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    Dorothy Day: The Long Loneliness w. Martha & Kate Hennessy

    09/03/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    In today’s episode of Good on Wood we speak with Martha & Kate Hennessy about their grandmother, Dorothy Day.
    Join us in this rich conversation as we delve into Dorothy’s life and witness, her spiritual evolution, the birth of the Catholic Worker Movement and her lasting impact upon the world. This episode explores her unwavering commitment to nonviolence, hospitality, and radical love, inspiring a new generation to live the works of mercy against the works of war.
    “We have all known the long loneliness and we have learned that the only solution is love and that love comes with community.” - Dorothy Day

    ABOUT MARTHA HENNESSY
    Martha Hennessy, seventh grandchild of Dorothy Day divides her time between the family farm in Vermont and practicing the works of mercy at Maryhouse Catholic Worker in New York City.
    She is 70, a retired occupational therapist, and grandmother of nine. She has been imprisoned protesting war and nuclear power/weapons, the use of drones, and the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo and US prisons.
    She has traveled to Russia, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Korea, and Palestine to understand the impact of United States foreign military policy and the effects on countries and families around the world.
    Martha travels and speaks on the topics of her Catholic faith, her grandmother Dorothy Day’s life, work in community, Catholic Social Teaching, war and peace, nuclear abolition, and peacemaking efforts in the tradition of the Catholic Worker movement.

    ABOUT KATE HENNESSY
    Kate Hennessy is a writer and the youngest of Dorothy Day’s nine grandchildren. Her work has been included in Best American Travel Writing. She is the author of Dorothy Day: The World Will Be Saved By Beauty and, in collaboration with the photographer Vivian Cherry, Dorothy Day and the Catholic Worker: The Miracle of our Continuance. Kate divides her time between Ireland and Vermont.

    RESOURCES
    * Dorothy Day: Selected Writings
    * Catholic Worker Movement
    * Encyclicals on Social Justice
    * The Dorothy Day Guild
    * The Long Lullaby by Dorothy Day

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    Adam Curle: To Tame The Hydra w. Dr Laurens van Esch

    18/02/2026 | 57 mins.
    In today’s episode of Good on Wood we speak with Dr Laurens van Esch, the Assistant Professor of Political Philosophy and Associate Coordinator of Reconciliation Studies at St Stephen’s University, about the radical life and profound contributions of Adam Curle, a significant figure in peace studies and Quakerism. Together we explore Curle’s influence of naming power dynamics in conflict, the integration of spirituality in activism, and the importance of awareness in peacemaking. Adam Curle’s legacy and relevance in today’s complex social landscape and his emphasis of the interconnectedness of all beings and the need to cultivate silence and internal reflection in modern activism is needed more than ever today.
    ABOUT DR LAURENS VAN ESCH
    Laurens van Esch received a Bachelor’s degree in History (2006) and Master’s degrees in History (2007) and in Philosophy (2011) from Utrecht University. In 2023, he completed his PhD in Philosophy, also at Utrecht University. In 2015, he started teaching at St. Stephen’s University, where he currently serves as Assistant Professor of Political Philosophy as well as Associate Coordinator of Reconciliation Studies.
    Laurens’ research and teaching interests straddle the boundary between the disciplines of cultural history and political philosophy. He loves to reflect on how the study of the past relates to the pursuit of justice in the present, and is particularly interested in the power of story, religion, and commemorative practices within emancipatory social movements.
    Out of the classroom, Laurens has participated in various forms of Indigenous solidarity efforts, mainly through and in partnership with Community Peacemaker Teams, Mennonite Church Canada and the German Mennonite Peace Committee. This included advocacy work in support of the Grassy Narrows First Nation (2012-2013), a 500 km ‘Honour Walk’ to honour the survivors of Residential Schools (2014), a short stint at Standing Rock (2016) and a 600 km ‘Pilgrimage for Indigenous Rights’ to Ottawa (2017).
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    Oscar Romero: Love Must Win Out w. Kevin Clarke

    08/02/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    In today’s episode of Good on Wood we speak with Kevin Clarke, Senior Editor and Chief Corespondent for America Magazine and author of "Oscar Romero: Love Must Win Out," about the profound life and death of Oscar Romero. Together we explore his story, the complex political context of his time, the history of El Salvador and the prophetic courage he displayed in the face of oppression and state violence. The lessons we can learn from Romero's commitment to love and justice are of incredible importance to our own political climate and the demands of the Gospel upon our lives to speak truth to power.
    ABOUT KEVIN CLARKE
    Kevin Clarke is chief correspondent for America Media, the author of Oscar Romero: Love Must Win Out (Liturgical Press) and a columnist for U.S. Catholic magazine.
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    Elizabeth McAlister: 7 Minutes to Midnight w. Frida Berrigan, Clare Grady & Jackie Allen

    18/11/2025 | 1h 27 mins.
    In today’s episode of Good on Wood we speak with Frida Berrigan, Clare Grady & Jackie Allen about the profound impact of Elizabeth McAlister's life, teachings and half a century of activism. Together we reflect on personal stories, letters exchanged, and the significance of Liz's activism within the Catholic Worker Movement and the Plowshares Movement. They discuss her early life, the challenges she faced, and the importance of community and spirituality in her resistance to the Vietnam War and Nuclear Weapons. The dialogue emphasizes the interconnectedness of personal experiences and political activism, highlighting Liz's legacy as a symbol of light and hope for the world. 

    About Frida Berrigan 
    Frida Berrigan lives in New London, CT with her husband and three kids. She is an urban farmer and community activist, organizing around affordable home ownership with the Southeastern Connecticut Community Land Trust, and against the ever stretching shadow of militarism with the Connecticut Committee on Nuclear Prohibition. She serves on the board of Kirkridge Retreat and Study Center in PA and organizes locally with the People’s Budget Coalition. She writes periodically for WagingNonviolence, TomDispatch.Com and In These Times, and is the author of the 2015 book “It Runs In The Family: On Being Raised By Radicals And Growing Into Rebellious Motherhood” (OR Books). Last year, she authored Our Fast Matters, a booklet of 40 Lenten reflections for Pax Christi USA. 

    About Clare Grady 
    Clare Grady is an American peace activist and a member of the Catholic Worker and the Plowshares movements. She advocated against use of cruise missiles for first-strike capability in the 1983 Griffiss Plowshares action. In 2003, she and three others made up The Saint Patrick's Day Four, who conducted a protest action at a military recruiting centre in Lansing, New York against the impending Iraq War. She participated in the Kings Bay Plowshares action on April 4, 2018, which resulted in a conviction and sentence of one year and a day. A mother and grandmother, Clare spent two decades working at Loaves & Fishes, an Ithaca-based kitchen which provides free meals, hospitality, companionship and advocates for those in need. 

    About Jackie Allen
    Jackie Allen Doucot is a life long Plowshares activist, artist, Water Protector, Catholic Worker, Spiritual Companion and a member of the Atlantic Life Community. She can be reached at - hartfordcatholicworker.org

    RESOURCES:

    The Berrigan - McAlister Archives (DePaul University)
    Nuclear Weapons Ruined My Life by. Frida Berrigan 
    Frida’s Book - “It Runs in the Family”
    Hit & Stay Documentary

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    Steve Biko: Crucified Among the Crossbearers w. Dr Itumeleng Mosala & Nkosi Gola

    01/11/2025 | 1h 23 mins.
    In today’s episode of Good on Wood we speak with the TOWER of Black Theology in South Africa, Prof. Itumeleng Mosala and the Director of Urban African Solidarity at Iziko Lamaqabane, Nkosi Gola about the life and legacy of Steven Bantu Biko. The conversation delves deep into the profound impact of Black Consciousness and Black Theology on the struggle for liberation in South Africa, particularly through the lens of Biko's life and work. Together we reflect on Biko's spirituality, his role in student movements, and the impact of his death on the political landscape. We also address the misrepresentation of Biko in popular culture and emphasize the importance of understanding his contributions to human dignity and revolutionary politics. 

    About Dr. Itumeleng Mosala 

    Prof Mosala is one of the most outstanding South African academics and public intellectuals in the country. His outstanding influence in the academic and public domains has distinguished him as a significant contributor to the academic field of theology (especially Old Testament Studies), tertiary education, politics and public life.

    Prof Mosala’s career as a lecturer in Theology stems from his service as a minister in the Methodist Church (1972 to 1977). Thereafter, he taught Theology and Biblical Hermeneutics at some of the finest universities in the world over a period of 15 years (1980 to 1995). Between 1980 to 1982, he taught Biblical Studies, Theology of Liberation, African Traditional Religions and Hebrew at the University of Botswana. From 1983 to 1994, he had tenure at the University of Cape Town, where he held the positions of lecturer, senior lecturer, associate professor, professor and head of department, teaching Black Theology, African Religion and Biblical Studies. Between 1991 and 1993, he was a visiting lecturer at Wesley House College at the University of Cambridge (UK). 

    Together with other great black leaders and theologians, Prof Mosala established South African Black Theology. In this regard, his book Biblical Hermeneutics and Black Theology in South Africa (1987) remains one of the definitive statements of South African Black Theology.

    His career in the public service started as a Chief Director for Higher Education in the National Department of Education during the presidency of Nelson Mandela, 1995 to 1998. After a stint as Vice Chancellor and Principal at the Technikon North West, 1998 to 2003, he returned to the public service as the Director-General for the National Department of Arts and Culture.

    The President of the Republic, Cyril M. Ramaphosa, appointed Prof. Itumeleng Mosala a Commissioner of the Independent Commission for the Remuneration of Public Office Bearers on 15 November 2019.

    He holds a Doctorate in Philosophy from the University of Cape Town, M.A from University of Manchester, UK, and an MBA from The Open University, UK.

    About Nkosi Gola

    Comrade Gola serves as the Director of Urban African Solidarity, Black Church & Black Theology Engagement, and Programs Manager for Iziko Lamaqabane. Iziko Lamaqabane is on a pilgrimage to heal colonial wounds, disrupt systemic violence, and cultivate faith formed by and expressed in liberative praxis. By working in relational solidarity with urban peace and justice practitioners throughout Africa, Iziko serves those active at the site of struggle by facilitating spaces of retreat, exchange and collective learning grounded at the intersection of anabaptism, black liberation theology & critical consciousness.

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