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We — along with other Baihua contributors — will take turns writing. Subscribe here: https://baihua.substack.com/ If you can't open the URL above, leave your email address here: https://wj.qq.com/s2/25773709/59ax/ 【聊了什么The What】 这期节目是vibe shift三部曲的最后一集——在酝酿了很久以后，我们终于找到了一个适合开启的角度——“匮乏”。这里的匮乏不仅仅指经济指标上的衰退（如好莱坞罢工、票房崩溃、生活成本危机），更指向一种集体心理状态：对美好未来的想象力丧失了。 当“信心”消失，欲望就变成了苦涩的愤怒和嘲讽。我们聊到了韩国电影中为了生存系统性谋杀竞争对手的失业男主，聊到了好莱坞自由主义叙事的全面崩塌，以及 Gen Z 为何不再相信《哈利·波特》式的英雄主义。在这样一个极化、原子化、被算法裹挟的时代，我们该如何寻找解药？答案或许在于做一些“低效”但具体的事情，比如给邻居送菜，比如慢慢地讲一个故事。 This episode is the final installment of our “Vibe Shift” trilogy. After circling the theme for a long time, we finally found the right entry point: scarcity. Scarcity here doesn’t only refer to economic downturns — Hollywood strikes, collapsing box office numbers, or the cost-of-living crisis. It points to something deeper: a collective psychological state in which the imagination of a better future has eroded. When confidence disappears, desire curdles into resentment, sarcasm, and anger. We talk about a Korean film in which an unemployed man systemically eliminates his competitors just to survive. We discuss the collapse of Hollywood’s liberal narrative framework. We explore why Gen Z no longer believes in Harry Potter–style heroism. In an era defined by polarization, atomization, and algorithmic manipulation, how do we find an antidote? Perhaps the answer lies in doing things that feel inefficient but concrete — bringing vegetables to a neighbor, telling a story slowly and carefully. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 什么是“匮乏感”？它不只是缺钱，而是对未来失去信心。当希望消失，欲望会转化为愤怒和犬儒。 05:30 从《无路可逃》和《爱丁顿》说起。当资源紧缩，他人变成路障。传统“供养者”男性叙事在现代系统中崩塌。 12:11 自由主义叙事开始失效。观众厌倦好莱坞的说教，《The Studio》揭示的是文化工业的瘫痪与精英脱节。 23:36 代际断裂。为什么 Gen Z 对《哈利波特》那种九十年代式的乐观主义越来越无感，Gen Z 成长于极化与停滞之中，不再相信善恶分明的世界。 36:00 我们开始怀旧：布拉德·皮特和《F1》是一个典型例子，电影构建了一个没有政治争议、只有输赢规则的世界。传统男性气概重新被召唤。你爹还是你爹。这种叙事满足了人们对确定性的渴望，也提供了一种逃避复杂现实的方式。 47:50 性别角色回潮。《爱情盲选》和 tradwife 现象反映了在极化时代中对安全感的表演式追寻。 55: 50 AI 并未带来连接，反而放大分裂，我们开始怀疑“科技救世”的神话。《神奇四侠》中的技术乐观主义不复存在。 1:23:30 西方社会 生活成本危机加剧匮乏感。算法利用焦虑制造争吵，社交网络赛博巴尔干化是什么？ 1:35:30 结语 拒绝犬儒，从具体行动开始。真实的连接或许是对抗虚无的唯一方式。 00:00 What is “scarcity”? It’s not just financial lack, but a loss of faith in the future. When hope disappears, desire turns into anger and cynicism. 05:30 We begin with No Other Choice and Eddington. As resources shrink, other people become obstacles. The traditional male “provider” narrative collapses within the modern system. 12:11 The liberal narrative loses its grip. Audiences are exhausted by Hollywood moralizing. The Studio exposes paralysis within the cultural industry and its detachment from ordinary life. 23:36 A generational rupture. Why Gen Z no longer connects with 1990s optimism like Harry Potter. Raised amid polarization and stagnation, they no longer believe in a morally clear world. 36:00 We turn to nostalgia. Brad Pitt and F1 serve as a key example. The film constructs a world without political conflict — only winners and losers. Traditional masculinity is revived. “Daddy is still daddy.” It satisfies a longing for certainty and offers escape from complexity. 47:50 The return of gender roles. Love Is Blind and the tradwife phenomenon reflect a performative search for safety in a polarized age. 55:50 AI did not bring connection; it amplified division. We begin to question the myth of technological salvation. The technological optimism of Fantastic Four no longer holds. 1:23:30 The Western cost-of-living crisis deepens scarcity. Algorithms exploit anxiety and manufacture endless conflict. What does cyber-Balkanization of social networks mean? 1:35:30 Conclusion. Reject cynicism and begin with concrete action. Real human connection may be the only antidote to nihilism. 【拓展链接 The Links】 阿花： Beyond the Machine: Creative agency in the AI landscape Personal canon by Celine Nguyen Remaking Liberalism: The Past, Present, and Future of Freedom by Daron Acemoglu and Simon Johnson 配图：从1998年开始的价格变化 影视/剧集： 电影《无路可逃》(No Other Choice / The AX) 电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington) 电影《F1》 电影《神奇四侠》(Fantastic 4) 剧集《The Studio》 真人秀《爱情盲选》(Love is Blind) 剧集《Abbott Elementary》 书籍/人物/概念： Daron Acemoglu (经济学家) Hanif Abdurraqib (作家/诗人) Tradwife (传统家庭主妇风潮) Cyber-Balkanization (赛博巴尔干化) Identity Politics (身份政治) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. 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感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机！ 点击专属购买链接 【聊了什么The What】 实在是不好解释，把图放在这里大家自己体会吧。 IYKYK 【时间轴 The When】 01:32 - 重大发现——12月末是星期天晚上（虽然发节目的时间已经到了一月底，请别介意） 05:43 - 年度总结框架 06:58 - 卧槽：政治极化坟墓上跳舞的Eddington 9:56 - 我操我不行了：A Simple Accident 11:22 - 可以可以：电影Sorry Baby 15:29 - 可以可以：在西湖喝茶 22:33 - 我不行了：日语学不下去 26:15 - 我不行了：补课罗马史 35:24 - 卧槽我不行了：韩娱饭圈 40:28 - 卧槽我不行了：那不勒斯四部曲 43:46 - 卧槽可以可以：今年看过的一些非虚构 45:38 - 我操我不行了可以可以：戛纳电影节 47:38 - 我不行了可以可以：2025 年看山河故人别有风味 54:58 - 我操我不行了可以可以：Chichu Art Museum和James Turrell的艺术 66:22 - 我操我不行了可以可以：简中“反清复明”阴谋论宇宙 68:25 - 我操我不行了可以可以：西非舞 75:44 - 我操我不行了可以可以：医疗剧 The Pitt 01:32 – Major discovery: late December feels like Sunday night (even though the episode drops in late January—please don’t mind us) 05:43 – Year-end recap framework 06:58 – Holy Shit: Eddington — dancing on the grave of political polarization 09:56 – I can’t with this: A Simple Accident 11:22 – Okay okay okay: Sorry Baby 15:29 – Okay okay okay: drinking tea at West Lake 22:33 – I can’t with this: Japanese is no longer happening 26:15 – I can’t with this: crash-course on Roman history 35:24 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: K-pop fandom culture 40:28 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this: The Neapolitan Novels (the four-book series) 43:46 – Holy Shit, okay okay okay: some nonfiction reads from this year 45:38 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Cannes Film Festival 47:38 – I can’t with this, okay okay okay: watching Mountains May Depart in 2025 hits differently 54:58 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: Chichu Art Museum & the art of James Turrell 66:22 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the Simplified-Chinese internet’s “Restore the Ming Dynasty” conspiracy universe 68:25 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: West African dance 75:44 – Holy Shit, I can’t with this, okay okay okay: the medical drama The Pitt 【拓展链接】 小杨 Sorry Baby It’s just an accident The Pitt 小蓝 Ulysses Everyday is for the thief Intermezzo 那不勒斯四部曲 Ailey Studios的西非舞传奇老师 一芳 Strike, Labor Unions, and Resistance in the Roman Empire Careless People MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios 阿花 西方文化的传统与演进 Rome Cleopatra 万历十五年 山河故人 🎉【听众专属福利】 感谢金主妈妈Tims咖啡机！ 一机三用：胶囊 / 意式 / 美式自由切换，工作日效率 & 周末仪式感全拿下 18 秒速热 + 1 分钟出杯：告别排队，随时来杯好咖啡 专业级萃取：预浸泡＋精准控温，油脂更厚、风味更稳 小巧便携：露营、办公室都合适 充插两用 ：续航久，静音安全，用得安心 无论自用还是过年过节送给爱咖啡的朋友入门，都是非常实用的选择。现在领取节目专属优惠，还能额外叠加平台优惠和限时国补福利，到手更划算，店内下单还送咖啡分仓、胶囊仓、压粉勺以及送Tims门店同款咖啡胶囊！ 点击进入专属购买链接： 淘宝：https://mo.m.tmall.com/page/36896811?shop_id=514425481&item_id=964840038255 京东：https://pro.m.jd.com/mall/active/fo1WF7YzJTMBkifnugBJKS4J9se/index.html 复制淘口令：77￥LFTnU7rWjpb￥ / MF937 淘宝搜索：“TimHortons〞 找到【TimHortons小家电旗舰店】向客服报暗号“疲惫娇娃“即可获得专属链接！ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 这期节目，我们聊了新片《Hamnet》：一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事，并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃（或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上），聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。 我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗？还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧？把女性与自然、草药、预言、女巫气质连在一起，是一种温柔的赋权，还是另一种更古老的陷阱？艺术究竟是在表演痛苦，还是在替人类提供一种“活下去的解释”？归根结底，在2025年重拍莎士比亚是很需要勇气的；赵婷交出的答卷你们满意吗？ In this episode, we discuss our favorite nepo baby Chloé Zhao’s new feature film Hamnet, adapted from the novel of the same name by Maggie O’Farrell. We explore why it can make you cry uncontrollably (or not cry at all and still fall deeply in love with it), and how its mystical, symbolic filmmaking evokes a Greek tragedy-like catharsis. It is hard not to draw comparison with Wifedom, which we’ve talked about in the past. Is this yet another story of a literary giant draining the life out of the women around him? Or is it a timeless tragedy that transcends context to speak to the eternal human questions of life and death? When women are linked with nature, herbs, prophecy, and witch-like qualities—is it a gentle form of empowerment, or an older, more insidious trap? Is art merely performing pain, or is it offering humanity a way to keep going? Ultimately, remaking Shakespeare in 2025 takes courage—did Chloé Zhao deliver? 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:22 《Hamnet》、演员阵容、TIFF 口碑 00:04:46 四个女的的初印象（以及不同的哭晕程度） 00:13:37 文学巨擘背后被隐身的女人：与《Wifedom》的文脉相通 00:21:10 除了审判隐身的丈夫，或许我们还能讲点别的故事 00:29:18 自然叙事：女性/土地的连结与争议 00:37:16 Le Guin、女巫叙事与男权结构的回声 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”：没看懂也没关系 00:59:50 结尾的半圆镜头：为什么人类要讲故事 01:06:16 “人生三苦”：理解痛苦不等于失去情感 00:02:22 Chloé Zhao’s Hamnet, cast, and TIFF reception 00:04:46 First impressions from four women (and varying levels of emotional breakdown) 00:13:37 The invisible woman behind the literary giant: connections to Wifedom 00:21:10 Beyond judging the hidden husband—maybe there are other stories we can tell 00:29:18 Nature narratives: the contested link between women and land 00:37:16 Le Guin, witch storytelling, and echoes of patriarchy 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”: it’s okay if you don’t understand it 00:59:50 The final half-circle shot: why humans tell stories 01:06:16 The “three sufferings” of life: understanding pain doesn’t mean feeling less 【拓展链接 The Links】 Hamnet: A Novel of the Plague Hamnet Book Club Wifedom The New Yorker对赵婷的采访 Oh Brother! The Jupes Get Shakespearean 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 本期节目，我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森（Paul Thomas Anderson）很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去，真香着出来”的年度惊喜，也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发，探讨暴力革命的伦理困境：当“妇人之仁”成为罪行，对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价？Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄，还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性？Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面，是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义？ For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés. Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid? 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象 10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”？ 22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨：电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”？ 31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄？ 54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗？ 58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义 67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺 78:47 结局：这也能大团圆 00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions 10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing? 22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”? 31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero? 54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma? 58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday 67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism 78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending? 【拓展链接 The Links】 Liberalism in Dark Times: The Liberal Ethos in the Twentieth Century The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt Vineland 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022

【聊了什么The What】 本期节目，小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”，聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异，而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈，已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。 但同时，KATSEYE也代表着K-pop全球扩张战略“质变”的一个成功样本——HYBE和Geffin Records强强联手不仅是韩美资本的一场盛大联姻，更是一个将K-pop工业化造星体系移植到美国本土的庞大实验。我们跟随着出道纪录片《Popstar Academy》，见证这场巨大的“楚门秀”如何将活生生、充满棱角的女孩们锻造成精美的商品。在这套精密运作的资本逻辑下，“人”与“商品”的边界变得模糊，友谊、梦想与自我认同被撕裂，作为娱乐献祭给全球观众。从成员选拔中无法掩盖的地缘政治与种族“拼色游戏”，到闵熙珍与HYBE的冲突所揭示的平台垄断与创作者困境，我们探讨K-pop这套“反人性”却极致高效的体系在全球复制时，究竟是在输出文化，还是在输出一套更精密的规训与控制？ In this episode, Xiao Lan and Xiao Yang dive into KATSEYE, the international K-pop girl group that's completely hooked us. This six-member group debuted to chart success and broke into the mainstream with hyperpop single "Gnarly." They radiate a chaotic, meme-able charm—"the prettiest mean girls who are also ride-or-die for you"—that feels more relaxed and subversive than previous girl groups. But KATSEYE also represents K-pop's global expansion "qualitative shift." The HYBE and Geffen Records collaboration transplants K-pop's industrialized star-making system onto American soil. Their Netflix documentary Popstar Academy was a "Truman Show" forging strong personalities into polished products, where the line between "person" and "commodity" blurs. From market-driven diversity in member selection to Min Hee-jin's conflict with HYBE exposing creator struggles, we ask: is K-pop exporting culture—or a sophisticated apparatus of exploitation and control? 【时间轴 The When】 02:32 - 04:55 - KATSEYE 是个什么样的女团？ 04:55 - 10:49 - Gnarly歌曲制作中加入不雅声音引发的巨大争议，行业应该如何对待未成年偶像 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE成员台上和台下的反差魅力，“发疯”的Gen-Z女团来整顿韩娱了 13:30 - 18:47 - 纪录片《Popstar Academy》的“楚门秀”式选秀、K-pop严苛的训练体系如何与美国文化碰撞 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon的角色弧光与争议：不努力是偶像最大的原罪吗？ 28:31 - 45:19 - 选秀的残酷本质、地缘政治与种族配额：国籍、市场等因素如何决定谁能出道 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE x Geffen资本联姻背后的商业模式、全球扩张野心 53:37 - 59:19 - NEWJEANS 的官司里闵熙珍与HYBE的争议是创新、复制与控制权的根本矛盾 59:19 - 69:54 - K-pop的造星方法论走向世界的过程中会去芜存菁吗？ 02:32 - 04:55 - Who is KATSEYE? The Korean-American entertainment powerhouse deal behind the group 04:55 - 10:49 - The "Gnarly" controversy: Why explicit sounds in the track sparked massive backlash 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE's duality: How this "unhinged" Gen-Z girl group is disrupting K-pop norms 13:30 - 18:47 - Popstar Academy's reality TV manipulation and K-pop's brutal training system meets American culture 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon's journey and the backlash: Is "not trying hard enough" the ultimate idol crime? 28:31 - 45:19 - Beyond talent: How geopolitics, racial quotas, and market appeal really determine who debuts 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE × Geffen: Unpacking the business strategy and global ambitions 53:37 - 59:19 - The NewJeans conflict: Innovation vs. imitation and the battle for creative control 59:19 - 69:54 - Can K-pop's factory system evolve as it goes global—or will it just export the same problems? 【拓展链接 The Links】 The fued between Min Hee-Jin (NJZ) and HYBE, a timeline "Gnarly" MV KATSEYE 的综艺（Warning: 很吵） ”Machine Girl“ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022