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  • 2024 Nuffield Report - Changing the Bog-Standard; repeatable solutions for Aotearoa’s Peatlands
    In this episode, Sarah Perriam-Lampp speaks with Nuffield Scholar Jenna Smith about her research into managing peatlands to reduce emissions while maintaining productive land use. Travelling through Europe and the UK, Jenna explored wetland farming and highlighted sphagnum moss as a promising opportunity for New Zealand. Guest: Jenna Smith, Nuffield Scholar and CEO of Pouarua Farms, based in the Hauraki Plains Host: Sarah Perriam-Lampp, CEO and Editor-in-Chief, Country-Wide Jenna Smith, a 2024 Nuffield New Zealand Scholar and CEO of Pouarua Farms, explores how Aotearoa can better manage its peatlands to reduce emissions, protect low-lying farmland, and maintain economic productivity. Her report advocates for a pragmatic, landowner-led approach that focuses on rehabilitation—slowing degradation—rather than full restoration to pristine peatland, which is often unfeasible. She would like to see better peat mapping, tighter drainage rules, and a focus on rehabilitation over full restoration. With flux towers now collecting emissions data on Pouarua Farms, Jenna hopes to drive awareness and support iwi-led, practical solutions that balance environmental and economic outcomes. Through international travel across Europe and the UK, Smith studied “paludiculture”—commercial wetland-compatible land uses. She highlights sphagnum moss as a standout option, with strong export potential as a sustainable growing substrate already in demand globally. She argues New Zealand could replace imports and generate new value from re-wetted peatland. Smith is also advancing research at home, partnering with Manaaki Whenua and NZAGRC to install flux towers that measure real-time greenhouse gas emissions from various land uses, including dairy, cropping, and blueberries. This data is essential to inform decisions and track climate outcomes. Her report calls for more accurate peat mapping, stricter controls on drainage and cultivation, and realistic assessments of which peatlands can be viably rehabilitated. She emphasises the need to protect lands that aren’t too far degraded, while avoiding costly restoration attempts on sites beyond recovery. With Pouarua Farms operating at or below sea level, Smith sees the urgency of slowing subsidence. She also highlights the value of iwi-led co-governance and regional planning that understands the specific challenges of peatland farming. While not a scientist, Smith aims to spark informed discussion and spotlight emerging opportunities. Her Nuffield experience underscored the complexity of the challenge—but also the importance of asking the right questions, engaging early, and shaping solutions that work for both the land and the people who depend on it. Read Jenna’s Nuffield report here. Subscribe to Country-Wide magazine for $79/year for four seasonal magazines including free postage annually: https://country-wide.co.nz/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE COUNTRY-WIDE WEEKLY EMAILSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • Beef Country - Kaiwara Angus: Balanced genetics for commercial success
    In this episode, Jo Scott speaks with George and Penny Johns of Kaiwara Angus. They discuss breeding structurally sound, resilient bulls for dryland systems, with type and functionality prioritised alongside data. The pair highlight the importance of matching genetics to farming systems, managing milk for fertility, and balancing phenotype with performance to deliver practical, commercially relevant cattle. Guests: George Johns, Farm Owner, Kaiwara Angus Penny Johns, Marketing/Administration, Kaiwara Angus Host: Jo Scott, Genetic Specialist, Targeted Breeding Kaiwara Angus is built on two decades of practical breeding by George and Penny Johns, with a clear focus on structural soundness, maternal ability and resilience under commercial hill country conditions. The herd is selected for type first, then balanced with data, ensuring bulls are both functional and appealing to the eye, while delivering reliable performance. George and Penny emphasise the importance of diversity within the Angus breed, believing that no one bull suits every system. They encourage commercial farmers to align breeding objectives with the environment, and value bulls that thrive in dryland conditions while maintaining fertility and longevity. Milk EBVs and 200-day weights are managed carefully to ensure growth doesn’t come at the expense of herd efficiency. Early-calving cows are prioritised, with a strong focus on first-cycle fertility. The couple note that climatic variability and dryland profitability remain key challenges, making adaptability and cow efficiency critical. They also see value in bulls that balance phenotype with figures—animals that look the part, are structurally correct, and also carry the data to back it up. For George and Penny, the ideal is a bull that ticks both boxes: something that stands up visually in the paddock but also drives performance and profitability through the herd. Kaiwara Angus bull sale: 13 June 2025, 11:00amAmuri Plain, Kaiwara Homestead Road, 163, Amuri Plain 7391 Find out more and RSVP on their website below:https://www.kaiwarafarm.com/ Subscribe to Country-Wide magazine for $79/year for four seasonal magazines including free postage annually: https://country-wide.co.nz/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE COUNTRY-WIDE WEEKLY EMAILSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • 2024 Nuffield Report - Coding for Change: Navigating adoption of gene editing in the New Zealand primary sector
    In this episode, Sarah Perriam-Lampp talks with Nuffield Scholar Rachel Baker about her research into the potential future of gene editing in New Zealand’s primary industries which formed the basis of her 2024 Nuffield scholarship. Rachel explored how New Zealand could responsibly adopt the technology while protecting its global reputation. She highlights international models, like Norway’s, and sees early potential in horticulture. Emphasising transparency, trade alignment, and inclusivity, Rachel believes gene editing should be farmer-led and value-driven—supporting innovation while respecting consumer choice and the diverse values across New Zealand’s food and fibre sectors. Guest: Rachel Baker, Nuffield Scholar Host: Sarah Perriam-Lampp, CEO and Editor-in-Chief, Country-Wide Rachel Baker, a 2024 Nuffield New Zealand Scholar, explores how gene editing could enhance the resilience and competitiveness of Aotearoa’s food and fibre sectors—if introduced through thoughtful, well-calibrated regulation. In her report she advocates for a balanced approach that both protects New Zealand’s global brand and embraces the benefits of scientific advancement. Baker’s international research took her across North America and Europe, where she assessed how different countries regulate gene editing and GM technologies. She highlights Norway’s case-by-case approach as a standout—one that considers not just scientific safety but broader impacts such as environmental outcomes, social acceptance, and trade implications. Though more demanding to implement, this model aligns closely with New Zealand’s values around transparency, trust, and integrity. She sees near-term potential for gene editing in permanent horticulture—such as apples and bananas—with traits like disease resistance and shorter breeding cycles. These applications could reduce inputs and unlock premium export markets. Pastoral innovations, like low-emissions ryegrass or nitrogen-fixing clovers, may take longer but offer transformative environmental benefits. Baker also points to opportunities in licensing clean agricultural technologies, positioning New Zealand as an IP exporter, not just a commodity producer. Maintaining access to key markets, she argues, will require robust traceability systems, clear labelling, and early engagement with trade partners. It's vital that organic and GE-free sectors retain space to operate and that regulation remains accessible to businesses of all sizes. Ultimately, Baker believes adoption must come from the ground up. She urges farmers, growers, exporters, and regulators to collaborate openly, ensuring gene editing delivers practical value while respecting cultural and commercial priorities. Her Nuffield experience reinforced the urgency of adapting to global shifts—and the importance of shaping New Zealand’s response on its own terms. Read Rachel’s Nuffield report here. Subscribe to Country-Wide magazine for $79/year for four seasonal magazines including free postage annually: https://country-wide.co.nz/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE COUNTRY-WIDE WEEKLY EMAILSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • 2024 Nuffield Report - Beyond the farm gate: Rethinking New Zealand’s economic future
    In this episode, Sarah Perriam-Lampp interviews Nuffield Scholar Carlos Bagrie about New Zealand’s economic future beyond agriculture and tourism. Carlos highlights the need for long-term planning and diversification to address the limits of mature industries. Drawing on global experiences, he urges building new value streams and deeper collaboration across sectors. Carlos calls for a national conversation on New Zealand’s identity and a 25- to 50-year vision, aiming to inspire bold, innovative solutions that ensure sustainable prosperity for future generations. Guest: Carlos Bagrie, Nuffield Scholar Host: Sarah Perriam-Lampp, CEO and Editor-in-Chief, Country-Wide Carlos Bagrie is a Nuffield New Zealand Scholar whose work focuses on reimagining New Zealand’s economic future beyond its traditional reliance on agriculture and tourism. In his report, Beyond the Farm Gate: Rethinking New Zealand’s Economic Future, Carlos highlights the need for long-term, strategic planning to diversify the economy as current primary industries reach maturity and face diminishing returns. Drawing from global examples—including agribusiness in Brazil and innovation-driven economies in Europe—he advocates expanding New Zealand’s economic base by developing new industries and adding value closer to market. Carlos stresses the importance of building a more resilient economy by creating new “pillars” alongside agriculture and tourism, which have historically underpinned the country’s prosperity. His Nuffield journey broadened his outlook beyond farming, exposing him to diverse political, cultural, and environmental contexts worldwide. A memorable experience in Zimbabwe, assisting with wildlife conservation, deepened his appreciation of how economic and ecological systems intertwine. Carlos encourages a national conversation about New Zealand’s direction over the next 25 to 50 years, calling for bold, collaborative thinking across sectors. He sees his role as igniting discussion—from media to everyday conversations—around the country’s identity and future opportunities. Ultimately, Carlos warns that incremental improvements won’t suffice; New Zealand must embrace innovative, long-term strategies to secure prosperity for future generations. Read Carlos’ Nuffield report here. Subscribe to Country-Wide magazine for $79/year for four seasonal magazines including free postage annually: https://country-wide.co.nz/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE COUNTRY-WIDE WEEKLY EMAILSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • Beef Country - Te Mania: Performance, progress and the future of Angus
    In this episode, Jo Scott speaks with Will Wilding of Te Mania Angus. Will shares how their herd structure balances maternal strength with innovation in terminal and dairy-focused genetics. He explains a new AI tender system replacing stud transfers, designed to prioritise commercial buyers and share value. Will also discusses finishing their own calves to validate genetics, the importance of weighing for growth, and growing demand for performance-proven cattle. Guest: Will Wilding, Managing Director, Te Mania Angus Host: Jo Scott, Genetic Specialist, Targeted Breeding Te Mania Angus is focused on delivering balanced, commercially relevant genetics, with Will Wilding highlighting the stud’s emphasis on maternal strength, structural soundness and performance. The herd is run under commercial pressures, with selection ensuring only functional, fertile females remain. US performance sires are used strategically, bringing traits like calving ease, IMF and growth without compromising replacement quality. The breeding programme is split between properties, allowing the main herd to focus on maternal traits while another unit explores terminal, dairy and efficiency-focused lines. Will says that this structure supports innovation while maintaining a strong maternal base. In a significant shift, Te Mania has removed stud transfers from its sale to prioritise commercial clients. Instead, AI access is offered via tender, with proceeds shared between the stud and the bull’s new commercial owner. This change enhances data linkage and ensures wider access to elite genetics. Te Mania also finishes its own progeny, validating breeding decisions and identifying top-performing lines. Will sees growing value in genetics-led store stock selection and hopes industry tools like Steer Select will help drive greater transparency. With 130 bulls catalogued for the 18 June sale, Te Mania offers a structurally sound, even team backed by practical breeding and a strong commercial focus. Te Mania Angus bull sale: Wednesday June 18th 2025 1:00pm Te Mania Saloon Bar Find the catalogue and more information through their website here: https://www.temania.co.nz/sales-events Subscribe to Country-Wide magazine for $79/year for four seasonal magazines including free postage annually: https://country-wide.co.nz/shop/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE COUNTRY-WIDE WEEKLY EMAILSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Bringing' you the best of rural New Zealand for nearly 50 years via your mailboxes, now it’s time for our seasonal stories from the magazine to weekly updates straight to your ears. Proud to celebrate the grit and the smarts it takes to farm as well as good ol' fashioned country culture with The Country-Wide Podcast. Hosts: Sarah Perriam-Lampp - CEO & Editor-in-Chief at CountryWide Media For more information & to subscribe to Country-Wide, visit www.country-wide.co.nz
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