The Book Deal

Hosts Tina Strachan and Natasha Rai catch up. Natasha shares being highly commended for a Varuna fellowship (amid 812 entries), explains Varuna as the National Writers’ House in Katoomba, and discusses upcoming copy edits for The Bride Price, preparation for Melbourne’s QLit Festival, and a four-hour “complicated characters” workshop at Hunter Writers Centre on 25 July. Tina describes a quieter month with school-holiday outings, catching up on admin, and reflecting on daily writing habits via Stephen King’s 2,000-words-a-day routine. They discuss promotional book boxes, including a Penguin Random House box for Shara Curlett’s middle-grade fantasy Protector of Beyond (out in September), and what authors might include in their own. They also unpack a Guardian article arguing Australia is publishing too quickly, talk shelf-life realities, the role of community and independent booksellers, and offer practical promotion ideas. They highlight NSW “Stories Matter” fellowships ($50,000; closes 27 July) and The Wheeler Centre’s The Next Chapter (stipend and mentorship; closes 31 July), and end by encouraging writers to keep writing for joy.

00:00 Podcast intro and hosts
00:56 Catch-up and Varuna news
02:07 What is Varuna
04:42 Edits festivals and workshop prep
06:25 Tina holiday reset
08:08 Stephen King writing habit
12:18 Back to routine and topics
12:40 Promotional book boxes
16:34 DIY book box ideas
18:10 Guardian debate too many books
19:13 Too Many Books Debate
20:39 Readers Bookstores Squeeze
21:07 Rose Red Bookshop Hope
22:12 Community Over Commodity
26:24 Shelf Life Three Months
28:35 Bookseller Reality Check
29:24 Tips Readers And Writers
31:38 Keep Books Selling Longer
36:07 Remember Why You Write
37:47 Fellowships And Grants
39:51 Final Writing Pep Talk
41:11 Podcast Farewell Outro
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Kayte Nunn is the bestselling author of nine novels, including The Botanist’s Daughter, The Forgotten Letters of Esther Durrant, The Silk House and The Last Reunion. Kayte grew up in England and the US, before moving to Australia. She has had a diverse career working in publishing, editing, and magazines, including as the former editor of Gourmet Traveller WINE magazine.
Madeleine chats with Kayte about writing the book that calls to you, how to be disciplined and resilient, switching lanes and genres (even when you are a bestseller and have a 'brand', and lots of tips for good routines and writing. And of course we discuss Kayte's latest twisty new novel, The Yacht,  a page-turning crime thriller set on a superyacht in Mallorca.
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THE YACHT
A man on the edge.
A woman hell-bent on revenge.
A cheating husband.
A desperate wife.
A property empire on the brink of collapse.
A family at loggerheads.
A predator hiding in plain sight.
Who will sink and who will swim?
Three generations of a billionaire family are taking their new superyacht on its maiden voyage. But when the yacht sinks, each of them has a different part to play, in this addictive, twist-filled thriller.
Check out The Yacht here.
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Kayte recommends reading The Emotional Craft of Fiction: How to Write the Story Beneath the Surface by Donald Maass. 
Our Debut in the Spotlight this week is The Picasso Ransom by A.T Prewett.
Thank you to HarperCollins Australia for sponsoring this episode.
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Tina Strachan interviews author Sarah Clutton about her new novel ‘The Bookshop of Buried Pasts’. Clutton outlines the story of antiquarian book dealer Phyllida Banks, who disappears and leaves her granddaughter Lottie to run their Southern Highlands bookshop and find a man named Francis, leading to a Cambridgeshire mystery tied to an unsolved 50-year-old crime, family secrets, spirituality, and threads of witches and Celtic mythology across 1960s–70s timelines. She discusses the setting’s inspiration from Berrima and Australia’s first “book town” region, the showstopping cover design, and the title’s evolution. Clutton shares research experiences, including a death doula course and travel to English manor houses, Devon’s Clovelly, Scotland, and Shetland, and offers advice to aspiring authors: take craft courses and become open to critique.
 
00:00 Podcast Intro
00:56 Meet Sarah Clutton
01:39 New Book Overview
03:38 Southern Highlands Setting
06:10 Book Town Inspiration
06:49 Cover Art Breakdown
10:47 Title Origins
14:10 Death Doula Research
21:06 Phyllida Character Themes
22:54 Stalking Idea Process
24:33 Trusting the Draft
26:05 Travel As Research
27:03 Themes Of Agency
28:41 Hunting Manor Houses
29:44 Clovelly Village Magic
33:33 Scotland Estate Access
35:08 Mythology DNA Witchcraft
38:32 Daily Writing Reality
39:43 Drafting Through Discomfort
44:30 Tips For Aspiring Authors
46:27 Late Start Publishing Journey
51:17 Wrap Up And Farewell 
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Tina, Madeleine and Natasha catch up and discuss:
Natasha's successful workshop on creativity and the nervous system, and how to get the most from creative flow. 
Natasha's title of her second book (!)
All things small business: accounting, expenses, BAS, GST, mileage, super, income averaging, receipts. We go into the nitty gritty of running your own author business.
Please do your research and always seek professional financial advice. Our listeners recommended the below specialist accountants for writers:
Real Thiel
Kylie Thompson at Sorrento Strategic
Matthew Tucker from Creative Crunchers
This week's Debut in the Spotlight is Disgraceful (Simon & Schuster, 2026) by Rachel Fox McLeod.
00:56 We catch up
01:39 Natasha's workshop chat
11:08 Tina is tinkering
18:19 Natasha reveals her second book title!
27:17 Debut in the Spotlight
28:24 The business behind the books
31:26 Accounting
35:26 Recording travel
42:48 GST, BAS And invoicing
46:27 Income Averaging and ABNs
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Tina Strachan children's book author
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Madeleine Cleary | Author
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