Higher Density Living Podcast

• The Spiritual Alchemy of Fatherhood: Creation, Innocence, and Evolution

  Introduction   Welcome back to Higher Density Living! After a brief hiatus, hosts Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby reunite in the studio, buzzing with life’s latest revelations. Jason returns from a European adventure, while Alexander steps into fatherhood with the birth of his son, Gabrael. Together, they unpack the profound alchemy of parenting—blending raw spiritual awe with biological evolution. This episode, Part 1 of a two-part series, invites listeners to explore creation’s edge, where innocence meets potential and exhaustion reveals divinity.   Hosts Bio Alexander McCaig: Co-host of HDL, a consciousness seeker and new father, sharing transformative insights from his journey into parenthood. Jason Rigby: Co-host, spiritual guide, and father, back from a European trip, weaving travel tales with deep reflections on the human condition.   Key Discussion Points 1. The Return and Life Updates Jason kicks off: “We’re back! My gosh, it’s been some time. You’ve really been gone—you’ve been busy.” Alexander: “I’ve been gone ‘cause I had a newborn recently—one of the most transformational experiences of my entire life.” Jason: “You were in Europe too—Napoleon, Corsica. But yeah, we’re both fathers now. Kind of wow, right?”   2. Fatherhood as Creation’s Mirror Alexander: “The power of creation at the human level—another human growing inside a human because two came together. It’s not just physical, it’s deeply spiritual.” Jason: “It’s a symbolization of creation growth—innocence and potential, that’s all that’s there.” A renewal moment: The newborn reflects creation’s essence—pure, unfiltered, and brimming with possibility.   3. Innocence and Potential in Newborns Jason: “What I love from a spiritual perspective is seeing innocence and potential—so beautiful, we forget it.” Alexander: “They’re helpless, needing 100% of your attention—like tending the most delicate crops.” Jason: “They’re not desensitized like us—they see the world fresh, and we can’t limit that.”   4. The Responsibility of Self-Awareness Alexander: “You need self-control and self-awareness to not impress your stifled energy onto the child.” Jason: “Everything you bring to their care opens their potential—or stifles it. There’s two options.” Alexander: “You’d want the maximum and the best—hoping they take your best and step above you. That’s evolution’s point.”   5. Biological Evolution in Parents Jason: “Parents undergo shocking transformations—gray matter increases, prefrontal cortex and hypothalamus grow for bonding.” Alexander: “Oxytocin’s through the roof—your senses max out, supercharging your brain.” Jason: “Evolution doesn’t stop; having a kid accelerates it for both parent and child.”   6. Sanctification Through Chaos Jason: “Sleepless nights and constant care—it’s sanctifying, a space for divine presence.” Alexander: “Try this: Use the newborn as a candle—gaze into their eyes silently. You’ll be shocked how long they hold your attention.” Jason: “It’s pure connection—a meditation.”   7. The Energy of Naming (Gabrael’s Story) Alexander explains naming his son Gabrael Rowin: “Energy in names matters—spelling and meaning align with creation’s patterns.” Why “Gabrael” (AEL spelling): “An older, primordial form meaning ‘might of creation,’ synced with birth timing and Chaldean numerology.” Rowan: “‘One who lives in righteousness’—congruent energy for his potential.” Jason: “I love that—it’s not just a name, it’s intentional energy.”   8. Awe and Exhaustion as Spiritual Gifts Jason: “Why do we feel awe in exhaustion after birth?” Alexander: “It’s creation reminding you of true purpose—a visceral truth you’ve ignored, demanding your attention.” Alexander: “You could feel this awe every moment if you paid attention, but the baby forces it. Look at the raw power and beauty.”   Memorable Quotes “The power of creation at the human level—it’s a renewal.” – Alexander “Innocence and potential—that’s all that’s there in a newborn.” – Jason “Your brain evolves as much as the child’s—evolution doesn’t stop.” – Jason “Creation wakes you up: Look at the raw power and beauty of this.” – Alexander   Resources Mentioned HDL Podcast Archives: Explore all episodes at higherdensityliving.com Coming Soon: Part 2 of this fatherhood series—stay tuned!   Call to Action Subscribe to Higher Density Living for Part 2 and more consciousness explorations. Share your thoughts: How has creation touched your life? Comment below! Visit higherdensityliving.com to browse past episodes and awaken your potential.   Closing Thoughts   Jason and Alexander close Part 1 with excitement for a deeper dive in Part 2, leaving listeners with a powerful reflection: Fatherhood isn’t just raising a child—it’s a spiritual and evolutionary catalyst. From Gabrael’s energy to the awe of exhaustion, this episode beckons you to look within and embrace creation’s edge.   Connect with HDL:    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/highdensityliving Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hdlspiritualpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HigherDensityLiving TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@higherdensityliving   Subscribe: Join Alexander and Jason for more journeys into the unseen.  

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• Lost in Life’s Madness? Find Oneness Where You Least Expect It

  Host: Jason Rigby   Guest: Selina Maitreya, Spiritual Leader, Author, and Teacher of Practical Spirituality   Introduction:  In this mind-expanding episode of Higher Density Living, host Jason Rigby welcomes Selina Maitreya, a trailblazing spiritual teacher and author of Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life. After surviving a life-altering car crash and channeling a decade of divine downloads, Selina unveils a radical truth: every irritation—traffic jams, rude cashiers, even personal crises—is a secret doorway to oneness. Together, they explore how shifting your frequency, not just your thoughts, unlocks peace and purpose in the messiest moments. Packed with gritty stories and practical tools, this episode is a wake-up call to live spiritually in the real world.   Guest Bio: Selina Maitreya is an internationally acclaimed lecturer, author, and pioneer of Practical Spirituality—a hands-on approach to weaving higher consciousness into daily life. Her latest book, Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life (June 2024), is a workbook born from a decade of pain and divine guidance following a 2013 car crash that left her with a traumatic brain injury. From bankruptcy to breakthroughs, Selina’s journey proves that responding to life’s difficulties with love transforms everything. She’s launching a Raise Your Frequency Transform Your Life Work Study Group in June 2025 to guide others in embodying this wisdom. Learn more at practicalspiritualitywithselina.com.   Key Discussion Points: 1. Everyday Chaos as a Spiritual Doorway Selina: “Traffic jams, rude cashiers—these are gold. They’re opportunities to respond from love, not ego.” Jason: “People think spirituality is a cave and meditation, but you say it’s right here in the mess.” Spirit’s message: Difficulty exists so we can access our higher frequency—love.   2. Frequency vs. Thinking: The Game-Changer Jason: “Self-help says ‘change your thinking.’ You say ‘change your frequency.’ Why’s that the fix we’ve missed?” Selina: “Thoughts are dense 3D structures—frequency is the building block. Shift that, and the brain follows effortlessly.” Science twist: The brain recognizes frequency, not new ideas—EEGs prove it’s alive with energy.   3. Practical Oneness in Action Selina’s phone hold story: “I said, ‘If I sound irritated, it’s me, not you’—and flipped a woman’s terrible day.” Pickle jar moment: Helped a grieving woman in a supermarket, turning fury into kindness. Jason: “That’s oneness—your love connects to theirs, beyond the ego.”   4. Ego’s Sneaky Trap: Personalization Jason: “Why do we make it about ‘me’—the narcissistic monkey mind?” Selina: “It’s conditioning—low frequency lands, and we match it. Love gives a new pathway.” Insight: High frequency (love) kills victimhood; ego thrives on it.   5. Free Will: Saying No to Love Selina: “Free will is choosing yes or no to the divine as guidance—we’ve said no since kids.” Jason: “That shook me—why do we reject love?” Selina: “Fear’s the default until we see the divine’s power.”   6. The Brain Injury Book Miracle Jason: “You couldn’t type or talk, yet Spirit said, ‘Write a book.’ How?” Selina: “Five years of phone recordings, two years typing—seven years blind, trusting the divine.” First read: “I saw it after my editor—it blew me away. These tools kept me sane.”   7. Breakdown to Breakthrough Selina’s chaos: Ditched a relationship, filed bankruptcy, moved multiple times—all while writing. Jason: “Most call that a breakdown—you call it a breakthrough. How’d you stay sane?” Selina: “A deep divine relationship pre-crash, plus daily practices like going quiet and asking, ‘What’s the higher purpose?’”   8. Pain as an Alarm Clock Jason: “You say pain’s not a dead end—it’s an alarm. Explain that to someone in a health crisis.” Selina: “It’s an alert to choose high frequency—feel gratitude in your heart, person by person, to shift the experience.” Example: Her student with vertigo lessened it through gratitude practice.   9. A Call to Action in Crazy Times Selina: “We’re all called now—boots on the ground or shining a light. Respond with love in every moment.” Jason: “That’s service—not just for us, but the oneness field we share.” Quote: “If we all responded from love, we’d be in a different place.”   Memorable Quotes: “Difficulty is your chance to shift—thank the cashier, thank the jerk in traffic.” – Selina “Change your frequency, not your thoughts—it’s efficient, it’s divine.” – Selina “Love’s the only energy we all share—ego’s pain is different, but oneness is universal.” – Selina “Pain’s an alert—choose gratitude, and it’s not the same.” – Selina “We’re called now—every response from love is service.” – Selina   Resources Mentioned: Book: Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life by Selina Maitreya (June 2024) – Order at practicalspiritualitywithselina.com Work Study Group: Raise Your Frequency Transform Your Life Work Study Group – Starts June 2025, details at practicalspiritualitywithselina.com/work-with-selina/ Website: practicalspiritualitywithselina.com – Explore Selina’s teachings and story   Call to Action: Grab Raise Your Frequency, Transform Your Life and start practicing today! Join Selina’s June 2025 Work Study Group—details at practicalspiritualitywithselina.com. Share: How will you respond with love today? Comment below!   Closing Thoughts:   Jason thanks Selina for a practical, soul-shaking hour that redefines spirituality as a daily act of love. From supermarket meltdowns to health crises, this episode proves peace is a frequency shift away. Tune in, raise up, and transform your life—one moment at a time.   Connect with HDL: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/highdensityliving Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hdlspiritualpodcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HigherDensityLiving TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@higherdensityliving   Subscribe: Follow Jason Rigby for more journeys into higher consciousness at higherdensityliving.com.  

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• Black Isis & Kali: Secrets of the Pythian Priestess Unleashed – The Dark Goddess Rises!

  Host: Jason Rigby   Guest: Ashley M. Ryan (Pythian Priestess)   Guest Bio: Ashley M. Ryan, known as Pythian Priestess, is an initiated priestess in a Hermetic Order dedicated to the Goddess Auset (Isis). With over half her life dedicated to studying and practicing magick and witchcraft, she rose to TikTok fame in 2019 and founded the Pythian Mystery School in 2020. Ashley is a spiritual leader, educator, and advocate for reclaiming the sacred feminine in its wholeness—light and shadow alike.   Episode Overview: In this powerful and thought-provoking episode, Jason Rigby welcomes back Ashley M. Ryan, the Pythian Priestess, to discuss her evolving journey as a spiritual leader and the fierce, unapologetic nature of the divine feminine. Ashley shares her insights on sacred rage, the commodification of spirituality, and the importance of integrating the shadow self. Drawing from ancient archetypes like Black Isis, Kali, and the Black Madonna, she offers practical rituals and wisdom for women seeking wholeness in a world that often dilutes the sacred. The conversation explores themes of truth, resilience, and the balance of light and shadow, challenging the "love and light" narrative with a call to embrace the wild and transformative aspects of spirituality.   Key Themes:   1. Sacred Rage and the Warrior Archetype Ashley steps into the "warrior archetype" as a woman, not to destroy, but to defend truth, the sacred, and the mysteries (01:40). She connects this to her astrological birth chart (Saturn and Mars in the sixth house), emphasizing service and discipline (01:40).   2. The Dilution of Spirituality Ashley expresses grief over the commodification of spirituality, watching it become a "branded ATM" rather than a transformative tool (02:35). She critiques spiritual bypassing and the avoidance of pain, especially post-LA fires (03:32).   3. The Dark Goddess and Wholeness Referencing Dancing in the Flames by Woodman and Dickinson, Ashley explains the absence of the dark goddess in modern society and its damaging effects (04:41). Archetypes like Kali, Black Isis, and the Black Madonna embody resilience, fierce love, and the integration of suffering (16:06, 20:00).   4. Thumos: The Spirited Fire of the Soul Ashley introduces the ancient Greek concept of Thumos—righteous anger that defends truth and honor—contrasting it with the "love and light" narrative (10:39). She ties this to Plato’s chariot allegory and the Rider-Waite-Smith tarot’s Chariot card, symbolizing balance between the soul’s appetites and higher aspirations (14:05).   5. Embracing the Shadow Ashley emphasizes that the shadow is not an enemy but a part of wholeness, urging listeners to alchemize pain into wisdom (33:50, 35:15). She shares a personal story of a nightmare at 15, revealing unexpressed rage and the unconscious mind’s role in healing (23:04).   6. Practical Rituals for Integration Ashley offers two rituals: mirror gazing with a candle to confront the soul (28:38) and scrying with a black bowl to uncover unhealed wounds (30:11). She stresses the importance of action post-ritual, such as therapy or inner child work (32:53).   7. Fear and the Occult Addressing fear around witchcraft and the occult, Ashley attributes it to societal conditioning and the rejection of feminine archetypes (42:16). She invokes Ma’at (balance and justice) as a source of boldness to face suffering and reclaim the sacred (40:42).   Detailed Timestamps: 00:01 - Introduction: Jason welcomes Ashley back, noting her journey as Pythian Priestess and the success of her prior episode. 00:41 - Ashley’s Current Calling: Ashley discusses stepping into the warrior archetype to defend truth and the sacred, inspired by her birth chart (Saturn and Mars in the sixth house). 02:35 - Sacred Rage and the Pythian Mystery School: Ashley reflects on the commodification of spirituality post-LA fires and her mission to restore its depth through the Pythian Mystery School and her podcast, The Occult Unveiled. 04:41 - The Dark Goddess: Introduction to Dancing in the Flames and the societal lack of the dark goddess, with Ashley advocating for women to "take up the sword" against patriarchal imbalance (05:25). 10:39 - Thumos and Truth: Ashley explains Thumos as righteous anger, linking it to Plato’s chariot allegory and the tarot’s Chariot card (14:05). She ties it to four virtues: wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance (12:00). 16:06 - Black Isis and Black Madonna: Ashley explores Black Isis as a symbol of suffering and resilience (17:13) and the Black Madonna as wisdom and realism (20:00), forged in chaos and fierce love. 22:08 - Teaching Wholeness at Pythian Mystery School: Ashley uses dreams and meditations to help students confront the unconscious and embrace the dark goddess (22:36). She shares a personal nightmare as an example (23:04). 28:38 - Practical Rituals: - Ritual 1: Mirror gazing with incense and a candle to see beyond the mask (28:38). - Ritual 2: Scrying with a black bowl and an invocation to uncover unhealed parts (30:11). 33:50 - Embracing the Shadow: Ashley reframes the shadow as a source of strength, not evil, and shares her hypnosis therapy experience to alchemize pain (37:07). 38:40 - Fostering Righteous Anger in the Mystery School: Through meditations, students meet archetypes and receive symbolic gifts (daggers, keys), fostering self-understanding (39:42). 42:16 - Overcoming Fear of the Occult: Ashley attributes fear to societal rejection of feminine archetypes and credits Ma’at for her boldness (40:42). 47:32 - Where to Find Ashley: Ashley shares links: pythianmysteryschool.com, Etsy (Pythian Priestess) for tarot readings, and YouTube for Pause with Pythian and free classes.   Notable Quotes: Ashley on Sacred Rage: "There is a lot of rage right now in our society... It is a warrior for truth. It’s a warrior for the sacred and to defend the mysteries." (01:40) On Spirituality’s Dilution: "I’m watching it become an ATM for people. It’s lost its meaning and it’s a tool that should be used." (02:35) On the Dark Goddess: "Light is blinding. Light hurts. It’s about breaking through illusion." (10:11) On Thumos: "It’s the passion and the fire in my soul to bring back the sacred into the world." (14:05) On the Shadow: "You can turn the poison into medicine because the change in the integration is saying, ‘Okay, so this is the symptom.’” (37:07)   Resources Mentioned: Book: Dancing in the Flames by Marion Woodman and Elinor Dickinson (available on Amazon, eBay, and Internet Archive). Pythian Mystery School: pythianmysteryschool.com Podcast: Pause with Pythian (on YouTube as Pythian Priestess). Tarot Readings: Etsy (search "Pythian Priestess"). Social Media: TikTok, Instagram, Blue Sky, YouTube (@PythianPriestess).   Actionable Takeaways: Confront Your Soul: Try Ashley’s mirror-gazing ritual with a candle and incense to see beyond your mask (28:38). Uncover the Unconscious: Use a scrying bowl with an invocation to reveal unhealed wounds, then act on the insights (30:11). Honor Your Shadow: Recognize rage, jealousy, or pain as parts of you needing compassion, not rejection (33:50). Embrace Fierce Love: Reflect on how suffering has forged your resilience, drawing inspiration from Black Isis or Kali (16:06). Join the Journey: Explore Ashley’s free meditations on Pause with Pythian or enroll in the Pythian Mystery School (47:32).   Closing Thoughts: This episode is a bold call to reclaim the sacred feminine in its entirety—fierce, wild, and whole. Ashley M. Ryan, as Pythian Priestess, challenges listeners to move beyond superficial spirituality and embrace the transformative power of the dark goddess. Whether through rituals, shadow work, or her teachings at the Pythian Mystery School, she offers a path to truth and resilience in a world craving balance.  

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• Unlock the Secret Language of Plants: A Spiritual Journey to Heal Yourself & the Planet

  Host: Jason Rigby   Guest: Pam Montgomery   Guest Website: wakeuptonature.com   Podcast Mission: Higher and Saint Living (HDL) aims to explore profound topics that elevate consciousness and foster a deeper connection to the world around us. In this episode, we dive into humanity’s relationship with nature and the transformative power of plants with Pam Montgomery.   About Our Guest: Pam Montgomery   Pam Montgomery is an author, teacher, international speaker, and self-described Earth Elder who has dedicated over three decades to exploring the intelligent and spiritual nature of plants and trees. She is the author of two acclaimed books: Plant Spirit Healing: A Guide to Working with Plant Consciousness and Partner Earth: A Spiritual Ecology. Her latest work, Co-Creating with Nature: Healing the Wound of Separation, serves as the foundation for this episode’s discussion. Pam operates the Partner Earth Education Center at Sweetwater Sanctuary in Danby, Vermont, a space dedicated to co-creative research and sustainable living with nature. She teaches globally on plant spirit healing, spiritual ecology, and the concept of humans as "Nature Evolutionaries." Pam is a founding member of United Plant Savers and the Organization of Nature Evolutionaries (O.N.E.), and her current passion lies in facilitating plant initiations to guide humanity back to its symbiotic roots.   About Sweetwater Sanctuary   Located in Danby, Vermont, Sweetwater Sanctuary is a sacred space where Pam and her team honor the land, water, and all beings through prayer, ceremony, and offerings. It’s a haven for optimal learning and deep healing, encouraging visitors to awaken to natural rhythms and engage in loving kindness. The sanctuary fosters a profound connection with nature, enhancing the sense of sanctuary for all who visit.   Episode Overview   In this episode of the HDL Podcast, host Jason Rigby sits down with Pam Montgomery to explore her book Co-Creating with Nature: Healing the Wound of Separation. Recorded on March 29, 2025, this conversation dives into the consciousness of plants, their role as our elders and partners, and how reconnecting with nature can heal both ourselves and the planet. Pam blends scientific insights, personal anecdotes, and spiritual wisdom to offer a practical yet profound roadmap for living in harmony with "sweet Lady Gaia."   Key Discussion Points 1. Plants as Conscious Partners (03:12 - 06:46) Pam argues that plants are not just alive but conscious beings capable of communicating with us through vibratory resonance (light and sound). She emphasizes their essential role in sustaining life—providing oxygen, food, and medicine—and warns that our disconnect from them is dangerous. Jason references scientific studies showing plants responding to music and words, sparking a discussion on how everything vibrates, including humans and plants.   2. How to Communicate with Plants (06:46 - 13:14) Pam explains that plants fine-tune their resonance to us more effectively than we do to them because they are simply themselves, undistributed by human distractions. Practical tip: Be present with a plant, let it choose you (via attraction, movement, or intuition), and notice the sensations it evokes in your body (e.g., tingling, softness). She introduces biophotons—particles of light at the nucleus of our cells—that create a "laser" of coherence for two-way communication with plants, even across time and space.   3. Plant Initiations and Healing (13:14 - 18:06) Pam contrasts chasing external spiritual practices (e.g., gurus, crystals) with the power of "backyard weeds" like mugwort, which can heal us deeply through symbiotic connection. She shares a story of poke root appearing in her Vermont garden in 2020, a potent immune-supporting plant, as an example of nature responding to human needs. Plants show up where they’re needed, offering gifts we often overlook due to our lack of attention.   4. The Wound of Separation (19:11 - 22:22) Pam traces humanity’s separation from nature back 12,000 years to agriculture and empire-building, which led to an "amnesia" of our interdependence with the land. This original wound has cascading effects: separation from self, others, and the planet, resulting in widespread illness and disconnection. Biophilia—our innate love of nature—underscores how we’re designed to live closely with plants.   5. Uncomfortable Truths and Nature Evolutionaries (22:58 - 26:17) The biggest lie we tell ourselves: Humans are the "crown of creation" and more intelligent than nature. Pam challenges this, citing Darwin’s coerced narrative and nature’s model of cooperation over competition. On her website, wakeuptonature.com, Pam calls us to become "Nature Evolutionaries," partnering with nature rather than relying solely on technology to "save" the planet.   6. Nature’s Communication Networks (26:17 - 33:11) Pam shares a powerful story of a Puyo—an underground waterway portal in Vermont—where she and her husband, guided by Ecuadorian curandera Rocio Alarcon, heard forest spirits sing after a ritual with ayahuasca. She compares nature’s mycelium network to the internet, highlighting its efficiency and biomimicry potential.   7. Signs of a Consciousness Shift (33:11 - 37:53) Pam sees plants leading humanity’s spiritual evolution, citing the 1960s explosion of consciousness-expanding plants (cannabis, peyote, mushrooms) and modern practices like flower essences and plant initiations. Skeptics miss this hidden sign: Plants have always preceded their animal counterparts in evolution, and they’re now guiding us toward unity consciousness.   8. Diving Deeper into Nature (37:53 - 43:23) Unlike spiritual paths that reject the material world, Pam’s approach embraces nature as divine, present in everything—not a distant deity. She describes daily "wow moments" (e.g., sunrise walks in Belize) that release oxytocin, the bonding hormone, fostering restoration and connection over stress (cortisol). 9. Healing Through Plants (46:52 - 50:19) Pam cites biophysicist Fritz Popp’s discovery that plant biophotons can repattern unhealthy cells’ light toward health, offering a cellular-level explanation for plant healing. Beyond science, plants uplift us emotionally and spiritually—e.g., the awe of a redwood forest or the scent of roses—because healing is one of their primary gifts.   10. Mugwort as a Teacher and Soulmate (50:49 - 54:57) Mugwort (Artemisia spp.), known as "Oona, the first herb," moves stagnant energy, aids dream recall (nighttime and shamanic), and reconnects us to our wild, undomesticated selves. Associated with Artemis and the moon, it supports women through life transitions and is a key ally in spiritual healing.   11. Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Projects (56:11 - 58:06) Jason praises Co-Creating with Nature as a timely wake-up call with a heartbeat, inviting listeners to heal themselves and the planet through reverence for nature. Pam previews her work: Plant Initiations: Ceremonies where plants act as elders, guiding us to be "truly human." Offered at Sweetwater Sanctuary and worldwide. Year-Long Course (September 2025): With Emma Fitchett, training facilitators for plant initiations. Online Course: "Co-Creative Partnership with Nature" (8 months). Visit wakeuptonature.com for details.   How to Get the Book Title: Co-Creating with Nature: Healing the Wound of Separation Cost: $27.00 (includes shipping) Order by Mail: Send a check to Pam Montgomery, 1525 Danby Mtn. Rd., Danby, VT 05739 Order Online: Click here Buy it from Amazon     Quotes from the Episode "Plants completely, on all levels—physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual—provide us our life." – Pam Montgomery "The plant can fine-tune its resonance to us... They draw you to them." – Pam Montgomery "We are not the crown of creation. It’s about cooperation, not competition." – Pam Montgomery "Plants have always preceded their animal counterparts in evolution... They’re guiding us into a quantum leap in consciousness." – Pam Montgomery "Nature is sentient, just like we are. We’re equal in this co-creative partnership." – Pam Montgomery     Connect with Pam Montgomery   Website: wakeuptonature.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/natureevolutionaries IG: https://www.instagram.com/natureevolutionaries/ Upcoming Event: Stay tuned for a follow-up episode on plant initiations before the September 2025 course launch!     Listener Call-to-Action   Subscribe to the HDL Podcast for more conversations on consciousness and living sustainably. Purchase Co-Creating with Nature to dive deeper into Pam’s teachings. Share this episode with someone who loves plants or needs a nature-inspired wake-up call. Leave a review and let us know your favorite takeaway!   Thank you for joining us on this journey to reconnect with nature’s wisdom. As Pam says, "We’re on the threshold of a tipping point"—let’s step into unity together. See you next time on HDL!  

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• The Secret Your Dog’s Been Hiding – Decode Their Soul in 5 Minutes!

  Host: Jason Rigby   Guest: Elizabeth Anne Johnson, Animal Healer and Author Book: Know Your Dog’s True Nature: Understanding Canine Personality through the Five Elements (Findhorn Press/Inner Traditions Episode Overview   In this enlightening episode of the HDL Podcast, host Jason Rigby welcomes Elizabeth Anne Johnson, an animal healer with nearly 40 years of experience and the author of Know Your Dog’s True Nature. Together, they explore the ancient Five Element Theory from Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) as a sacred map to understanding canine personalities and the profound spiritual bond between humans and dogs. From the soul-level pact forged centuries ago to the karmic mirroring of rescue dogs, this conversation unveils how our furry companions guide us toward healing, self-discovery, and a deeper connection to nature.     Key Segments and Highlights   Introduction (00:00 - 01:06) Jason’s Welcome: Jason introduces the episode with enthusiasm, highlighting Elizabeth’s book and its promise to decode the soul of dogs through the Five Elements: Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and Water. He frames dogs as more than pets—sacred guides reconnecting us to our wild hearts. Elizabeth’s Greeting: Elizabeth expresses her excitement to join Jason and dive into this fun, spiritual exploration.   The Ancient Soul Pact Between Humans and Dogs (01:06 - 04:47) Question: Jason references a poetic line from the book—“Dogs too have endured and thrived beside us as we have beside them”—and asks about the soul-level pact humans made with dogs centuries ago. Elizabeth’s Insight: She describes this pact as rooted in “kindred respect” between two natural beings—humans and dogs—meeting with curiosity and a sense of safety. Historically, dogs helped humans hunt and find food, while humans offered warmth, companionship, and protection. This 50-50 exchange has evolved into a modern pact where humans strive to hear dogs’ voices and honor their wild essence. Practical Tip: Elizabeth encourages letting dogs spend time outdoors to stimulate their senses, a nod to their feral roots, enhancing the bond and their happiness.   The Five Elements: An Elemental Awakening (04:47 - 05:13) Jason’s Prompt: Quoting the book’s line about the Five Elements providing “X-ray vision” into a dog’s personality, Jason sets the stage for a deep dive into Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and Water, noting their dual role in understanding dogs and ourselves. Elizabeth’s Macro View: She frames the Five Element Theory as a 5,000-year-old, nature-based “mindful guidance system” fostering compassion, empathy, and understanding across species. Rooted in her personal journey—finding solace in nature amid a challenging childhood—the theory connects behaviors to natural cycles, offering a lens beyond mere archetypes.   Exploring the Five Elements (05:13 - 39:09) 1. Wood Element: Spring and Growth (07:46 - 14:22) Overview: Associated with spring, Wood dogs are determined, purposeful “army sergeants” (e.g., Belgian Malinois, German Shepherds, Rottweilers) excelling as working dogs in military or police roles. Traits: Athletic, fearless, competitive, with a need for movement and direction. Their emotional default is anger, manifesting as aggression or frustration in dogs. Spiritual Angle: Jason probes the interplay of energies when Wood dogs’ growth isn’t guided. Elizabeth explains their energy seeks movement; without clear boundaries, they take over, reflecting a need for humans to lead with presence and heart-centered direction rather than force. Practical Tip: Set consistent boundaries and offer gentle praise (“good dog”) to channel their potential, avoiding overstimulation with excessive rewards.   2. Fire Element: Summer and Joy (14:22 - 22:32) Overview: Fire dogs embody summer’s joy, acting as magnetic “divas” (e.g., Golden Retrievers, Border Collies with red hues) who thrive on social connection and adoration. Traits: Charismatic, playful, prone to separation anxiety, with barking and licking as their sense expressions (tongue). Their emotional default is “disturbance of the Shen” (panic, anxiety) when overstimulated. Spiritual Angle: Fire’s heart-centric nature leaves lasting impressions, reflecting humanity’s draw to fire for warmth and memory-making. Elizabeth shares how these dogs linger in people’s hearts long after they’re gone. Practical Tip: Ground yourself and use the Yin Tang acupoint (between the eyebrows) to calm their heart fire, restoring balance during anxiety spikes.   3. Earth Element: Late Summer and Nurturing (22:32 - 24:50) Overview: Earth dogs, tied to late summer, are quintessential caregivers (e.g., Labs) who love family, kids, and routine, offering gentle, nurturing energy. Traits: Kind, generous, slow-moving, with a knack for service roles like Reading with Rover or disease detection. Their emotional default is worry or obsession. Spiritual Angle: Mirroring Earth’s role in sustaining life, these dogs caretake unconditionally, teaching humans reciprocity with nature. Practical Tip: Maintain a peaceful, routine-based home to meet their need for stability and comfort.   4. Metal Element: Autumn and Purpose (24:50 - 28:22) Overview: Metal dogs, autumn’s purposeful “librarians” (e.g., Jack Russells), are intelligent, driven, and inflexible, excelling in search and rescue with their strong noses. Traits: Methodical, reserved, with a deep need for purpose and trust. Their emotional default is grief, especially after loss. Spiritual Angle: Reflecting metal’s mined rigidity, they teach precision and loyalty, challenging humans to earn trust through consistency. Practical Tip: Provide quiet recovery spaces and purposeful tasks (e.g., hiking, scent work) to honor their drive.   5. Water Element: Winter and Wisdom (28:22 - 39:09) Overview: Water dogs, winter’s empathic shapeshifters, embody wisdom and sensitivity, often rehomed due to visceral fear (e.g., Labs in a broader sense, but defined by behavior, not breed). Traits: Deep, quirky, reflective, with hearing as their sense and a tendency to mirror human fears. Many, like Elizabeth’s Pretzel, have traumatic starts. Spiritual Angle: Jason asks about fear and wisdom’s alchemy. Elizabeth shares how water dogs’ fear drives growth, reflecting karmic wounds (e.g., her own fearlessness turned off, now relearned). They push humans to face inner fears for mutual healing. Practical Tip: Offer patience, quiet presence, and trust-building to help them adapt, recognizing their role as spiritual teachers.   Preparing for a Soul Bond with a Dog (39:09 - 44:18) Question: Jason asks how to spiritually prepare for meeting a dog and ensure a soul bond beyond superficial attraction. Elizabeth’s Advice: Be Present and Grounded: Quiet the mind, feel your feet, and breathe to let your heart—not brain—lead. Heart as Voice: Process through the heart first, then let the mind follow   Links: Purchase the book: ElizabethAnneJohnson.com/books Watch Elizabeth’s TEDx Talk: Four Life Lessons from Our Old Dogs Websites: ElizabethAnneJohnson.com | 4LeggedWellness.com Instagram: @5elementdogs Facebook: ElizabethJohnson4Leggeds | Profile LinkedIn: 4LeggedWellness    

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