Episode 200 of the Happy, Holy Mama Podcast is a milestone IÂ never could have reached without the steady support of my husband, Lucas.
So for this special milestone episode, I invited Lucas back on the podcast for a candid, real-life conversation about what happens when one spouse goes first in the inner work, and the other decides to join in.
We share what it looked like inside our actual marriage when Lucas was coming home depleted, feeling burned out, and realizing that trying to "fix the outside stuff" wasn't touching the deeper problem underneath:Â
That, in his words, he wasn't taking responsibility for his own feelings and therefore wasn't being the leader that I needed him to be.Â
Lucas shares what shifted for him and how husbands can start making those shifts for themselves right now.Â
This conversation is for wives and husbands.
Wives: you'll hear from me about why your growth really can change the whole emotional climate of your home, without you trying to control or "fix" your husband (psssst…he's not broken!).
We talk about the way our thoughts about each other either build trust and safety… or quietly poison connection, which will directly impact how well you live in Right Order.
Husbands: Lucas speaks directly to you about the pressure you carry, the temptation to check out, and the difference between "being emotionally available" and emotionally dumping on your wife.Â
He shares what it means to take responsibility, not through dominance or control, but by becoming steady, curious, charitable, and strong in a way that makes your wife feel safe again. (Yes, we even talk about how confusing modern messages about masculinity can be, and the mindset that actually helps a marriage thrive.)
If you're in a season where you feel like two ships passing in the night…
Or, if you've been stuck in resentment or exhaustion…
Or, if you love each other but don't quite know how to find each other again in the day-to-day…
Or, if one or both of you intellectually know that you are living your dream life, but somehow not enjoying it…
Then Lucas and I want to invite each of you to grab an earbud and together join us for: Interview with a Homeschool Husband Part 2: How to Have a Happy, Holy Marriage.
Join the Happy, Holy Mama Waitlist for more information about what's coming in 2026 for Catholic homeschooling mamas, papas, and your marriage HERE!