The Being Formed Podcast

What sustains a leader over time?

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord (Founder and President of LifePoint Resources) sits down with retired Navy chaplain and author Gregory Woodard to explore the inner life of leadership. Drawing from years of experience in ministry and the military, Greg shares how leadership that lasts is not built on competence alone, but on a life that is rooted, attentive, and formed from within.

Together, they explore the drift many leaders experience - remaining effective on the outside while becoming disconnected, isolated, and unhealthy on the inside - and why so many leaders struggle to finish well.

Greg introduces a framework of four essential rhythms - relational, spiritual, emotional, and physical—that help leaders cultivate a more sustainable and integrated life.

This conversation moves from Greg’s personal story, to practical insights for leaders today, and ultimately to the deeper invitation of becoming the kind of person who leads from the soul.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear

Greg’s journey from Navy chaplaincy into a new season of spiritual formation

Why leadership often becomes disconnected from the inner life

The hidden cost of burnout, isolation, and unprocessed emotion

The four rhythms that sustain healthy leadership: relational, spiritual, emotional, and physical

Why emotional awareness is essential - not optional - for leaders

How identity and calling unfold over time, rather than being quickly discovered

What it means to “finish well” in leadership

Simple, meaningful steps toward cultivating a life of leadership from within

About Greg Woodard
Greg Woodard is a retired Navy chaplain who served for over two decades, walking alongside individuals and leaders in some of life’s most challenging and formative moments.

He is the author of Leadership from Within: Navigating the Path Toward Soul-Driven Success, a book that invites leaders to cultivate a sustainable and integrated life through intentional rhythms of soul care.

Learn more: www.gregwoodard.com

Key Themes

Leadership begins beneath the surface

Formation over performance

Integration of the inner and outer life

Paying attention to the soul as a leadership practice

Sustainability and finishing well

Reflection
As you listen, you might take a moment to notice:

Where in your life are you leading from the outside in… rather than from within?

And gently consider:

What might it look like to pay attention to your soul - not to fix anything, but to be present to God there?

Resources & Links

Leadership from Within: Navigating the Path Toward Soul-Driven Success – Greg Woodard

Stop Chasing Work-Life Balance: Four Rhythms for Sustainable Leadership Integration - Greg Woodard

Connect with LifePoint Resources
The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources, a nonprofit ministry devoted to making soul care accessible to all. Through spiritual direction, retreats, webinars, and formational community, we help individuals and leaders cultivate a deeper, more sustainable life with God. www.lifepointresources.org

Share the Episode
If this episode resonated with you, consider sharing it with a friend, colleague, or leader who might be carrying more than they realize.

What if your life with God isn’t meant to stay in your head?

In this conversation, Adam sits down with spiritual director and author Deborah Gregory to explore what it means to experience God not just in our thoughts, but in our bodies, our movement, and the ordinary rhythms of daily life.

Drawing from her new book Spiritual Wayfinding, Deborah invites us into an embodied spirituality that integrates attentiveness to God with the wisdom of the body and the realities of how we are actually formed.

Together, they explore how walking can become a form of prayer, how our nervous systems shape our awareness of God, and how practices of movement and attention can open us to deeper discernment.

This conversation offers a timely invitation to become more present, to lift our eyes and our gaze, and to begin noticing God in places you may have overlooked.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear

Deborah’s personal journey into embodied spirituality

How relearning to walk reshaped her understanding of life with God

The connection between Ignatian spirituality and embodied awareness

How the body and nervous system influence our experience of God

Why walking can be a powerful form of prayer and discernment

The role of neurodivergence in expanding our understanding of spiritual formation

Simple ways to begin practicing awareness of God in your everyday life

A Simple Invitation
As you finish this episode, consider taking a walk.

Notice your body.
Notice your surroundings.
Notice what’s happening within you.

And ask:
“God, where are You in this moment?”

About Deborah Gregory
Deborah Gregory is a spiritual director specializing in Ignatian spirituality, an award-winning documentary filmmaker, and the host of The Betwixt Podcast. Her holistic approach to Christian formation bridges ancient wisdom and modern neuroscience, helping people experience God through both body and soul.

Drawing from her experience in a neurodiverse family, Deborah is passionate about cultivating an inclusive spirituality that honors the wisdom of the body and supports those navigating a neurotypical world.

She leads retreats, trains spiritual directors, and lives in Central Florida with her husband and two daughters.

Resources & Links

Spiritual Wayfinding by Deborah Gregory: Purchase on Amazon

Deborah Gregory's website: https://www.flourishspiritualdirection.com/

The Betwixt Podcast

About The Being Formed Podcast
The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources. It is a space for honest, thoughtful conversations about spiritual formation, leadership, and the interior life. Hosted by Adam Ormord, Co-founder and President of LifePoint, each episode invites listeners to slow down, pay attention, and participate more fully in the life of God.

In this episode, Adam sits down with Anne Richardson, author of Not Alone and a trauma-informed spiritual director, for a thoughtful and honest conversation about trauma, shame, and the slow work of healing.

Anne shares from her own story, including a pivotal season that led her into deeper healing through therapy, spiritual direction, and contemplative practices with God. Together, Adam and Anne explore the impact of sexual trauma, the difference between truth and toxic shame, and what it means to rediscover God’s presence in places that once felt unsafe.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear

How shame takes root and distorts identity

The difference between truth and toxic shame

Anne’s personal journey of healing through the “desert”

The role of silence, solitude, and contemplative prayer

How anger, grief, and the body are part of the healing process

What it looks like to rebuild trust with God, yourself, and others

The importance of safe people and compassionate presence

What healing and freedom can look like over time

A Word for Listeners
This episode touches on themes of trauma. While no graphic details are shared, you may notice something stirring as you listen. You are invited to go at your own pace. You can pause, step away, or return later. You are in control of how you engage with this conversation.

Resources & Next Steps

Not Alone by Anne Richardson: Purchase on Amazon

Anne Richardson’s website: https://www.annemarierichardson.com

Learn more about LifePoint's Webinar on April 28, 2026: Accompanying Survivors of Sexual Trauma

Connect with LifePoint Resources

Website: https://www.lifepointresources.org

Spiritual Direction, Formational Mentoring, Retreats, and other Soul Care offerings

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

What if the wilderness isn’t something to escape… but the place where faith is actually formed?

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord is joined by author, coach, and teacher Dustin Kleinschmidt to explore the deeper realities of the spiritual life, especially for those who feel disillusioned, tired, or unsure where God is in the middle of it all.

Dustin brings a rare kind of honesty shaped by decades of pastoral ministry and his own lived experience with burnout, anxiety, disappointment, and the eventual unraveling of expectations. Together, they talk about what happens when doing “everything right” doesn’t lead where we thought it would, and how the wilderness may not be a detour, but the very place where God meets us.

This conversation doesn’t offer sound-bite answers or quick resolutions. Instead, it offers something more needed: companionship, language for what many feel but struggle to name, and permission to walk with God in the tension.

If your faith has ever felt more like wandering than arriving, you’re not alone.

In This Episode, We Explore:

Why the wilderness is not just a season, but the terrain of the spiritual life

What happens when faithfulness doesn’t lead to clarity or relief

The hidden cost of expectations in ministry, leadership, and everyday life

Burnout, anxiety, and disillusionment in Christian spaces

The difference between honest faith and performative spirituality

How to resist spiritual bypassing and make room for emotional honesty

What it means to experience God’s presence without immediate answers

Finding language for the tensions we carry but often can’t articulate

The important role of a safe community as we navigate the wilderness

About Dustin Kleinschmidt
Dustin Kleinschmidt is a longtime pastor and the author of The Wilderness Way. Over the past twenty-five years, he has served in nearly every pastoral role - from student ministry to lead pastor to church planter - giving him a unique perspective on the realities of ministry and faith.

Shaped by both personal struggle and firsthand experience of the challenges within church leadership, Dustin writes and speaks for those who feel spiritually homeless, disillusioned, or exhausted by the pressure to have it all together. His work offers an honest, grounded invitation to follow Jesus in the tension of real life.

 A Simple Reflection
Take a few moments in quiet and consider:

Where does your life feel unresolved right now?

What expectations - spoken or unspoken - are shaping how you interpret this season?

What would it look like to notice God’s presence here, without needing to change anything?

You might pray:

“God, meet me here.
Not when this is over…
but here, in the middle of it.”

Resources & Links

The Wilderness Way by Dustin Kleinschmidt: 

Dustin’s website: https://www.dustinkleinschmidt.com/

Follow Dustin on Substack: https://www.dustinkleinschmidt.com/

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.

In this episode of The Being Formed Podcast, Adam Ormord sits down with Dr. Dave Janvier, a licensed professional counselor, certified clinical trauma professional, sex therapist, and spiritual director. Dave is the founder of SIIMDA Soul Care, a ministry that integrates trauma therapy, neuroscience, and spiritual formation to help people experience deeper healing and wholeness.

Together, they explore what it means to be trauma-informed in the ministry of soul care. Rather than offering quick solutions or spiritualizing pain, trauma-informed approaches invite patience, safety, and deep listening, recognizing the ways trauma lives in our bodies, our relationships, and even in our experience of faith.

In this conversation, Dave helps us understand how spiritual direction can become a safe place for the soul, where wounds are gently acknowledged, and healing can begin to unfold at a compassionate pace.

Whether you are a spiritual director, pastor, caregiver, or someone seeking healing in your own life, this conversation offers wisdom, hope, and practical insight into the sacred work of healing from the inside out.

Adam and Dave discuss:

What it means to be trauma-informed in spiritual care

How trauma affects our bodies, relationships, and experience of God

The importance of safety, consent, and compassionate presence in soul care

Why spiritual direction can be a powerful space for healing

How neuroscience and spiritual formation can work together in the healing journey

The role of patience and gentle listening in accompanying wounded

Dr. Dave Janvier is a Licensed Professional Counselor, Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, Certified Sex Therapist, and Spiritual Director. He is the founder of SIIMDA Soul Care, where he provides trauma-informed counseling, spiritual direction, and training for those seeking integrated healing of body, mind, and spirit.

His work brings together clinical insight, neuroscience, and spiritual formation to help individuals and leaders experience deeper levels of healing and wholeness.

Resources:

Visit SIIMDA Soul Care to learn more: https://www.siimdasoulcare.com/

Dr. Dave's Substack: https://drdavejanvier.substack.com/

The Being Formed Podcast is a soul care ministry of LifePoint Resources.