Pop Apologists

We unpack Taylor Swift's surprise 'Patient Zero' announcement and her viral ring moment at the game. Plus, the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview, a jaw-dropping DM about dating Matthew Rhys, and a Hailey Glassman revelation that changes everything. Including but not limited to: the iced coffee job interview debate, a ten-year-old's pro-war essay, Kylie Jenner's Italian dream home, and Kris Jenner's three phones.

(00:07:58) 📧 Erin Lichy Questions Callout — call for listener questions ahead of Erin Lichy interview on Thursday
(00:08:43) 🎵 Taylor Swift's New Single — 'Patient Zero' and its confusing gray visual direction
(00:13:17) 💍 Taylor at Travis' Game — Taylor's rambunctious sideline reactions and 'that's my husband' ring moment
(00:17:54) 😢 Patrick Clancy Speaks — Patrick Clancy's 60 Minutes interview and the truther conspiracy debate
(00:31:35) ☕ Iced Coffee Interview Debate — whether bringing an iced coffee to a job interview reads as unprofessional
(00:41:19) ✉️ Bush War Letters Nostalgia — listener's childhood pro-Iraq-war essay and Chan's George W. Bush letter
(00:48:13) 💌 Matthew Rhys Crush and DM — DM from a woman who dated Matthew Rhys after Sienna Miller
(00:54:17) 😬 Hailey Glassman Trolling — Hailey Glassman's years of troll DMs to Claudia Oshry resurface
(01:01:06) 👋 TFP Leaves SLOMW — Taylor Frankie Paul announces she's leaving Mormon Wives
(01:03:04) 🏛️ Kylie Jenner's House Tour — Kylie Jenner's restored Italian villa and Saint-Tropez private jet vlog
(01:11:11) 🎁 Gift Card Winners — gift card winners and a tip about the Charles Spencer book event

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Travis Kelce’s latest wedding revelation leaving us with more questions than answers, Meghan Markle’s first UK-based reel, AI’s recent headlines have us wondering if Dyson Airwraps will be needed in bunkers, TS13 could be Debut: Taylor’s Version? and TFP is a dumpster fire on SLOMW.

(00:00:24) 🇪🇸 Chan’s NSFW Spanish Adventures
(00:04:44) 🎩 Travis Kelce's Haunting Wedding Attire
(00:09:52) 🎥 Meghan Markle's Lo-Fi & Domestic Reel: How often is Lilibet naturally vlogging her POV?
(00:16:52) 🤖 Doomer AI Headlines
(00:22:18) 💤 Navigating Work Soft Lifestyle in AI Apocalypse
(00:31:48) 🎾 Sydney Sweeney's Rage-Baiting Sports Ads (and is she even a Swiftie?)
(00:35:34) 👯‍♀️ New Season of Sister Wives Trailer - Has Cody Brown paid his penance?
(00:40:05) 🏈 Taylor Back on Our Big Screens at Chiefs Game - Is Scientology in her future?
(00:40:51) 🐣 Taylor Drops Easter Egg in Emmy’s Cameo - Can Lauren handle Debut: Taylor’s Version?
(00:44:55) 🤫 Taylor Frankie Paul Causes Chaos and Destruction on SLOMW
(01:06:37) 🏆 Announcing Our Comment Giveaway Winners

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Alix Earle's new show Earle Meets World, the Elizabeth Holmes documentary with Nathan Fielder, Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift's first outing as newlyweds, and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal status letter from King Charles.
(00:10:40) 🍹 Pookie & Jett Making Cocktails — Pookie and Jett's jacuzzi cocktails and the private group-chat crush confession
(00:13:28) 🙏 Husband & Wife Cheating Prayer — couple returning to pray outside the massage parlors where he cheated
(00:20:18) 🎙️ Gwyneth on Benny Blanco's Podcast — Gwyneth asks Benny Blanco when he married Selena Gomez
(00:21:44) ⚖️ Lindsay Clancy Mistrial Update — Patrick Clancy denies theories on GMA after mistrial declared
(00:24:03) 📺 Earle Meets World Review — why Alex Earl's unpolished family show feels more natural than House of Stassi
(00:36:09) 💔 Earle Cheating Scandal — the Ashley Dupre affair and the stepmom's pot-stirring reel about Alex
(00:53:03) 🩸 Elizabeth Holmes Documentary — Nathan Fielder's straight-faced Elizabeth Holmes documentary and its guarded spoilers
(01:00:00) 👗 Travis and Taylor's Outfits — Travis's party shirt and Taylor's floor-length dress at the clubhouse
(01:02:08) 👑 Harry and Meghan's Royal Status — King Charles' letter clarifying Harry and Meghan's non-working royal status

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This week covers the indecent photos of Jessi and Marciano nobody asked for, the Lindsay Clancy deadlock, and William and Kate reeling from Harry and Meghan's return. Plus Bethenny Frankel's Burning Man arc and Travis Kelce's Tommy Hilfiger moment with his dog.

(00:12:14) 📸 Jessi and Marciano Photos — Jessi's lingerie studio shoot with Marciano to hard launch love
(00:15:55) ⚖️ Lindsay Clancy Deadlocked Jury — deadlocked jury, dueling closing arguments, and the psychosis-versus-premeditation divide
(00:26:25) 👑 William & Kate Derailed by Harry — Vanity Fair claims William and Kate are rattled by Harry and Meghan's UK return
(00:36:42) 🔥 Bethenny Frankel at Burning Man — Bethenny Frankel packs a white leotard and swears off drugs for the playa
(00:38:15) 🏜️ Burning Man's Aging Crowd — data shows 40s and 50s crowd now outnumbers twentysomethings at the festival
(00:45:06) 🧶 J.Crew Sweater and Gen Z Fashion — the cropped roll-neck sweater from Emma Chamberlain's collection is causing an internet stir
(00:50:01) 💍 Sofia Franklyn's Wedding — Sofia Franklyn's Vera Wang Italian wedding and long-hidden groom reveal
(00:51:58) 🐕 Travis Kelce's Tommy Hilfiger Ad — Travis calls the Samoyed 'my dog' in his preppy Tommy Hilfiger campaign

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Take a deep dive into The (Dixie) Chicks, from their Texas beginnings to the moment Natalie Maines said fifteen words that changed everything. Plus, the Sony standoff, that Entertainment Weekly cover, and the Gaslighter divorce lore involving Adrian Pasdar.

(00:00:20) 🎸 Catching up with Joe — why they now say the Chicks and the gaslighter hoodie backstory
(00:03:49) 🎻 How The Chicks Got Started — sisters Emily and Martie and the original lineup with Laura and Robin
(00:08:12) 🎤 Natalie Maines Enters the Picture — how Natalie Maines's father slipped the sisters her demo cassette
(00:12:47) 💿 Debut Album — fighting the label to keep banjo, fiddle, and Wide Open Spaces
(00:16:42) 🤠 Cowboy Take Me Away History — Martie wrote it for Emily's wedding and Taylor Swift's arena tribute
(00:20:12) ⚖️ The Chicks' First Big Road Bump — suing Sony over royalties and archaic six-album recording contracts
(00:24:10) 🏠 The Album "Home" — the rootsy album with Landslide and family-written Travelin' Soldier
(00:30:27) 🌍 The Political Chapter of The Chicks — on tour in London on the eve of the Iraq invasion
(00:32:33) 🔥 The George W. Bush Scandal — the fifteen words about President Bush and the boycott that followed
(00:41:01) 🚨 Their First Post-Cancellation Dallas Show — a death threat, bomb dogs, and flying in and out of Dallas
(00:43:28) 📸 The Entertainment Weekly Cover — posing nude with slurs written across their bodies
(00:46:21) 🏆 Taking The Long Way — Not Ready to Make Nice and the Grammy sweep that followed
(00:53:56) ⏸️ The 14-year Hiatus — fourteen years of side projects and Natalie choosing motherhood
(00:57:14) 💔 Natalie Maines and Adrian Pasdar Divorce — the divorce news that fueled the Gaslighter album
(01:01:00) 🕵️ Adrian Pasdar and Amanda Righetti Romance — Comic Con chemistry and Natalie's winky-face Instagram comments
(01:10:20) 🎶 Gaslighter — the album's reception, the prenup fight, and her son in the band

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