‘The pace of change will never be this slow again’
Whether we like it or not Change is happening. It’s how we respond to Change that defines us. Join me for th...
In this episode of the Change It podcast, host Eloise Seidelin is joined by Matt Dragun, founder and managing director at Matae. Matt shares his extensive background in change and transformation management, from project management to executive coaching and building a technology company that’s shaping the future of change.🚀 What’s in this episode? 🔎 Why listen?If you’re in change management, transformation, or leadership, this episode is packed with practical insights into the future of our industry and how to stay ahead using tools in a changing landscape.✨ Exclusive for Change It listeners: Matae is offering a free 4-week trial of their Change Workspace v2.0—complete with Change Workspace v2.0 sandbox, your own pre-populated project to play in so you can check-out all the cool features, and you'll will be provided with a free onboarding session from the Matae team so you can get the most out of your trial experience.Sign up at www.changeworkspace.io/changeit🎧 Next episode: In two weeks, I’ll be chatting with Karla Micallef about Building Enterprise-Wide Change Capability—what it really takes to embed sustainable transformation.👂 Listen now and let’s change it together!Links:https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-dragun-1163b54/matae.iochangeworkspace.io/changeit
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Understanding Psychosocial Risks in the Workplace: Why Good Change Management Matters with Jenn Zuber
Psychosocial risks in the workplace are finally getting the attention they deserve—but what do they really mean, and why does change management play a crucial role?In this episode ofChange It, I sit down with industry expert Jenn Zuber to unpack the intersection of workplace change, mental health, and evolving legislation. We explore how poor change can drive stress, burnout, and disengagement—and howgood change management can safeguard employees and organisations alike.We cover:🔹 What psychosocial risk is (and why it’s often misunderstood)🔹 How changing legislation is holding organisations accountable🔹 The risks of bad change—and how to avoid them🔹 Practical steps to protect your people and your organisationWith new workplace safety laws treating mental health risks as seriously as physical ones, this is a must-listen for change leaders navigating an evolving landscape.🎧 Tune in now!Links:https://www.axiologygroup.com.au/about-ushttps://www.axiologygroup.com.au/book-onlinehttps://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/safety-topic/managing-health-and-safety/mental-health/psychosocial-hazardswww.changeittalent.com#changeittalent #EloiseSeidelin #JennZuber #Axiology #changemanagement #ChangeLearning #PsychosocialRisk
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Balancing AI and Human Intelligence for Effective Change Management with Michelle Teunis
In this thought-provoking episode of the Change It Podcast, host Eloise Seidelin sits down with Michelle Teunis, an expert in brain-friendly change and neuroscience, to explore the intersection of AI and Human Intelligence (HI) in change management. Together, they dive into the fascinating ways our brains react to change and how understanding these mechanisms can help us design more effective, sustainable change strategies.
Michelle shares her journey into applied neuroscience, unpacking how brain-friendly principles can be applied in personal and professional settings. The conversation covers how to foster emotional regulation, maintain social connection in the workplace, and harness co-intelligence between humans and AI to navigate the ever-evolving digital landscape.
Key topics include:
The brain’s reaction to change and triggers for resistance.
The practical application of neuroscience principles to design brain-friendly change.
How to balance AI's capabilities with the irreplaceable value of HI.
The risks of over-relying on AI in decision-making.
Michelle offers actionable insights for leaders and change practitioners who want to blend cutting-edge AI tools with a human-first approach to drive impactful transformation.
🎧 Tune in for expert advice, fascinating neuroscience, and practical strategies to lead smarter and more connected change initiatives.
Timestamps:00:00 Welcome to the Change It Podcast00:28 Michelle's Journey into Neuroscience03:16 Applying Neuroscience in Personal Life07:39 The Four Key Organizing Principles14:22 Triggers and Responses to Change18:29 Designing Brain-Friendly Change25:22 Understanding Immunity to Change26:30 The Brain as a Prediction Machine29:54 Comparing Human Brain and AI34:14 The Role of AI in Enhancing Human Capabilities37:35 The Risks of Over-Reliance on AI45:14 Balancing AI and Human Intelligence46:05 Final Thoughts and Connection
Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelleteunis/
https://aclinstitute.teachable.com/p/brainfriendlychange
1. Diagnosing your own immunity to change, Kegan and Lahey, 2009: https://mindsatwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Chapter9.pdf2. Dr Lisa Feldman Barrett (Cutting Edge Neuroscientist). - The brain is a prediction machine: https://theknowledge.io/the-prediction-machine/amp/- The theory of constructed emotion: https://fortelabs.com/blog/how-emotions-are-made/Highly recommended books written by Lisa: - 7.5 lessons about the brain. - How emotions are made. Dr Brett Kagan and Cortical Labs- Growing neurons / brain-cells in a dish (synthetic brains and AI): https://corticallabs.medium.com/what-does-it-mean-to-grow-a-mind-5819fcdd8a99- Merging AI and biology: https://youtu.be/L8tX7kMJDT4?si=4s9EX06Pygwqo72X
Don’t miss this episode filled with insights on the balance between technology and human connection in the ever-changing world of work!
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Evolving Through Transformation with Petra Fawcett: Leading, Adapting, and Staying Relevant Across Industries
Breaking Barriers: Leadership, Resilience, and Career Risk in Transformation
In this episode of the Change It podcast, Eloise interviews Petra, a transformation leader with 25 years of experience, whose career has evolved from sales to enterprise-level transformation across diverse industries.
Petra shares her journey and valuable insights on:
Evaluating Career Opportunities: How to assess roles through the lens of commitment, culture, and alignment with your career goals.
Empathy in Leadership: Why leading with empathy and fostering mentorship is critical for building successful teams.
Developing Transferable Skills: How to cultivate capabilities that adapt across sectors and roles.
Taking Career Risks: Building resilience and the bravery to embrace uncertainty in career transitions.
Overcoming Industry Barriers: Facing and addressing objections when transitioning to new sectors.
Shifting from Project to Enabling Roles: The value of adopting approaches that drive long-term transformation rather than short-term outcomes.
Golden Nugget: How embracing risk and resilience can unlock extraordinary opportunities in transformation.
A must-listen for transformation professionals and leaders seeking to navigate change and thrive in evolving industries.
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Debunking Change Myths with James Healy
In this episode of the Change It podcast, host Eloise chats with James Healy, a behavioural science expert based in Perth, WA, to debunk some of the most persistent myths in change management and organisational behaviour. Together, they take a closer look at widely accepted psychological models, such as Elizabeth Kübler-Ross's five stages of grief and the Myers-Briggs personality test, exposing their flaws and limitations in real-world applications.
James shares his perspective on why understanding human behaviour through a behavioural science lens is essential for driving meaningful and sustainable change. He challenges traditional approaches, advocating for environmental adaptation over attempting to alter individual personalities, and offers practical strategies to bring this human-centric approach into organisational change initiatives.
Listen in as James discusses:
Why some popular psychological models are outdated and ineffective
How a behavioural science lens transforms the way we approach change
Why the over reliance on personality as a driver of behaviour isn't helping us and how changing environments and reducing friction could influence change effectively
How to apply behavioural science in organisational settings
Practical steps to rethink and improve change management practices
James's insights provide a fresh and thought-provoking perspective on change management, encouraging us to question the status quo and embrace a more evidence-based approach to organisational transformation.
Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-healy-7ba629167/
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-b-word/id1597234291
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‘The pace of change will never be this slow again’
Whether we like it or not Change is happening. It’s how we respond to Change that defines us. Join me for the ultimate insight into how professionals highly qualified in Change embrace it, tackle it and succeed in the face of it.
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