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Lab Rat Foiler Podcast

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Lab Rat Foiler Podcast
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  • 025_Patrick Rebstock: Exploring the World of Downwinding with the Parawing
    In this conversation, Patrick Rebstock shares his journey from traditional board sports to downwinding and now into parawinging. He discusses the importance of safety, understanding local geography, and the differences between groundswell and windswell. Patrick emphasises the need for preparation and knowledge of conditions to ensure a successful and safe downwinding experience. We discuss the intricacies of foiling, particularly focusing on the techniques and skills required for effective downwinding with a parawing. We explore the importance of understanding energy dynamics in the ocean, the process of packing down the parawing, and the role of the paddle in enhancing the downwind experience. The discussion also touches on the selection of appropriate boards for different conditions and the future of parawinging as a sport. Thank you for coming on and sharing all your knowledge mate! I’m sure people will learn heaps from this chat! #Parawing #Foiling #Podcast
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  • 024_Jon McCabe: Inside the Parawing Revolution: Gear, Flow, and Ultimate Freedom on the Water
    In this episode, I talk with Jon McCabe, one of Maui’s most experienced multi-sport foilers, to unpack his evolution in Parawinging — from his roots in kiting to the cutting-edge gear shaping where the sport is heading. Jon and I dive deep into advanced Parawing techniques, gear setup, and the fine-tuning that helps you get the most out of your foil, board, and bar system. We talk about mastering the stow and throw, finding flow state on the Parawing, and why this discipline feels like the ultimate blend of kiting, winging, and foiling. We also break down some of the most important lessons for advanced riders — including how to dial in your Parawing setup for better control and power, the best approaches for downwind foiling and wave riding, and how to experiment with line lengths, bar configurations, and gear tuning for optimal performance. Jon shares his experience comparing Ozone, BRM, and other leading Parawing systems, highlighting what makes each one unique. Throughout our chat, we explore what it takes to find true flow state on the water, balance power and glide, and unlock more freedom and connection through advanced Parawing progression. Whether you’re chasing speed, precision, or smooth transitions in variable conditions, this episode is full of insights that will help you take your riding to the next level. This was one of my favourite interviews as it felt like a catch-up with a good mate. Thanks for coming on Jon! #Parawing #Foiling #Podcast
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  • 023_James Casey: What is The Easiest Way to Start Downwinding? Parawinging vs Winging vs SUP vs FoilDrive
    In this episode, I sit down with James Casey to explore the exciting world of downwinding and parawinging. James shares his journey from different water sports into foiling, we dive into the emergence of the parawing, its advantages for downwinders, and the unique dynamics of light wind sessions. We also cover important safety considerations and talk about the future of downwinding with parawings, making this a valuable conversation for anyone passionate about water sports. James discusses innovative techniques, self-sufficiency on downwind runs, and how foil selection impacts performance. He shares insights from recent races and reflects on where power winging is headed as a community-driven sport. Throughout our conversation, we compare learning how to downwind on the parawing verses other disciples such as winging, SUP and foil drive. What comes out of this might surprise you! Thanks for coming on James. It was great to finally get this podcast done and I look forward to continue to follow your evolution in this sport! #Parawing #Foiling #Podcast
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  • 022_Kyle Maligro: Creativity and fun on the Parawing
    In this episode of the Lab Rat Foiler Podcast, we sit down with ex-pro bodyboarder, lifelong ocean frother, and now dedicated parawinger Kyle Maligro. From growing up in Hawaii chasing waves on a boogie board, to a long career on the professional bodyboarding scene, Kyle has lived his life in the water. These days, he’s channeling that same passion into the world of parawinging, with unmatched creativity and stoke. We dive into Kyle’s journey from the early days of prone foiling (and the brutal wipeouts that came with it), to the discovery of wing foiling, experimenting with gear, and eventually finding the parawing as the tool that opened up new levels of freedom and fun. Kyle shares stories about the first prototypes he tried, the sessions that shaped him, and the wild experiments that only true innovators are willing to attempt. Expect plenty of laughs, tales from Hood River and Rufus downwind runs, gear insights on small boards and sinker starts techniques, and real conversations about what makes foiling such a unique community-driven sport. Whether you’re just getting into it or you’re deep into parawinging, this episode is packed with relatable stories, hard-earned lessons, and inspiration to keep pushing. Thanks for coming on Kyle and I can’t wait to bump into you around the world to share more parawing sessions! Check out his shortless session at Rufus: https://youtu.be/-WfulKQVxWA?si=oZTVT46D2wGPI6xu
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  • 021_Brandon Scheid: Step by step Process to Succeed on the Parawing
    In this conversation, I sit down with Brandon Scheid to explore his journey through the world of water sports, including kiteboarding, paragliding, and his newly discovered passion for parawinging. We discuss the challenges he faced after a life-altering accident, his recovery process, and how foiling played a crucial role in his healing. The conversation also dives into the evolution of parawinging, his insights on getting into the sport the right way, and the importance of setting yourself up for success, understanding gear, and overcoming the challenges beginners often face. He emphasizes the significance of choosing the right wind conditions, the flow state experienced during parawinging, and the innovations needed to enhance the experience for riders. Throughout the conversation, Brandon inspires listeners to embrace challenges and find joy in the journey of learning and mastering new skills. If you want to be inspired by this legend’s life story watch the trailer for his documentary WIND_FALL: https://vimeo.com/1032261938?fl=pl&fe=vl I learned so much from him—both on a personal level and through his experience in extreme sports. Thanks for sharing your story, brother.
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Lab Rat Foiler is not just a podcast; it’s a movement toward embracing a culture of innovation and creativity in foiling. The athletes we interview are continuously pushing the boundaries of foiling, and through their stories, we aim to inspire others to take risks, experiment, and become Lab Rats in this foiling experiment.
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