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Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
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  • Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

    Excavating Your Lost Self

    01/2/2026 | 22 mins.
    Thom’s Nutshell: "How much of what you believe do you really believe?"

    Allen and Patrick review a recent Slate article about Emotional Sobriety and push back on some of its premises. Emotional Sobriety isn’t just about taking care of ourselves, it’s about dismantling expectations and developing an entirely new way of living. It offers not just inner peace, but true freedom.

    The article: “I Quit Drinking. It’s Great. There’s Just One Small Problem.”

    https://slate.com/advice/2025/08/drinking-alcoholism-emotional-sobriety-dry-drunk-advice.html

    Follow us on social media.

    Instagram: thomrutledge2

    Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

    Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:

    https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 

     

    Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events

     

    Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/

     

    Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 

    https://zoom.us/j/330149513

    Password: 375986

     

    For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g

     

    Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519

    We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.

     

    We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at [email protected] for any questions or comments.
  • Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

    "Focus Mokus" with Joe C.

    27/1/2026 | 37 mins.
    On clarity, which comes with emotional sobriety: an antidote to impulsivity, rumination, indecision and procrastination.

    Thom’s nutshell wisdom:

    Your ego has one value system, your spirit another. Beware of identifying with one and acting from the other. We all experience this. It is the source of our deepest hypocrisy.

    This is the human struggle: personally and globally.

    Our hearts go out to the people of Minneapolis.

    Follow us on social media.

    Instagram: thomrutledge2

    Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

    Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:

    https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 

     

    Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events

     

    Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/

     

    Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 

    https://zoom.us/j/330149513

    Password: 375986

     

    For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g

     

    Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519

    We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.

     

    We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at [email protected] for any questions or comments.
  • Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

    Personal Agency in Emotional Sobriety

    19/1/2026 | 28 mins.
    "I didn't have a choice."

    You're selling yourself short. Or you mean, the choice seemed obvious to you. But still, you made the choice.

    Or - you are making an excuse, ducking responsibility, for a poor choice that you made.

    Because...

    We always have choices.

    Even not making a choice is a choice.

    Follow us on social media.

    Instagram: thomrutledge2

    Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

    Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:

    https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 

     

    Friendly Circle Berlin workshops: https://friendlycircleberlin.org/events

     

    Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/

     

    Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 

    https://zoom.us/j/330149513

    Password: 375986

     

    For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g

     

    Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519

    We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.

     

    We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at [email protected] for any questions or comments.
  • Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

    Tout Est Possible

    12/1/2026 | 22 mins.
    Today’s Nutshell Wisdom: The big difference between passing judgment and exercising judgment: One focuses attention on something I do not control. The other focuses on precisely what I do control.

    Today we’re back to the serenity prayer and describing what emotional sobriety’s “discovery of new possibilities” could practically mean.

    Follow us on social media.

    Instagram: thomrutledge2

    Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

    Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:

    https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 

     

    Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST

    Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905

     

    Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/

     

    Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 

    https://zoom.us/j/330149513

    Password: 375986

     

    For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g

     

    Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519

    We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.

     

    We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at [email protected] for any questions or comments.
  • Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

    Resilience Myths

    01/1/2026 | 35 mins.
    Joe C. quotes Joseph Campbell: “We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us.”

    Thom’s nutshell for today: “Measure your progress in units of willingness instead of willpower, with degrees of self-acceptance rather than change."

    Allen, Thom, Joe and Patrick each talk about how their understanding of emotional sobriety has evolved over the past year, looking ahead to 2026.

    Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here:

    https://rebelliondogspublishing.com 

     

    Follow us on social media.

    Instagram: thomrutledge2

    Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs

     

    Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST

    Zoom Link:  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905

     

    Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/

     

    Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): 

    https://zoom.us/j/330149513

    Password: 375986

     

    For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g

     

    Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519

    We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings.

     

    We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at [email protected] for any questions or comments.

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About Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

Bill Wilson, co-founder of Alcoholic's Anonymous, wrote in 1952, "If we examine every disturbance we have, great or small, we will find at the root some unhealthy dependence and its consequent demand." Wilson suggested that if we could identify and continually surrender these unrealistic and unrecognizable demands, that we may then be able to accomplish what he imagined to be recovery's next frontier - something he called emotional sobriety.   Flash forward 70 years, and join psychotherapists and best-selling authors Thom Rutledge and Dr. Allen Berger, who have taken up the mantle of exploring Bill Wilson's new frontier. Welcome to Emotional Sobriety.
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