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How to Smash the Motherhood Penalty

How to Smash the Motherhood Penalty

Podcast How to Smash the Motherhood Penalty
Podcast How to Smash the Motherhood Penalty

How to Smash the Motherhood Penalty

Emma Mclean
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Working and having a family is hard. But what is really fatiguing is that it is only mothers that pay a penalty when they become parents. It is only mothers tha...
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Working and having a family is hard. But what is really fatiguing is that it is only mothers that pay a penalty when they become parents. It is only mothers tha...
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  • Mela Lush: Unlocking the Hidden Workforce
    If you have ever wished for a role that has hours that suit the caregiving responsibilities you have, then this episode is for you. We interview mother, social entrepreneur and founder of Jobs for Mums, Mela Lush. Mela is on a mission to help parents get work that works for everyone. Jobs for Mums is a social enterprise that connects parents and caregivers with flexible work opportunities in New Zealand. With a deep commitment to driving a movement for family-friendly work aligned with the UN Sustainable Development Goals, Mela is determined to smash the motherhood penalty one job at a time. Our conversation covers:A business born from the living room and out of the need for family friendly work. How the hidden workforce can solve $80 trillion global skills shortage.Why the Motherhood Penalty is the single biggest thing to hit your career. Part time work and how there can be perceptions that those who take this work on are somehow less committed. How it can be common to experience the thought of “I now have a job not a career”.Work systems and how jobs were architected were designed 100 years ago and they don’t work for any parent now – we need more innnovation.The importance of all parents lifting each other up. Re-thinking how you write job descriptions, whether roles could done with term time contracts, being open to flexibility, thinking about returnships (just like internships but for those that have had a career break) – a way to unlock hidden talent. Being an agitator for change by becoming curious with your employer and asking questions. Resources DiscussedBook Recommendation: “The Wife Drought” Annabel CrabbTo contact Mela and find out more about Jobs or Mums please use the links below: [email protected] https://www.instagram.com/jobs_for_mums_newzealand/Connect with EmmaThis podcast was funded by Works for Everyone, a business based in NZ and operating globally that supports working parents to stay in the leadership pipeline through coaching, workshops, and advocacy. Your host, Emma Mclean, is a mother of three teenagers, an Executive Coach and the Founder of Works for Everyone. Following a successful 25-year career in corporate marketing, Emma launched her business in 2019 to put a care wrap around working parents at the hardest time in their career. She is an ACC certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, the recipient of the 2022 Jaguar/Viva She Sets the Pace Community Grant, alumni of the 2021 NZ Leadership Programme, and a Swiftie (a lifelong Taylor Swift fan). To work with Emma or enquire about speaking – [email protected] www.worksforeveryone.co.nzhttps://www.instagram.com/worksforeveryone/https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-mclean-9176217/
    25/09/2023
    40:09
  • Tania Domett: Destabilising Caregiving Gender Norms
    When we become mothers, we can often be surprised at the changes that it creates in our lives and this episode is a great reminder of that. Tania Domett is an all-round legend and champion of mothers. She is an entrepreneur and as well as running Cogo a research agency she founded 10 years ago she is also a co-founder of Project Gender - a feminist innovation studio delivering radical change through insights research, campaigns, and products and services. Project Gender was recently instrumental in getting a National Women’s Health Strategy into legislation and now policy – after hearing from thousands of women across NZ about their challenges accessing healthcare and partnering with health professionals on a massive campaign.This episode was recorded before the pre-election policy announcements on paid parental leave (I feel like they must have heard our conversation) - bring it on!In our conversation, Tania shares her story and her experience of becoming a mother as well as solutions to smashing the motherhood penalty.How being a late bloomer is a beautiful thing – Tania’s first office job was at age 38. The joining of forces with Angela Mayer to create Project Gender to bring a gender lens to the 2020 election - You Choose 2020. They advocated for a National Women’s Health Strategy and now it is a formal policy. Saying yes to everything. Putting yourself out there. Even if it means hiding in the loos during networking events. How Motherhood is vastly different from Fatherhood. How a feminist can so easily become a 1950’s housewife when you become a mother. Why smashing the system needs part time roles that are seen as leadership roles and men need to be the targets for flexible working. Measuring the right things to close the gender gap – how many men taking flexible roles, how many men taking parental leave, etcHow on-site childcare and school holiday programmes help you by not hiding your identity as a working parent.How Paid Parental Leave for all parents helps to destabilise the gender norm of women as caregivers and men as providers. We are one of 3 countries in the world that do not have paid partner leave. If we had this – we would dismantle barriers right at the beginning of your family. Hope is not a strategy – action is! Connect with EmmaThis podcast was funded by Works for Everyone, a business based in NZ and operating globally that supports working parents to stay in the leadership pipeline through coaching, workshops, and advocacy. Your host, Emma Mclean, is a mother of three teenagers, an Executive Coach and the Founder of Works for Everyone. Following a successful 25-year career in corporate marketing, Emma launched her business in 2019 to put a care wrap around working parents at the hardest time in their career. She is an ACC certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, the recipient of the 2022 Jaguar/Viva She Sets the Pace Community Grant, alumni of the 2021 NZ Leadership Programme, and a Swiftie (a lifelong Taylor Swift fan). To work with Emma or enquire about speaking – [email protected] www.worksforeveryone.co.nzhttps://www.instagram.com/worksforeveryone/https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-mclean-9176217/
    18/09/2023
    30:29
  • Haylee Putaranui: Finding Connection With Each Other
    Haylee Putaranui (Ngāti Maniapoto, Te Aitanga-a-Hauiti, Ngāti Pahauwera) is Fonterra’s Pouhere, Director Māori Strategy. Prior to this she was the Global Lead for Diversity and Inclusion also at Fonterra. Becoming a Mum to Waiaria at 17 provided motivation to move through law school and into practise before joining Fonterra. Outside of mahi, Haylee has contributed to iwi governance roles and led parts of her iwi settlement with the Crown, a process which showed her from adversity and resilience can always come resolution and hope. This is episode is extra special and painted in bright colours – which is what you would expect when it comes to the fabulous Haylee. It is a conversation about the leadership we need for not just working parents but for everyone who loves and lives in this land. Haylee is one of the most generous people you will meet. Generous in spirt, generous in time and generous in wisdom. And it is all shared with a humour that will make you smile. We talk all things:Sharing other people’s names in rooms that they are not in.How success is about how you grow others. The link between foggy glasses and air con units. Why you need to think about when you hold your team meetings.How men have so much to gain by smashing this system.Being “othered” when you announce your pregnancyThe importance of asking our people “how are you and how can I support you?”Real talk on sleep deprivation.Elevating DEI roles so they can have impact.Making performance reviews work for working parents.And putting a care wrap around parents for 4 years – sign me up!Resources DiscussedCindy Gallop – recommended to follow on LinkedIn – “I urge women to not look just for mentors but more importantly to find champions – those people that make shit happen for you”.Connect with EmmaThis podcast was funded by Works for Everyone, a business based in NZ and operating globally that supports working parents to stay in the leadership pipeline through coaching, workshops, and advocacy. Your host, Emma Mclean, is a mother of three teenagers, an Executive Coach and the Founder of Works for Everyone. Following a successful 25-year career in corporate marketing, Emma launched her business in 2019 to put a care wrap around working parents at the hardest time in their career. She is an ACC certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, the recipient of the 2022 Jaguar/Viva She Sets the Pace Community Grant, alumni of the 2021 NZ Leadership Programme, and a Swiftie (a lifelong Taylor Swift fan). To work with Emma or enquire about speaking – [email protected] www.worksforeveryone.co.nzhttps://www.instagram.com/worksforeveryone/https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-mclean-9176217/
    11/09/2023
    46:47
  • Priscilla Chand: Financially Empowering Women
    In this episode, we interview Priscilla Chand, the founder of HIRE HER, a transformative digital talent and jobs platform for women. With over 250 successful job placements in 2 years and a growing community of 3,500 women, Priscilla is on a mission to forge a more inclusive and diverse workforce, bridging the gender gap one successful job placement at a time. Priscilla is a mother of two young girls and combines this role with her business and the goal of empowering women in the workforce. Our conversation is action packed, filled with passion and covers:Her lived experience growing up in a Fijian Indian family and the power of parents as role models for our children.The questions that arise when thinking of going back to work and the tough calls that you make. How being a parent makes you powerful as you return to work. How parents need part time roles at a senior level – and the lack of these roles. Making the pool of parents larger and weaving the middle layers with support.The importance of paid parental leave and flexibility for all. Thinking more innovatively about job design and job outcomes.The importance of building understanding and educating senior leaders on what it is like for working parents. And how Boot Camps for CEOs that reimagines the workplace could be the answer.Resources DiscussedTo contact Priscilla and get on board with HIRE HER please use the links below:[email protected]://www.instagram.com/gohireher/Connect with EmmaThis podcast was funded by Works for Everyone, a business based in NZ and operating globally that supports working parents to stay in the leadership pipeline through coaching, workshops, and advocacy. Your host, Emma Mclean, is a mother of three teenagers, an Executive Coach and the Founder of Works for Everyone. Following a successful 25-year career in corporate marketing, Emma launched her business in 2019 to put a care wrap around working parents at the hardest time in their career. She is an ACC certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, the recipient of the 2022 Jaguar/Viva She Sets the Pace Community Grant, alumni of the 2021 NZ Leadership Programme, and a Swiftie (a lifelong Taylor Swift fan). To work with Emma or enquire about speaking – [email protected] www.worksforeveryone.co.nzhttps://www.instagram.com/worksforeveryone/https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-mclean-9176217/
    4/09/2023
    31:50
  • Emma Mclean: Was It Ever Really a Choice?
    We need to talk about the Motherhood Penalty. A penalty that only mothers pay when they become parents. A penalty that can last a lifetime when it comes to salary, career, and retirement savings. And a penalty that I have personally experienced. This podcast series is going to talk about the Motherhood Penalty. It is going to shine a light on what it is, get curious about the system that creates it and talk to experts to get their ideas on how we can all smash it so that our children and their children never have to experience it. In this very first episode we set the stage for what is to come and dive into defining what the Motherhood Penalty is:Talking about the system we all work in, that does not value caregiving, does not work for any parents but only penalises mothers. How your career being penalised after you become a Mum can take you by surprise. Whether this is about choice or is it about lack of choice? Where is the innovation in job design for senior part time roles?The real pain point of childcare – the costs, inflexibility, and accessibility. The importance of paid parental leave for both parents. Resources Discussedhttps://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/careers/the-motherhood-penalty-becoming-a-mum-slashes-earnings-by-55pc-20221010-p5boh5https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/05/reduce-motherhood-penalty-gender-pay-gap/https://globalwomen.org.nz/the-motherhood-penalty/Connect with EmmaThis podcast was funded by Works for Everyone, a business based in NZ and operating globally that supports working parents to stay in the leadership pipeline through coaching, workshops, and advocacy. Your host, Emma Mclean, is a mother of three teenagers, an Executive Coach and the Founder of Works for Everyone. Following a successful 25-year career in corporate marketing, Emma launched her business in 2019 to put a care wrap around working parents at the hardest time in their career. She is an ACC certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, the recipient of the 2022 Jaguar/Viva She Sets the Pace Community Grant, alumni of the 2021 NZ Leadership Programme, and a Swiftie (a lifelong Taylor Swift fan). To work with Emma or enquire about speaking – [email protected] www.worksforeveryone.co.nzhttps://www.instagram.com/worksforeveryone/https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-mclean-9176217/
    3/09/2023
    15:21

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Working and having a family is hard. But what is really fatiguing is that it is only mothers that pay a penalty when they become parents. It is only mothers that pay an up to 60% salary penalty over the first five years of establishing their family. Only mothers that see their retirement savings penalised because of the caregiving requirements they are fulfilling. And only mothers that get sidelined in their careers because of the lack of quality part time roles. In this podcast we are going to get curious about the system that creates the motherhood penalty and curious about the solutions that are going to smash it. We will talk to some of the experts who are actively smashing it, find out their story and figure out what we can learn from them. Hosted by Emma Mclean, CEO & Founder of Works for Everyone, this is a punchy, practical, and peppered with laughter podcast that equips listeners with ideas they can take back to their homes and workplaces to help smash the motherhood penalty.
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