Christ Over All

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The resurrection of Christ on the third day is a key piece of the gospel message. Did the idea of a third day resurrection come from nowhere, or was this event foreshadowed by the Old Testament?
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Resources to Click
“The Seeds of Resurrection Hope in the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“From slight peg to cornerstone to capstone: the resurrection of Christ on ‘the third day’ according to the Scriptures” – Stephen Dempster
“As It Is Written: Old Testament Foundations For Jesus’ Expectation Of Resurrection” – Byron Wheaton
“Isaac Typology in The New Testament” – Edwin Wood
“Twice as Much of Your Spirit: Pattern, Parallel and Pronomasia in The Miracles of Elijah and Elisha” – Nachman Levine
“’On the Third Day’: The Easter Traditions of the Primitive Church” – Gustav Stählin
Theme of the Month: Resurrection in the Old Testament
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Books to Read
Waking from the Dust: Daniel 12:2 and Resurrection Hope in Biblical Theology – Mitchell Chase
“Resurrection: Old Testament” in the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – David Noel Freedman, trans Terrence Prendergast
A Theology of the Old Testament – John McKenzie
Theologies In the Old Testament – Erhard Gerstenberger
Bible Delight: Heartbeat of the Word of God – Christopher Ash
Resurrection and the Restoration of Israel: The Ultimate Victory of the God of Life – Jon Levenson
The Stories of Elijah and Elisha as Polemics against Baal Worship – Leila Leah Bronner
“Resurrection: Early Judaism and Christianity,” in The Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary – ed. David Noel Freeman
I Believe in the Resurrection of Jesus – George Eldon Ladd
The Resurrection of the Son of God – N.T. Wright
“Time,” in The Temple: Sacred Poems – George Herbert

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Listen in as Trent Hunter and Stephen Wellum interview David Schrock on his COA Longform Essay, "Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives"
Timestamps
00:45 – Intro
02:15 – Each COA Member’s SBC Biography
08:08 – Why Is COA Doing this Month?
12:50 – What 2 or 3 Articles From This Month are Recommended?
15:22 – Recognizing Leaders Whose Humility Regains Trust
20:50 – Applying Theology to the SBC Issues
25:46 – Recruiting Trustees Who Will Hold Entities Accountable
28:34 – The Baptist Courier Ad
29:50 – Accountability for Trustees
34:08 – Trustee Selection
36:00 – Reorganizing the Convention to Magnify Trust
44:14 – What Should SBC Messengers Be Looking For Between Now and Orlando?
51:32 – Walking in a Spirit of Cooperation/Outro
Resources to Click
“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock
“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks
“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All
“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All
“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All
“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary
“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns
“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead
“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman
“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder
“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All
“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All
“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All
“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock
“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol
“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger
“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham
“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua Abbotoy
By What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders Ministries
How the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic Studios
X post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025
“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock
“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino
“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs
“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin Wax
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
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Books to Read
Fault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.
Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan Basham
The Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin

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Many aspects of the SBC are broken, and this article charts a possible route forward into a dawn marked by humble leaders, diligent trustees, and a reorganization.
Resources to Click
“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock
“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks
“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All
“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All
“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All
“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary
“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns
“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead
“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman
“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder
“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All
“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All
“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All
“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock
“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol
“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger
“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham
“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua Abbotoy
By What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders Ministries
How the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic Studios
X post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025
“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock
“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino
“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs
“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin Wax
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
Give to Support the Work
 
Books to Read
Fault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.
Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan Basham
The Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin

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Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice.
Timestamps
00:51 – Intro
05:08 – Why Willy Rice Has Sought the Presidency of the SBC
06:57 – What Changed Willy Rice’s Perspective
10:07 – Insiders and Outsiders
14:30 – The Breakdown and Regaining of Trust
18:46 – Where are the Places for Communication?
21:51 – What Can the Trustees Be Doing to Help?
25:08 – Willy Rice’s Assessment of the Trustees
29:04 – The Baptist Courier
30:22 – Being Transparent
35:12 – The State of DEI and Resolution 9 in the SBC
43:46 – What Place Does the ERLC Have in the SBC?
46:23 – What Kind of Leaders Do We Need in the SBC?
49:22 – What’s the Receptivity to Willy’s Message
53:23 – Seven Pillars for Baptist Renewal
56:36 – Outro
 Resources to Click
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
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Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell.
Timestamps
00:46 – Intro
06:07 – Why Josh Powell Wants to Be SBC President
13:52 – What are Some of the Biggest Things the SBC Has?
16:17 – Concrete Ways of Moving Forward without a Credentials Committee
22:07 – The Issue of Loss of Trust and How to Regain It
26:47 – What Kind of Influence Does Josh Powell Have to Make the SBC Stronger?
30:30 – The Baptist Courier
31:50 – Navigating the Question of Wokeness
39:26 – Confessing Where We Were Wrong
43:00 – What Lessons Can We Learn from The Sex Abuse Task Force
48:44 – Is There a Way for Leaders to Say They Were Wrong on This?
52:15 – What Kind of Leaders Would Best Serve the SBC?
56:07 – The ERLC: It’s Ideal Mission, Identity, and Leadership
59:39 – Where You Can Learn More about Josh Powell
1:01:08 – Outro
Resources to Click
Theme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st Century
Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
The Unprotected Class: How Anti-White Racism is Tearing America Apart – Jeremy Carl