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The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

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  • The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

    Not Every Marriage Is Meant to Be Saved: Dr. Jenn Mann on Knowing When to Let Go on Divorce & Beyond #405

    19/1/2026 | 44 mins.
    For many people quietly navigating divorce season, one question lingers beneath the surface:

    Is this just a rough season, or is this relationship truly over?

    In this powerful and deeply honest episode of Divorce & Beyond, Susan Guthrie sits down with renowned psychotherapist Dr. Jenn Mann to explore how to tell the difference, and why clarity, not guilt, is often the most caring path forward.

    Inspired by Dr. Jenn’s widely shared insight, “Not every relationship is meant to be saved,” this conversation goes far beyond the familiar stay-or-leave debate. Together, Susan and Dr. Jenn examine how therapy can sometimes help repair a marriage and other times provide the clarity needed to trust yourself enough to let go.

    They discuss the emotional cost of staying too long, the deal breakers people often rationalize away, and why ending a marriage can be an act of courage and strength rather than failure.

    This is a compassionate, nuanced conversation for anyone questioning what comes next.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode

    How to tell the difference between a rough season and a relationship that has truly run its course

    Why therapy is not always about fixing the marriage, but often about gaining clarity

    The deal breakers people ignore for years, including emotional unavailability and refusal to seek help

    Why “staying for the kids” is far more complex than it sounds and what children actually absorb

    How leaving a marriage can build confidence, resilience, and deeper self-trust

    About the Guest
    Dr. Jenn Mann is one of the most widely recognized psychotherapists in the country, with nearly three decades of clinical experience as a licensed Marriage, Family, and Child Therapist (LMFT).

    She is best known as the longtime host and therapist on VH1’s hit series Couples Therapy with Dr. Jenn and Family Therapy with Dr. Jenn, and has appeared as a trusted expert on hundreds of television programs, including The Today Show, Dr. Oz, The Wendy Williams Show, The Doctors, Steve Harvey, Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood, and Jimmy Kimmel Live.

    Dr. Jenn is the author of multiple bestselling books, including The Relationship Fix, SuperBaby, and The A to Z Guide to Raising Happy Confident Kids, which have collectively spent weeks on national bestseller lists. She is also the co-author of the children’s book Rockin’ Babies, written with her mother, Grammy-award-winning songwriter Cynthia Weil.

    In addition to her television and publishing work, Dr. Jenn hosted The Dr. Jenn Show on SiriusXM for five years and has contributed award-winning writing to national parenting and family publications.

    She lives in Beverly Hills, California, with her partner and twin daughters.

    🔗 Dr. Jenn Mann’s Book:
    The Relationship Fix
    https://amzn.to/3LtS4If

    📲 Connect with Dr. Jenn Mann:
    Instagram: @drjennmann

    Website: https://doctorjenn.com/

     

    Blog Article + Free Downloadable Resource
    📝 Staying for the Kids? What Children Actually Absorb From Unhappy Marriages

    This companion article explores why children are deeply sensitive to emotional environments and how thoughtful decisions, whether staying or leaving, shape their long-term wellbeing.

    Read here: https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/blog

     

    🎁 Free Download:
    Staying for the Kids? A Clarity Worksheet for Thoughtful Parents
    A supportive, non-judgmental reflection tool to help parents think through these questions without pressure or fear.

    Download here: https://divorcebeyond.com/stayingforthekids

     

    You’ll find the article, the worksheet, and the full episode on the latest episode page at divorceandbeyondpod.com.

    Make the Most of Your Listening Experience
    If this episode resonated with you:

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode

    Share this episode with someone who may need clarity, reassurance, or hope

    Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners

    Follow Divorce & Beyond
    🌐 Website: https://divorceandbeyondpod.com
    📸 Instagram: @divorceandbeyondpod

    Meet Your Host
    Susan E. Guthrie®, Esq. is one of the nation’s leading family law and mediation experts, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals and families navigate divorce with clarity and compassion.

    She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a bestselling author, and a sought-after speaker, trainer, and practice-building consultant. Susan recently appeared as a featured expert on The Oprah Podcast, sharing insights on gray divorce and the changing landscape of relationships.

    Her work has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC’s Chicago Today.

    As the creator and host of the award-winning Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads, Susan brings together trusted experts and powerful lived experiences to help listeners move through divorce and beyond with confidence and hope.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

     

    A Smarter, Simpler Way to Navigate Your Divorce
    Looking for a clearer and more affordable way to move through divorce? Hello Divorce offers a guided online platform that combines easy-to-follow tools with real legal and coaching support, helping you reduce stress, confusion, and costs.

    🎧 Divorce & Beyond listeners can explore a special page here:
    https://hellodivorce.com/susan

    Special Offer from Blue Mercury
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    💄 Divorce & Beyond listeners receive 15% off their first order when using the special link in the show notes. Because you deserve to feel your best, inside and out.

    🔗 https://divorcebeyond.com/Blue-Mercury

    Opportunities for Experts and Fellow Podcasters
    Interested in partnering with Divorce & Beyond or appearing as a guest?

    Learn more here:
    https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/guest-opportunities

    Disclaimer
    The commentary and opinions expressed on this podcast are for informational and educational purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. You should consult an attorney licensed in your state regarding any specific legal issue.
  • The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

    You Signed the Agreement. So Why Aren’t You Getting Paid? Critical Insights from Expert, Kelly Lise Murray on Divorce & Beyond #404

    12/1/2026 | 56 mins.
    You signed the divorce agreement. You thought it was over.

    But for many people, the real problems begin after the ink dries, when they discover that what they negotiated is not actually enforceable.

    In this essential episode of Divorce & Beyond, Susan Guthrie is joined by Kelly Lise Murray, a nationally recognized legal scholar whose work focuses on what happens when divorce settlements fall apart in real life, particularly in cases involving homes, mortgages, retirement assets, and complex property divisions.

    This conversation is especially important during divorce season, when many listeners are early in the process and assuming that reaching agreement automatically means protection. It does not.

    What You’ll Learn

    Why a signed divorce agreement does not guarantee you will receive what you were promised

    How enforcement failures leave people owed money or assets they never receive

    Why homes and retirement accounts are the highest-risk areas in divorce settlements

    How missing deadlines and contingencies quietly undermine agreements

    The questions you should ask your lawyer before signing anything

    About the Guest
    Prof. Kelly Murray, J.D. is a legal scholar, former law professor, and serial entrepreneur advancing Realty Asset Dispute Resolution nationwide.

    She earned her undergraduate degree Phi Beta Kappa from Stanford University and her law degree cum laude from Harvard Law School, and served for 18 years as faculty at a Top 20 U.S. law school.

    Kelly is the Lead Investigator and Faculty Member for the National Family Court Project on Housing and Financial Justice, where her work focuses on preserving homeownership eligibility and financial stability in family disputes, including divorce, trusts, elder law, and probate matters.

    Her expertise is grounded in real litigated cases involving enforcement failures, not theory. She is also the host of the Wealth Litigated Podcast.

    Blog Article + Free Resource
    To help you go deeper, Susan has written a companion blog article for this episode:

    📝 Blog Article:
    The Most Dangerous Words in Divorce: “We’ll Handle That Later”
    This article explains why enforcement issues are so often overlooked and how seemingly reasonable agreements fail when enforcement is not planned from the start.

    📄 Free Resource from Kelly Lise Murray:
    Kelly has created a free enforcement resource to help consumers understand what to ask and what to watch for when negotiating divorce agreements.  Get the resource here: Beyond.DivorceThisHouse.com

     

    🔗 Enforce the Divorce:
    https://EnforceTheDivorce.com

     

    👉 You’ll find links to both the blog article and the free resource in the show notes and on the latest episode page at divorceandbeyondpod.com/latest-episode.

    Additional Resources Mentioned
    Divorce Real Estate & Mortgage Specialists (RCS-D Directory):
    https://divorcethishouse.com/member-directory-rcs-ds-divorce-real-estate-specialists/

    Continuing Education for Lawyers & Financial Professionals:
    https://vettingthehouse.com/

    Connect with Kelly Lise Murray

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellylisemurray/

    Instagram: @kellylisemurray

    Final Thought
    If you cannot enforce the agreement you signed, you may not receive what you negotiated.

    This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating divorce, mediation, or settlement discussions.

    🎧 Listen now, and review the blog article and free resource before you sign anything.

     

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    Make the Most of Your Listening Experience:

    If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.

    Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.

    Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

    Follow Us Online:

    Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com,

    IG: @divorceandbeyondpod

    Meet Our Host
    Susan E. Guthrie®, Esq. is one of the nation’s leading family law and mediation experts, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals and families navigate divorce and conflict with clarity and compassion. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker, trainer, and practice-building consultant.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast, where she shared her insights on gray divorce and the changing landscape of relationships. Her expertise has also been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC’s Chicago Today, among many others.

    As the creator and host of the award-winning Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with more than 3.4 million downloads, Susan brings together top experts and powerful personal stories to help listeners move through divorce and beyond with confidence, insight, and hope.

    Learn more about Susan and her work at susaneguthrie.com.

    Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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    A Smarter, Simpler Way to Navigate Your Divorce

    Looking for a clearer and more affordable way to move through your divorce? Check out Hello Divorce. Their guided online platform combines easy-to-follow tools with real legal and coaching support to help you complete your divorce with less stress, less confusion, and far lower costs than a traditional courtroom battle.

    They have created a special page just for Divorce & Beyond listeners. Explore your options at hellodivorce.com/susan.

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    Yumiyu Jewelry

    YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

    During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.

    As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.

    Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!

    Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

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    Opportunities for Expert Guests and Fellow Podcasters

    Partner with Divorce & Beyond
    Whether you're a podcaster looking to expand your reach or an expert ready to share your insights, Divorce & Beyond offers the perfect platform to amplify your voice.  Find out more here: https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/guest-opportunities

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    DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM
  • The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

    Divorce Day 2026: The Five Things You Need to Know on Day One with Susan Guthrie on Divorce & Beyond #403

    05/1/2026 | 23 mins.
    It is Divorce Day. January 5, 2026. And if you are listening on the day this episode drops, divorce is everywhere. It is on the news, across social media, whispered in conversations, and quietly sitting in the background for many people as the holidays come to an end.

    Here is a simple truth: Divorce Day creates more noise than clarity. This episode is designed to help you slow down, get oriented, and understand what actually matters on Day One.

    In fact, after more than three decades as a divorce attorney and mediator, Susan Guthrie knows this truth better than anyone: Advice is loud. Opinions are everywhere. Much of what circulates today is designed to provoke urgency, fear, or dramatic action.

    The biggest mistake people make on Divorce Day is believing this day requires action. It does not. What it requires is understanding.

    In this grounded, compassionate solo episode, Susan walks listeners through the five things you need to know on Day One, sharing the foundational truths that separate people who navigate divorce intentionally from those who spend years undoing a rushed beginning.

    If divorce is on your mind today, this episode offers clarity, steadiness, and permission to pause.

    IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN: 

    Why Divorce Day is about readiness, not action, and how confusing the two leads to regret rather than relief.

    Why information must come before strategy, and how accurate, jurisdiction-specific knowledge calms fear and prevents avoidable mistakes.

    How the way divorce begins shapes everything that follows, including tone, communication, and long-term outcomes.

    Why divorce is not one decision but a series of decisions, and how choosing how you decide matters more than deciding everything at once.

    Why your divorce team matters more than you think, and how choosing the wrong professionals early can cost years of stress and unnecessary expense.

    MORE SUPPORT:

    If today’s episode resonated with you, Susan has also written a companion blog article titled Before You Say Anything: The Conversations That Can Make or Break Your Divorce, which explores why the earliest conversations often shape the entire divorce process. We have paired it with a free downloadable guide, Before You Say Anything: A Divorce Conversation Prep Guide, designed to help you slow down, choose your words intentionally, and protect your options before anything is filed. You can find them on the website at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/Blog

    MENTIONED EPISODES:

    The Divorce & Beyond episode archive is designed to support you at the very beginning of this process, when questions feel overwhelming and clarity feels out of reach and as you move through your divorce journey.

    Inside the archive, you will find conversations like:

    Divorce Triage: Who to Call First and How to Build the Right Support Team with Susan Guthrie

    ”We Need to Talk:” How to Have the Most Difficult Conversation of Your Life with Kate Anthony

    When Divorce Gets Messy: Why Litigation Is Sometimes the Only Answer with Leading Attorney, Marc Garelick

    You can search the full Divorce & Beyond archive by topic at divorceandbeyondpod.com and start with the episodes that speak most directly to where you are right now.

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    Make the Most of Your Listening Experience:

    If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.

    Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.

    Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

    Follow Us Online:

    Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com,

    IG: @divorceandbeyondpod

    Meet Our Host
    Susan E. Guthrie®, Esq. is one of the nation’s leading family law and mediation experts, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals and families navigate divorce and conflict with clarity and compassion. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker, trainer, and practice-building consultant.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast, where she shared her insights on gray divorce and the changing landscape of relationships. Her expertise has also been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC’s Chicago Today, among many others.

    As the creator and host of the award-winning Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with more than 3.4 million downloads, Susan brings together top experts and powerful personal stories to help listeners move through divorce and beyond with confidence, insight, and hope.

    Learn more about Susan and her work at susaneguthrie.com.

    Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

    *****************************************************************************

    A Smarter, Simpler Way to Navigate Your Divorce

    Looking for a clearer and more affordable way to move through your divorce? Check out Hello Divorce. Their guided online platform combines easy-to-follow tools with real legal and coaching support to help you complete your divorce with less stress, less confusion, and far lower costs than a traditional courtroom battle.

    They have created a special page just for Divorce & Beyond listeners. Explore your options at hellodivorce.com/susan.

    *****************

    Yumiyu Jewelry

    YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

    During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.

    As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.

    Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!

    Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU  Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

    *****************************************************************************

    Opportunities for Expert Guests and Fellow Podcasters

    Partner with Divorce & Beyond
    Whether you're a podcaster looking to expand your reach or an expert ready to share your insights, Divorce & Beyond offers the perfect platform to amplify your voice.  Find out more here: https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/guest-opportunities

    *****************************************************************************

    DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM
  • The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

    Divorce Season Is Coming: What You Need to Know Before You Make a Big Decision with Susan Guthrie on Divorce & Beyond #402

    29/12/2025 | 24 mins.
    It is the quiet week between Christmas and New Year’s. The guests have gone home, the adrenaline has worn off, and you are likely left with a heavy realization: The holidays didn’t fix it.

    If you are currently Googling "how to get a divorce" or secretly looking up attorneys while your spouse is in the other room, you are not alone. Next Monday, January 5th, is known in the legal industry as "Divorce Day," where inquiries skyrocket by 25%.

    But before you make a call that you cannot unmake, Susan Guthrie has a message for you: Stop. Just breathe.

    In this urgent and deeply practical solo episode, Susan reveals why the "smartest people" wait until March to file, and exactly what they do in January instead. Drawing on 35 years of practice, she breaks down the "Broken Promise" theory, the danger of the "New Year's Resolution Bomb," and why urgency is the enemy of a good divorce.

    If you are feeling the pressure to act, this episode is your permission slip to pause, plan, and protect your future before you ever step foot in a courtroom.

    IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN:

    The "Broken Promise" Theory: Why the holidays amplify marital cracks rather than fixing them.

    The January vs. March Strategy: Why amateurs rush to file in January, while strategists use the month for "vetting and verification".

    The 3 Critical Questions: What you must ask yourself before you hire a professional (hint: do you know the "business reality" of your marriage?).

    The "First Responder" Rule: Why your first call should almost never be to a lawyer—and who you should call instead.

    The Financial Reality Check: The sobering statistic about the 41% drop in household income for women post-divorce and how to prevent it.

    Mistakes to Avoid: Why hiring a "shark" out of fear is the fastest way to burn through $30,000+.

     
    FEATURED RESOURCES & DOWNLOADS:

    FREE DOWNLOAD: The "January Strategy Calendar" Don't spin your wheels this month. Susan has created a free 4-week "Pre-Season" planner to help you audit your emotions, gather financial documents, and vet professionals before you file.

    👉 Download the January Strategy Calendar Here

     
    NEW BLOG ARTICLE: "Why the Smartest People Wait Until March to File" Dive deeper into the strategy behind waiting and learn the specific steps to take right now to prepare for a better outcome. 👉 Read the Full Article Here

     
    MENTIONED EPISODES:

    "Divorce Triage" with Susan Guthrie: Learn more about selecting the right "First Responder" for your specific crisis.  https://divorcebeyond.com/divorce-triage

    "We Need to Talk" with Kate Anthony: The ultimate guide to having the "I want a divorce" conversation without blowing up your life. https://divorcebeyond.com/The-Talk

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    Make the Most of Your Listening Experience:

    If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.

    Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.

    Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

    Follow Us Online:

    Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com,

    IG: @divorceandbeyondpod

    Meet Our Host
    Susan E. Guthrie®, Esq. is one of the nation’s leading family law and mediation experts, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals and families navigate divorce and conflict with clarity and compassion. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker, trainer, and practice-building consultant.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast, where she shared her insights on gray divorce and the changing landscape of relationships. Her expertise has also been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC’s Chicago Today, among many others.

    As the creator and host of the award-winning Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with more than 3.4 million downloads, Susan brings together top experts and powerful personal stories to help listeners move through divorce and beyond with confidence, insight, and hope.

    Learn more about Susan and her work at susaneguthrie.com.

    Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

    *****************************************************************************

    A Smarter, Simpler Way to Navigate Your Divorce
    Looking for a clearer and more affordable way to move through your divorce? Check out Hello Divorce. Their guided online platform combines easy-to-follow tools with real legal and coaching support to help you complete your divorce with less stress, less confusion, and far lower costs than a traditional courtroom battle.

    They have created a special page just for Divorce & Beyond listeners. Explore your options at hellodivorce.com/susan.

    *****************************************************************************

    Opportunities for Expert Guests and Fellow Podcasters

    Partner with Divorce & Beyond
    Whether you're a podcaster looking to expand your reach or an expert ready to share your insights, Divorce & Beyond offers the perfect platform to amplify your voice.  Find out more here: https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/guest-opportunities

    *****************************************************************************

    DISCLAIMER:  THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE.  YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM
  • The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

    Co-Parenting Will Never Be Easy. BeAligned Makes It Easier: Breaking the Conflict Cycle with Trina Nudson on Divorce & Beyond #401

    22/12/2025 | 49 mins.
    As Divorce & Beyond closes out 2025, Susan Guthrie welcomes back Trina Nudson for a powerful bookend conversation exploring BeAligned, a revolutionary AI-powered reflection platform designed to help parents regulate emotions, interrupt the cycle of conflict, and problem-solve with their children’s wellbeing at the center.

    BeAligned is not another communication app, and it is not about getting co-parents to agree or behave perfectly. Instead, Trina explains how the platform meets parents where they are, supports emotional regulation in real time, and helps interrupt the conflict cycles that so often take over co-parenting relationships.

    Susan and Trina also explore how even one parent can shift the entire family dynamic, why co-parenting is about awareness rather than perfection, and how using technology intentionally can make co-parenting easier during emotionally charged moments.

    Why This Conversation Matters
    Co-parenting is hard even in intact families. Add divorce, grief, fear, and conflict, and it can feel overwhelming. Many parents know what they should do but struggle to access those tools in the moment when emotions take over.

    This conversation matters because BeAligned acknowledges the reality of human emotions and provides support in real time. It helps parents step out of fight, flight, freeze, or fawn, see the bigger picture, and create solutions that protect childhoods without relying on blame, shame, or court intervention.

    You Will Learn:

    Why it only takes one parent to shift the co-parenting dynamic

    Why co-parenting is not about perfection, but about awareness and regulation

    How BeAligned helps parents move from reaction to alignment and interrupt the cycle of conflict

    How technology can support calmer communication without replacing attorneys, therapists, or coaches

    Why focusing on children’s needs changes everything

    Special Offer from Trina Nudson and BeAligned:

    Trina is generously offering Divorce & Beyond listeners 90 days of free access to BeAligned using code BEYOND.  No credit card required. You’ll get full access to the platform’s reflection tools and support resources, and an invitation to share feedback that helps improve and expand its impact.

    Visit http://BeAligned.app to get started.

    About the Guest: 
    Trina Nudson is a family law attorney, mediator, court-appointed guardian ad litem, child advocate, Certified Divorce Coach® (CDC®), Divorce Coaching Academy® graduate (DCA®), and Licensed Bachelor Social Worker with more than 25 years of experience in the trenches of high-conflict co-parenting and family systems.

    She is the founder of The Layne Project, owner of My Child Advocate, PA, and the creator of the evidence-based BeH2O® co-parenting system and BeAligned™, an AI-powered reflection platform that helps parents move from reaction to alignment.

    Across thousands of cases, Trina has worked alongside judges, attorneys, therapists, and schools to center children’s wellbeing while helping parents navigate some of the hardest seasons of their lives. Her mission is simple and non-negotiable: safeguarding childhoods by helping adults show up with clarity, steadiness, and purpose—especially when it’s hard.

    Websites:

    BeAligned: http://bealigned.app

    BeH20: http://BeH2OCoparenting.com

    Social Media:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/trina-nudson-19b169149/

    Divorce and Beyond Appearances:

    The Business of Co-Parenting: How Neuroscience and Mindset Coaching Are Transforming Conflict into Collaboration with Trina Nudson on Divorce & Beyond

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    Make the Most of Your Listening Experience:

    If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode.

    Share this episode with friends or loved ones who need hope and healing.

    Leave a 5-star review to help us reach even more listeners.

    Follow Us Online:

    Divorce & Beyond:  https://divorceandbeyondpod.com,

    IG: @divorceandbeyondpod

    Meet Our Host
    Susan E. Guthrie®, Esq. is one of the nation’s leading family law and mediation experts, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals and families navigate divorce and conflict with clarity and compassion. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker, trainer, and practice-building consultant.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast, where she shared her insights on gray divorce and the changing landscape of relationships. Her expertise has also been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC’s Chicago Today, among many others.

    As the creator and host of the award-winning Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with more than 3.4 million downloads, Susan brings together top experts and powerful personal stories to help listeners move through divorce and beyond with confidence, insight, and hope.

    Learn more about Susan and her work at susaneguthrie.com.

    Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

    *****************************************************************************

    A Smarter, Simpler Way to Navigate Your Divorce
    Looking for a clearer and more affordable way to move through your divorce? Check out Hello Divorce. Their guided online platform combines easy-to-follow tools with real legal and coaching support to help you complete your divorce with less stress, less confusion, and far lower costs than a traditional courtroom battle.

    They have created a special page just for Divorce & Beyond listeners. Explore your options at hellodivorce.com/susan.

    *****************************************************************************

    Special Offer from Blue Mercury
    Treat yourself to luxury skincare, makeup, and fragrance favorites from Blue Mercury, your destination for beauty and self-care. Divorce & Beyond listeners receive 15% off their first order when they use the special link in the show notes. Because you deserve to look and feel your best,  inside and out.

    You must use this link to receive the 15% off on your first Blue Mercury order: https://divorcebeyond.com/Blue-Mercury

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