Author Bolu Babalola on Second-Chance Romance, Internet Discourse, and Finding Joy Amid the Darkness
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Bolu Babalola is the author of 'Love in Colour', 'Honey & Spice' and a new book titled 'Sweet Heat', which comes out on July 3rd 2025. We spoke about finding joy amid the darkness, being a public person, internet discourse, Yoruba culture, and why rom-coms are due a proper renaissance – plus much more.
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Founder and Artist Kai Avent-deLeon on Self-Love, Staying True, and Creating Community Spaces
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Kai Avent-DeLeon is the founder of the concept store Sincerely, Tommy and the restaurant Che–both beloved fixtures in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, the neighbourhood where Kai was born and raised. She also runs Sanctuary, a retreat programme in upstate New York. We spoke about Kai's spiritual and wellness practices, her approach to goal-setting and parenting, the power of real-life community, and so much more.
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Live at Miu Miu Literary Club: Author Naoise Dolan on Sex Education, Female Socialisation, and Millennial Malaise
This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary Club is the latest in a series of cultural experiences devised by Miu Miu to promote the arts.
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Naoise Dolan is an Irish author whose first book, ‘Exciting Times’, was published to widespread acclaim in 2020. Naoise followed this with the equally well-received ‘The Happy Couple’ in 2023. In both books, Naoise tackles the confusion of contemporary life with precision and wit: her characters grapple with sexuality, housing instability, social media malaise, and our growing class disparities. At the same time, Naoise brings a fresh, often unpredictable perspective to the timeless topics of education, girlhood, and desire that inform this year’s Literary Club curation.
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Live at Miu Miu Literary Club: Writer and Translator Lauren Elkin on Girlhood, Desire, and The Joy of Female Friendship
This special episode was recorded live at the Miu Miu Literary Club, which took place on 9th-10th April 2025 in Milan. Under the direction of Mrs Miuccia Prada, and now in its second iteration, the Literary Club is the latest in a series of cultural experiences devised by Miu Miu to promote the arts.
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Lauren Elkin is the translator behind Simone de Beauvoir’s posthumously published book ‘The Inseparables’ - a focus text for this year’s Miu Miu Literary Club - and she is the author of multiple non-fiction books and novels. These include 2024’s ‘Scaffolding’, which explores the ethics of desire, the transition from girlhood to womanhood, and the impact that formative teachers can have on our lives.
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Artist and Director Martine Syms on Discernment, Awkward Phases, and Visibility
Deep Read #35 is with the artist and director, Martine Syms.Â
Martine is one of the most prominent names in the contemporary art world. Her work encompasses sculpture, digital art, video, publishing, and photography, and has been shown in dozens of galleries and iconic art institutions worldwide. In 2022, she made her directorial debut with 'The African Desperate', and she's currently working on her second feature.
Martine is as fun as she is brilliant! We discussed shame, astrology, Sapphic poetry, badmind people, awkward stages, visibility, and so much more.Â
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Deep Read is a podcast hosted by Phoebe Lovatt, featuring conversations with big thinkers about big ideas.
Each episode is accompanied by a reading list - find it at phoebe.substack.com
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