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    Anthropic's Chief on A.I.: ‘We Don’t Know if the Models Are Conscious’

    12/2/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    A.I. is evolving fast, and humanity is falling behind. Dario Amodei, the chief executive of Anthropic, has warned about the potential benefits — and real dangers — linked to the speed of that progress. As one of the lords of this technology, is he on the side of the human race?
    01:37 - The promise and optimism of A.I.
    12:59 - White collar "bloodbaths"
    25:09 - Robotics and physical labor
    30:16 - The first “dangerous” scenario
    42:22 - What if it goes rogue?
    48:01 - Claude’s constitution
    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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    Why Ending Roe Wasn’t Enough for the Pro-Life Movement

    05/2/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    Nearly four years after Roe v. Wade was overturned, where is the pro-life movement setting its sights? That’s what I wanted to know from the activist Lila Rose. We spoke last month in front of a live audience at the Catholic University of America. We debated whether her cause was prepared for the fall of Roe and whether abortion still matters at all to the right. 
    01:55 - Live Action and undercover activism
    05:53 - Pro-Life 101 and S.L.E.D.
    13:36 - “The mistake of feminism”
    17:02 - Pro-family policy
    22:47 - The political landscape after Roe 
    42:35 - The pro-life movement beyond politics
    47:39 - The medical “zone of uncertainty”
    53:53 - Why should women be pro-life?
    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
    Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times with Ross Douthat.

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    ‘Trump Has Lost the Country’

    04/2/2026 | 3 mins.
    I want to say something that few conservatives will admit right now: Donald Trump has lost the country. The coalition he assembled to defeat Kamala Harris has evaporated, and his aggressive agenda — never mind his legacy — won’t survive if Republicans can’t win the next election.
    Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times with Ross Douthat.

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    A Plan to Restore Trust in Science From a ‘Fringe Epidemiologist’

    29/1/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    If you want to understand how Robert F. Kennedy Jr. became the face of American public health, you have to go back to the Covid era. Medical authorities spoke with certainty: Trust the science. Don’t listen to skeptics. But a lot of people stopped trusting experts entirely when outsiders got some things right and the establishment got some things wrong. Now those outsiders are in charge, like my guest this week. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is the director of the National Institutes of Health. I wanted to know: Can an outsider restore trust in public health institutions without undermining trust even more?
    02:11 - How the “fringe epidemiologist” came to be
    08:18 - What went wrong while “crushing COVID-19”
    15:18 - “The responsibility of public health leaders”
    28:42 - Reforming public health and the NIH
    42:52 - Three areas of controversy plaguing public health
    1:00:52 - Success metrics
    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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    Jamelle Bouie and I Debate Trump’s Failing Grade

    25/1/2026 | 40 mins.
    President Trump’s aggressive return to the White House has been disruptive in ways that will continue to reshape American — and global — governance and politics for decades. At a live event with the Library Foundation of Los Angeles, I joined my colleague Jamelle Bouie and our boss, the Opinion editor, Kathleen Kingsbury, to break down the first year of Trump 2.0. This conversation originally aired as an episode of “The Opinions.”
    (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
    Thoughts? Email us at [email protected]. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times with Ross Douthat.

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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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