The Being Formed Podcast

In this special dual-release episode, The Being Formed Podcast welcomes Jessica Vangsnes, host of the Transforming Us podcast, for the first of a two-part conversation exploring pilgrimage, attachment, and the slow work of spiritual formation.

Jessica is a certified trauma-informed relationship coach, group facilitator, and the visionary behind Transforming Us. Integrating a rich background in ministry, soul care, Gottman 7 principles facilitation, and the Enneagram in relationships, Jess guides individuals and couples away from internal division and toward sacred wholeness with Christ.

Her work is forged in the fire of her own need for wholeness. For 18 years, she and her husband, Travis, have navigated the beautiful, complex terrain of marriage, foster care, adoption, and caregiving. It was through her own profound seasons of pain and personal healing that Jess discovered her calling: helping others tend to the shadowy places of their souls.

Today, Jess lives in South Carolina with Travis and their five children, ages 7 to 20. Jess views every person as a unique reflection of God’s image. Believing that true healing is a collaborative process with Jesus, she helps people unearth subconscious patterns and name attachment wounds, bridging practical psychological tools with spiritual formation.

Part One of our two-part conversation focuses a bit more on Adam's story - from discovering spiritual direction and walking the Camino de Santiago to the lessons learned about trust, embodiment, and the transforming love of God. Along the way, Adam and Jessica explore how the Enneagram, attachment theory, and the ministry of presence can help us move from striving to abiding, from performing for God to walking with Him as a beloved friend.

In this episode:

Jessica's journey into spiritual formation and soul care

Lessons from walking the Camino de Santiago

Pilgrimage as a way of life

Anxious attachment and discovering God's loving gaze

Friendship, presence, and spiritual companionship

Learning to live in the easy yoke of Jesus

Part Two continues the conversation by exploring more of Jessica's story, her journey into attachment work and relational transformation, and the ways God has shaped her through coaching and the Enneagram.

Connect with Jessica Vangsnes and Transforming Us:
https://transformingus.org

If this conversation encourages you, consider subscribing to The Being Formed Podcast, leaving a review, and sharing the episode with someone who could use a fellow pilgrim on the journey.

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

Adam Ormord (LifePoint Resources) sits down with author, worship leader, coach, and spiritual director Becky Ykema to discuss her new book.

After more than two decades serving in churches ranging from church plants to one of the largest churches in the country, Becky began noticing subtle patterns shaping ministry culture. Those observations became her new book, Composing Church: Considerations for the Modern Creative Leader.

While written with worship leaders and creative teams in mind, this conversation reaches much further, exploring the formation of ministry leaders, the culture of our churches, and the invitation to become people who lead from authenticity rather than performance.

Whether you're a pastor, worship leader, volunteer, elder, or someone who simply longs for a healthy ministry culture, we believe you'll find encouragement and hope in this conversation.

In this episode, we discuss:

• What it means to "compose" a church culture.
• The subtle pressures ministry leaders often carry.
• Performance versus presence.
• How church culture shapes the souls of those who serve.
• Henri Nouwen's timeless warnings about relevance, spectacle, and power.
• How spiritual direction has further shaped Becky's understanding of leadership.

Resources Mentioned:

Composing Church: Considerations for the Modern Creative Leader (by Becky Ykema)

Connect with Becky:

www.beckyykema.com

Thanks for listening to The Being Formed Podcast. If this conversation encouraged you, consider sharing it with someone who loves the Church and longs to see her become more like Christ.

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

What if the deepest truth about you is not what you do, what you believe, or even what you have accomplished, but that you were created for relationship?

In this solo episode, Adam Ormord explores the idea that we are, at our core, relational souls. Drawing from the work of Richard Plass and James Cofield, Todd and Elizabeth Hall, Trevor Hudson, Henri Nouwen, and others, Adam reflects on the transformative power of loving relationships and why trust sits at the heart of spiritual formation.

Along the way, he shares personal stories of God's faithfulness, explores the difference between knowing about God and knowing God relationally, and invites listeners to consider what it means to live as God's beloved.

Whether you find yourself longing for deeper connection, wrestling with trust, or simply seeking a more experiential relationship with God, this conversation offers a timely reminder that transformation happens in the context of love.

In This Episode

What it means to be a "relational soul"

The difference between informational knowing and relational knowing

Why trust is central to spiritual formation

How loving relationships shape our ability to love God and others

The connection between attachment, belovedness, and transformation

Hospitality, presence, and the ministry of spiritual direction

Learning to receive God's love more deeply

The invitation to come home to the Father

The Sacred Way Community (LifePoint's Cohort-Learning Community)

Books and Resources Mentioned

The Relational Soul — Richard Plass & James Cofield

Relational Spirituality — Todd Hall & Elizabeth Hall

Seeking God — Trevor Hudson

Reaching Out — Henri Nouwen

The Life We're Looking For — Andy Crouch

A Reflection Question
Where in your life might God be inviting you to move from simply knowing something about Him to experiencing it more deeply through trust?

Closing Thought
"Perhaps the deepest invitation of the spiritual life is learning to come home - home to the God who sees us, delights in us, and has never stopped watching the horizon for our return."

The Being Formed Podcast is a Soul Care Ministry of LIfePoint Resources.

What if Jesus is always moving toward us, offering us friendship and love, but we've lost the ability to notice?

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord sits down with Dale Gish, founder of The Ignatian Center, spiritual director, retreat leader, and guide of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius.

Drawing from a recent pilgrimage through Spain, Dale shares stories from visiting significant locations in the life of Ignatius of Loyola, including Montserrat and Manresa. Along the way, he reflects on the transformative power and enduring wisdom of the Spiritual Exercises, and why Ignatian spirituality continues to resonate with so many people today.

Together, Adam and Dale explore the life of Ignatius and the invitation to discover God's presence in the ordinary moments of daily life. They also discuss the growing interest in the 19th Annotation of the Exercises and how this accessible pathway allows people to journey deeply with Jesus while remaining fully engaged in everyday responsibilities.

Whether you're new to Ignatian spirituality or have been walking this path for years, this conversation offers a thoughtful introduction to a tradition that has helped countless people cultivate a more attentive, discerning, and relational life with God.

 

In this episode, you'll hear:

Dale's reflections from leading an Ignatian pilgrimage through Spain

A brief introduction to the life and conversion of Ignatius of Loyola

An introduction to the 19th Annotation of the Spiritual Exercises

Examples of how imaginative prayer draws us closer to our friend, Jesus

Opportunities to engage with The Ignatian Center and upcoming training cohorts

 

About Dale Gish

Dale Gish is the founder of The Ignatian Center, a ministry devoted to helping people encounter God through the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius. He is a spiritual director, retreat leader, and experienced guide of the Exercises. Through teaching, training, retreats, and pilgrimage experiences, Dale helps individuals and groups cultivate deeper attentiveness to God, greater discernment, and a more intimate relationship with Jesus.

 

Resources & Links

The Ignatian Center: https://www.theignatiancenter.org

Connect with Dale and learn more about upcoming cohorts, webinars, and training opportunities through The Ignatian Center.

 

Reflection Question

Where do you sense yourself on the journey with Jesus right now, and what invitation might be waiting for you in this particular stretch of the road?

 

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

What does it look like to walk with Jesus in a way that is relational, intentional, and deeply transformative?

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam is joined by spiritual director and retreat guide Kim Van Natta for a conversation about a new initiative from LifePoint Resources called the Sacred Way Community.

Together, they explore the growing hunger many people are experiencing for a more relational and experiential life with God, especially in a cultural moment marked by exhaustion, disillusionment, disconnection, and spiritual uncertainty. They discuss the difference between merely learning about God and learning how to be with God, and why intentionally small, immersive, and formational communities can become sacred spaces of healing, growth, and transformation.

Adam and Kim also unpack the vision and rhythm behind The Sacred Way Community, an 18-month cohort journey centered around relational spiritual formation, shared retreats, contemplative practices, and authentic community.

This conversation is an invitation to slow down, listen deeply, and consider where God may be inviting you into deeper formation and a more sustainable way of following Jesus.

In This Episode

Kim’s personal journey into spiritual formation and relational discipleship

Why transformational growth happens best in authentic community

The growing spiritual hunger beneath disillusionment and deconstruction

What we mean by “The Sacred Way”

Relational spirituality and secure attachment with God

Why retreats and immersive experiences matter

The difference between information-based learning and transformational knowing

What spiritual transformation actually looks like in everyday life

Why slower, smaller, and more intentional communities matter right now

Personal reflections on being with Jesus and becoming people of love

About Kim Van Natta
Kim Van Natta is a spiritual director, Ignatian retreat guide, and the founder of Transforming Experiences. Her work centers on helping people cultivate deeper awareness of God’s presence through spiritual direction, contemplative practices, creation-based experiences, and relational spiritual formation.

Kim is helping lead the development of The Sacred Way Community and will serve as the first Director of this new initiative through LifePoint Resources.

The Sacred Way Community
The Sacred Way Community is an 18-month journey of relational spiritual formation designed for those longing for a deeper, slower, and more authentic life with God.

The journey includes:

Seven retreats over 18 months

Ongoing relational connection and spiritual companionship

Contemplative practices and guided formation

Space for honesty, discernment, healing, and transformation

A community-centered approach to becoming more deeply rooted in the love of God

Our first cohort is scheduled to begin in September 2027.

To receive updates and learn more as plans continue to unfold, visit: LifePoint Resources or email: swcLifePoint Resources

Reflection
As you listen to this conversation, where do you sense an invitation toward deeper formation in your own life? What has been stirring in you?

Connect with LifePoint Resources
The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources, a nonprofit ministry devoted to making soul care accessible to all. Through spiritual direction, retreats, webinars, and formational community, we help you cultivate a deeper, more sustainable life with God. www.lifepointresources.org

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