Christ Over All

ABOUT THE EPISODE
The theme of resurrection is prominent in scripture from its very first pages until the end. See how it is present in the creation account of Genesis.
Sponsor
This month’s sponsor: Indianapolis Theological Seminary (indysem.org).
For men interested in pastoral training, take a look at the Shepherd’s Fellowship. This church-embedded, pastorally-mentored, fully-funded MDiv is beginning Fall 2026.
For more information, check out indysem.org/shepherdsfellowship.
 Resources to Click
“On the Third Day: Seeing Resurrection From Beginning to End” – David Schrock
“From Slight Peg to Cornerstone to Capstone: The Resurrection of Christ on ‘the Third Day’ according to the Scriptures,” – Stephen Dempster
“Raised on the Third Day according to the Scriptures”: Resurrection Typology in the Genesis Creation Narrative” – Nicolas P. Lunn
“Creation & Covenant: Genesis 1-3” – Occoquan Bible Church
“The First Day of the Lord (Genesis 3): Seven Reasons the Fall Occurred on the Seventh Day” – David Schrock
Theme of the Month: Resurrection in the Old Testament
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Books to Read
Genesis 1–11, Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture – Andrew Louth and Marco Conti
Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible, Vol. 1 – Matthew Henry
“Typology,” in Dictionary of the New Testament Use of the Old Testament – eds. G.K. Beal, D.A. Carson, Benjamin L. Gladd, and Andrew David Naselli
Leviticus (NAC) – Mark F. Rooker

ABOUT THE EPISODE
Join David Schrock, Trent Hunter, and Stephen Wellum as they discuss Stephen Dempster's COA Longform Essay "The Seeds of Resurrection Hope in the Scriptures"
Timestamps
This month’s sponsor: Indianapolis Theological Seminary (indysem.org).
For men interested in pastoral training, take a look at the Shepherd’s Fellowship. This church-embedded, pastorally-mentored, fully-funded MDiv is beginning Fall 2026.
For more information, check out indysem.org/shepherdsfellowship.
00:49 – Intro
04:22 – Dr. Dempster’s Bio
05:43 – Canada’s Great Theologians, But Bad Leaders
09:20 – Trent’s Relation to Stephen Dempster
11:25 – Helpful Things about Dr. Dempster’s Article
15:05 – How the Biblical Worldview Leads to Resurrection
21:06 – Lack of Resurrection Themes Seen by OT Scholars
24:21 – How Has OT Themes Helped Preaching on the Resurrection
28:41 – What Views of Typology Do We Need to Have?
32:36 – Indianapolis Theological Seminary Shepherds’ Fellowship
33:53 – Determining Typological Examples
37:35 – Moving From OT to NT in Preaching
46:03 – Dr. Dempster’s Typological Connections
55:20 – Resurrection is Not Just Therapeutic
58:50 – Counsel for Preaching Texts that Don’t Easily Get to the Resurrection
1:03:21 – Outro
Resources to Click
“The Seeds of Resurrection Hope in the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“From slight peg to cornerstone to capstone: the resurrection of Christ on ‘the third day’ according to the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“As It Is Written: Old Testament Foundations For Jesus’ Expectation Of Resurrection” – Byron Wheaton
“Isaac Typology in The New Testament” – Edwin Wood
“Twice as Much of Your Spirit: Pattern, Parallel and Pronomasia in The Miracles of Elijah and Elisha” – Nachman Levine
“’On the Third Day’: The Easter Traditions of the Primitive Church” – Gustav Stählin
Theme of the Month: Resurrection in the Old Testament
Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
Dominion and Dynasty – Stephen Dempster
Waking from the Dust: Daniel 12:2 and Resurrection Hope in Biblical Theology – Mitchell Chase
“Resurrection: Old Testament” in the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – David Noel Freedman, trans Terrence Prendergast
A Theology of the Old Testament – John McKenzie
Theologies In the Old Testament – Erhard Gerstenberger
Bible Delight: Heartbeat of the Word of God – Christopher Ash
Resurrection and the Restoration of Israel: The Ultimate Victory of the God of Life – Jon Levenson
The Stories of Elijah and Elisha as Polemics against Baal Worship – Leila Leah Bronner
“Resurrection: Early Judaism and Christianity,” in The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – ed. David Noel Freeman
I Believe in the Resurrection of Jesus – George Eldon Ladd
The Resurrection of the Son of God – N.T. Wright
“Time,” in The Temple: Sacred Poems – George Herbert

ABOUT THE EPISODE
The resurrection of Christ on the third day is a key piece of the gospel message. Did the idea of a third day resurrection come from nowhere, or was this event foreshadowed by the Old Testament?
This month’s sponsor: Indianapolis Theological Seminary (indysem.org).For men interested in pastoral training, take a look at the Shepherd’s Fellowship. This church-embedded, pastorally-mentored, fully-funded MDiv is beginning Fall 2026. For more information, check out indysem.org/shepherdsfellowship.
Resources to Click
“The Seeds of Resurrection Hope in the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“From slight peg to cornerstone to capstone: the resurrection of Christ on ‘the third day’ according to the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“As It Is Written: Old Testament Foundations For Jesus’ Expectation Of Resurrection” – Byron Wheaton
“Isaac Typology in The New Testament” – Edwin Wood
“Twice as Much of Your Spirit: Pattern, Parallel and Pronomasia in The Miracles of Elijah and Elisha” – Nachman Levine
“’On the Third Day’: The Easter Traditions of the Primitive Church” – Gustav Stählin
Theme of the Month: Resurrection in the Old Testament
Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
Waking from the Dust: Daniel 12:2 and Resurrection Hope in Biblical Theology – Mitchell Chase
“Resurrection: Old Testament” in the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – David Noel Freedman, trans Terrence Prendergast
A Theology of the Old Testament – John McKenzie
Theologies In the Old Testament – Erhard Gerstenberger
Bible Delight: Heartbeat of the Word of God – Christopher Ash
Resurrection and the Restoration of Israel: The Ultimate Victory of the God of Life – Jon Levenson
The Stories of Elijah and Elisha as Polemics against Baal Worship – Leila Leah Bronner
“Resurrection: Early Judaism and Christianity,” in The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – ed. David Noel Freeman
I Believe in the Resurrection of Jesus – George Eldon Ladd
The Resurrection of the Son of God – N.T. Wright
“Time,” in The Temple: Sacred Poems – George Herbert

ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as Trent Hunter and Stephen Wellum interview David Schrock on his COA Longform Essay, "Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives"
Timestamps
00:45 – Intro
02:15 – Each COA Member’s SBC Biography
08:08 – Why Is COA Doing this Month?
12:50 – What 2 or 3 Articles From This Month are Recommended?
15:22 – Recognizing Leaders Whose Humility Regains Trust
20:50 – Applying Theology to the SBC Issues
25:46 – Recruiting Trustees Who Will Hold Entities Accountable
28:34 – The Baptist Courier Ad
29:50 – Accountability for Trustees
34:08 – Trustee Selection
36:00 – Reorganizing the Convention to Magnify Trust
44:14 – What Should SBC Messengers Be Looking For Between Now and Orlando?
51:32 – Walking in a Spirit of Cooperation/Outro
Resources to Click
“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock
“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks
“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All
“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All
“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All
“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary
“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns
“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead
“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman
“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder
“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All
“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All
“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All
“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock
“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol
“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger
“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham
“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua Abbotoy
By What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders Ministries
How the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic Studios
X post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025
“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock
“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino
“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs
“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin Wax
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
Fault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.
Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan Basham
The Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin

ABOUT THE EPISODE
Many aspects of the SBC are broken, and this article charts a possible route forward into a dawn marked by humble leaders, diligent trustees, and a reorganization.
Resources to Click
“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock
“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks
“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All
“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All
“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All
“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary
“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns
“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead
“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman
“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder
“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All
“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All
“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All
“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock
“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol
“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger
“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham
“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua Abbotoy
By What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders Ministries
How the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic Studios
X post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025
“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock
“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino
“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs
“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin Wax
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
Give to Support the Work
 
Books to Read
Fault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.
Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan Basham
The Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin