Host Nigel Grant is joined by Jessica Palalagi, Director of The Arts Foundation Te Tumu Toi and Amehl Smith, ASB's Head of Private Banking and lead for the bank's new partnership with the Foundation, to explore another type of investing that extends far beyond markets and portfolios - the investment in art, creativity, and people. They explore why ASB chose to back the Foundation, what makes investing in artists different to funding a specific project, and the surprising parallels between building an art collection and building a portfolio. Jessica also shares practical ways anyone can start supporting the arts, no matter their budget, and why simply showing up might be the most powerful investment of all.