hold. The Global Search for Healing: Why Kriben chose to seek unconventional and targeted treatments in Germany, including dendritic cell vaccines [32:05] and trans-arterial chemo embolisation [28:56]. The Power of the Microbiome: The incredible story of how a faecal transplant from his wife [37:15] and specific dietary shifts led to a dramatic shrinkage of his tumours. A Message of Hope: How Kriben's tumours have shrunk from 6cm to approximately 1cm [45:08], and his mission to inspire others to become active participants in their own health journey [41:40]. Kriben shares his current state of remission, the importance of a positive mindset (the "placebo effect" of the mind) [52:13], and his commitment to returning to full health while continuing to support the Nourishme Organics community.
 
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In this episode of the Gut Health Gurus Podcast, Kriben Govender sits down with Dr. Catherine Clinton, a licensed naturopathic physician and expert in Quantum Biology.
Dr. Clinton shares her powerful personal story of being diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Ulcerative Colitis, and Lyme Disease during medical school—and how this health crisis led her to discover the profound link between our thoughts, emotions, and biology (Psychoneuroimmunology). We dive deep into the science of Quantum Biology, exploring how sound (phonons), light (photons), and electrons impact our health. Dr. Clinton explains the fascinating research behind sound healing, including how low-frequency sounds can repair red blood cells and oxygenate the body. We also discuss practical strategies for nervous system regulation, the healing power of expressing "negative" emotions like anger, and why simple practices like humming and toning can be revolutionary for your health.
 
In this episode, we cover:
[00:00] Introduction to Dr. Catherine Clinton and her background.
[01:34] The "straw that broke the camel's back": Dr. Clinton's autoimmune diagnosis in medical school.
[03:09] What is Psychoneuroimmunology? Understanding the mind-body connection. [04:19] The positive feedback loop of stress, inflammation, and immunity.
[07:32] Steps to healing: Diet, short-term interventions, and natural anti-inflammatories.
[10:01] Why observing your thoughts is the first step to healing (you don't need to be a Zen master!).
[16:33] Practical tools for nervous system regulation: Qigong, shaking, and chanting. [20:18] The healing power of safely expressing anger and grief.
[24:47] Quantum Biology Explained: Electrons, Photons, and Phonons.
[25:55] The Science of Sound: How sound affects cell membranes and red blood cells. [28:17] How humming/toning boosts Nitric Oxide and oxygenation.
[34:27] Frequencies and the importance of "sound diversity" for health.
 
About Dr Catherine Clinton: 
Dr. Catherine Clinton is a licensed naturopathic physician, author, and researcher specialising in gut health, autoimmunity, and psychoneuroimmunology. After being diagnosed with multiple autoimmune conditions and Lyme disease during medical school, she dedicated her career to uncovering the foundational environmental factors that drive cellular healing.
She is a leading voice in the field of quantum biology, exploring how our health is shaped by subatomic interactions with the natural world—including sunlight, grounding, and the "fourth phase" of structured water. As the founder of the Quantum Biology Health Institute, Dr. Clinton bridges the gap between complex biophysics and practical wellness, teaching how to optimize mitochondrial function and the "internal terrain" through alignment with circadian rhythms.
Dr. Clinton is the author of Optimize: A Groundbreaking 7-Step Plan to Health and Longevity Through Quantum Biology (2026) and the founder of Well Future, a company focused on food-based supplements for pediatric immune and gut support. She is a frequent speaker at global health summits and a contributor to peer-reviewed research on the intersection of the microbiome and environmental medicine.
 
About Kriben Govender: Kriben Govender is a Food and Nutrition Scientist, Registered Nutritionist, and the founder of Nourishme Organics, a company specialising in gut health and fermentation products. With over 20 years of experience in the food industry, Kriben is passionate about the intersection of diet, gut health, and well-being.
🔗 Resources:
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🔗 https://www.drcatherineclinton.com/
 
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Kriben Govender (Host): https://linktr.ee/kribengovender
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