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Making Cents

Frances Cook
Making Cents
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    The mortgage mistakes that cost you years of your life, with Mortgage Man Aaron Cattell

    08/2/2026 | 45 mins.
    There is a lot of mortgage advice out there that is confidently wrong.

    And the cost of following it isn’t just money, it’s time. Sometimes years of your life spent under pressure you didn’t actually need.

    In this episode of Making Cents, we’re cutting through the biggest mortgage myths that trip people up both before they buy a home and long after they’ve signed the papers.

    From “cleaning up” bank statements and chasing the lowest interest rate, to misunderstood rules around deposits, credit scores, extra repayments, and offsets, this is the stuff that sounds smart on paper, but can cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars over time.

    Mortgage Man Aaron Cattell is a mortgage adviser on the front lines, working with real borrowers, real numbers, and real lending rules, and he’s ready to let you peek behind the curtain.

    We break down:

    What banks actually care about when approving a mortgage (and what they don’t)

    Common mortgage-ready myths that no longer apply in New Zealand

    Why loan structure matters more than chasing the cheapest interest rate

    The simplest ways to cut years off your mortgage, without needing a windfall

    When extra repayments, lump sums, offsets, or revolving credit actually make sense

    The tactics that sound clever, but Aaron would ban tomorrow

    If you’re buying your first home, refixing soon, or just want more control over the biggest debt most people will ever take on, this episode will help you avoid mistakes that quietly steal time from your future.

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    This podcast was filmed & produced by Fanaticals

    Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne

    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:02:37 Meet Aaron Kital: the mortgage man on the front lines
    00:04:00 Busting the deposit myth: you don't need 20 percent
    00:05:30 The clean bank statements myth and what banks actually care about
    00:09:25 Auctions, valuations, and the first-time buyer obstacle course
    00:12:40 Is buying your own home actually a good investment?
    00:15:00 Myths from overseas: credit scores and payment frequency
    00:19:03 Should you pay off your mortgage early or invest elsewhere?
    00:23:48 Three ways to smash your mortgage faster
    00:26:06 Offset accounts and revolving credits: when they work and when they don't
    00:34:42 Fixed versus floating: why structure beats interest rates every time
    00:41:24 When mortgages keep you awake at night: hardship options
    00:43:43 The easy win: one simple change that saves years
    00:44:14 Outro
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    How to fix your finances in February before you fall off the wagon

    05/2/2026 | 8 mins.
    If you're feeling the February slump and wondering how to get back on track without starting from scratch, this one's for you!

    A replay of Frances Cook's column for 1 News, read here with permission, on 7 science-backed ways to get your money back under control.

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    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    7 mental traps to avoid when you’re investing

    04/2/2026 | 13 mins.
    This episode was originally part of the Market Memo newsletter, where you learn about sharemarket investing every week. You can subscribe to that, here https://marketmemoweekly.substack.com/

    It’s never been easier to start investing. And that’s both brilliant, and part of the problem.

    Between constant headlines, market swings, hot takes on social media, and apps that let you trade with a swipe, investing has turned into a psychological minefield.

    Now, for most people, the biggest risk to their money isn’t the market. It’s their own brain.

    In this episode of Making Cents, it’s the seven common mental traps that trip investors up.

    We’ll cover:

    Why losses hurt so much more than gains (and what that makes people do)

    How herd behaviour and FOMO sneak into otherwise sensible decisions

    Why sticking to what feels familiar can cost you real growth

    The mental shortcuts that make short-term noise feel more important than long-term plans

    And the simple systems that help emotions stop driving the car

    This episode isn’t about suppressing your feelings or becoming some emotionless investing robot.

    It’s about understanding how your brain works, and putting smart guardrails in place so it doesn’t sabotage your future.

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    Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne

    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:02:18 Loss aversion: the pain hits harder than the pleasure
    00:03:31 Overconfidence bias: the 'I can time the market' illusion
    00:05:21 Herd behavior and FOMO: when everyone's buying, beware
    00:07:13 Home bias: comfort can cost you
    00:08:31 Confirmation bias: the echo chamber effect
    00:09:39 Recency bias: thinking yesterday predicts tomorrow
    00:10:48 Present bias: the 'now' trap
    00:12:19 Wrapping up: stop emotions from driving the car
    00:13:00 Outro
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    How to build wealth like the 1% (on a normal income)

    01/2/2026 | 45 mins.
    If you’ve ever wondered what’s actually going on behind the scenes of the 1%, beyond the headlines, Instagram posts, and glossy business profiles, this episode pulls back the curtain.

    Because beneath the public image of wealth is usually a highly deliberate money strategy. And it doesn’t have to be exclusive to the ultra-rich.

    In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook speaks with Andrew Clements, a private wealth and succession lawyer who works with some of New Zealand’s wealthiest families. Andrew spends his days helping high-net-worth and ultra-high-net-worth clients build wealth, protect it, and stop it being blown up by one bad decision, whether that’s an investment mistake, poor structure, or family conflict.

    What he’s learned may surprise you.

    We talk about:

    How wealthy families think in decades, not years

    Why protecting money often matters more than chasing returns

    The “guardrails” the wealthy put around their money, and their families

    Why the rich often sell when others are rushing in

    The risks that don’t show up on balance sheets, including family and succession risk

    How downturns are treated as opportunity, not panic

    And which wealth strategies are realistic for everyday NZers to copy

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    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:02:13 Meet Andrew Clements: private wealth and succession lawyer
    00:03:39 Money talks, but wealth whispers
    00:04:25 Values over dollars: what wealthy families actually prioritize
    00:08:19 The long game: how the wealthy build and protect assets
    00:09:44 The Lithuanian entrepreneur who didn't get greedy
    00:12:38 Investing in yourself: the best investment you can make
    00:18:43 Philosophy breeds methodology: finding advisors who understand you
    00:22:12 How the wealthy invest differently: shares over property
    00:27:24 Impact investing: making money and making a difference
    00:29:22 Family risk: how inheritance can become poison
    00:33:16 Beating the three-generation curse
    00:37:20 The hundred dollar note on the dinner table
    00:42:13 Can average people become wealthy? Yes, here's how
    00:44:39 Outro
  • Making Cents

    How to invest in the sharemarket in 2026 - WEBINAR REPLAY

    29/1/2026 | 51 mins.
    Everyone says you should start investing in the stock market, but how do you actually do that?

    Time for a quick roadmap to get you started. Whether you’re starting from scratch, or you’ve been investing for a while but you’re not sure you’re nailing it, this is the live session to help you feel like the confident investor you should be.

    With top industry experts

    -Kernel chief executive Dean Anderson

    -Stuff money editor Damian Venuto

    -Massey University Professor Claire Matthews

    As we answer questions live, we’re talking about what actually matters when investing in shares in 2026, how to get started without overthinking it, building a system that lets you keep investing no matter what, and getting under the hood of what’s happening in the sharemarket right now.

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About Making Cents

The podcast for people who want financial freedom, without giving up their coffee. That means it's time to make the money world make cents. Join Frances Cook, best-selling author and award-winning journalist, to talk about the proven ways to invest your way to financial independence, buy your first home, or just get your spending under control. Every Monday we have the week's feature interview, with someone who's done something interesting with their money. From paying off a mountain of debt, or investing for financial independence, or starting a new business, these are the ordinary people making the extraordinary possible. On Thursday we have Ask the Experts, where industry insiders answer your questions on the money world. From earning more in your career, to investing, or sticking to a budget, they'll help make money simple. Every now and then you'll get a bonus episode too, but the fun of those is that you never know when they're coming!
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