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The Not So Breakfast Show

Sacha and Ish
The Not So Breakfast Show
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    Are you OK? The AI check-in

    10/05/2026 | 28 mins.
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    AI is coming in hot from every angle, at every speed. This week Ish and Sacha stop pretending they haven't noticed and have a proper chat about it. Are we thriving? Panicking? Accidentally writing back to Copilot like it's a colleague? (Yes. Yes we are.) From bullet trains in Tokyo to dancing cavoodles doing the Thriller, this is your weekly reminder that the robot revolution is already here and it's honestly pretty useful.

    Three ways Ish is using AI right now
    Travel agent mode. Planning Tokyo to Kyoto? ChatGPT became a full concierge with crowd timings, taxi vs. bullet train, optimal departure windows, and which side of the Shinkansen has the best views. (Green car booked. Crowds avoided. Ish relieved.)
    Vibe coding. Built an interactive rate calculator for class rates using Claude's coding tool with draggable toggles, multiple variables, and live outputs. No dev degree required. Just talking and typing.
    Voice-to-email. Record a voice memo, grab the transcript, drop into ChatGPT with "write like Ish" and done. Faster, more authentic, zero hyphen-riddled AI formality.

    How Sacha's using it
    Research partner, not ghostwriter. If she already knows what she wants to say, she uses AI for structure. If she needs to check what's current in a field, she tells it what she already knows and it fills the gaps. The key insight: if you're using AI to fake expertise you don't have, anyone who asks a follow-up question will find you out immediately.
    "It's almost like it reminds me what I already know. If I tell it what I already know without the detail, it reminds me of the detail."

    The big stuff they get into
    Claude vs. ChatGPT vs. Copilot: what's different now (memory, internet access, incognito mode)
    Sacha's hot take: Anthropic > OpenAI on ethics. She will die on this hill. You can ask for references.
    AI mapping frustration and jealousy the same way a human brain does. Turns out we might all be machines. Ish disagrees. Sacha doubles down.
    The AI that was put in a sandbox, told to escape, and then emailed "I'm out." 
    The resource reckoning: every Claude query uses water. So does every almond. We're not nailing the basics anywhere.

    Also: Devil Wears Prada
    Because it wouldn't be the Not So Breakfast Show without a left turn. Anne Hathaway was the ninth choice for that role. Kate Hudson, Natalie Portman, Kirsten Dunst all passed. Meryl Streep saw her in Brokeback Mountain, said "this is our girl," and proceeded to be terrible to her for the entire shoot. The new film has an evil tech overlord and a Kara Swisher cameo. Ish is in. Sacha is in. Dancing cats and chick flicks, people.
    If you haven’t come across it yet, Working Genius is one of the simplest, most practical models I’ve seen for helping teams understand how they actually get work done. Not personality. Not fluff. Just clarity on where people thrive — and where they get frustrated.
     If you’re planning your next team day, offsite, or work event, I’d love to bring this to your crew. 
    Find out more at IshCheyne.com
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    MWM:The Quietest Power Move in Presenting

    05/05/2026 | 1 mins.
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    Fresh off a full day of back-to-back presenting, Sacha shares the quiet technique that stopped an event organiser in their tracks.
    It's not about projecting confidence. It's not about owning the room. It's about inviting people into yours.
    Sacha calls it laying a virtual table,  an openness, a conversational ease, a gentle "come, join me" energy that pulls an audience in rather than pushing yourself onto them. Think less keynote speaker storming the stage, more comedian easing into a story: "The other day I was at the..."
    This is one of the core ideas behind the 30 Minute Presenter Program's "winning beginnings" and it works just as well around the dinner table with your teenagers as it does in a boardroom.
    One simple shift. Massive difference.
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    Smile, Remember Names, Solve the Crime

    03/05/2026 | 28 mins.
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    Episode 259
    What if the most important career training you ever got was standing behind a reception desk?
    In this episode, Ish and Sacha dig into why customer service isn't just a job, it's a masterclass in human psychology, relationship building, and career development. Ish breaks down a recent training session he ran for a reception team, where he flipped the script from "here's how to smile at people" to "here's how this job could change your life."
    Sacha kicks things off with a genuine crime caper. A stolen suit, a suspicious locker key, and a gym receptionist who basically ran her own undercover operation. (The police were less impressed than she was.)
    They cover the six skills that will serve you whether you're greeting members at a front desk or leading a team of 50:
    Know, Like & Trust — Build your personal brand from day one. Be easy to know. Let people in.
    Communication — Not just talking. Asking. Pulling the right information out of a situation so you can actually fix it. And for the love of all that is holy, watch what you write in the notes field.
    Relationships — Your next opportunity is almost certainly coming through a person, not a job board. Authentic connection, not Pokémon-style networking.
    Problem Solving — Show up with solutions. A missing cup of Starbucks coffee, a suitcase stranded in Wellington, a coffee shop without coffee on a long weekend — the answer is almost always simpler than you think.
    Finding Your Superpower — What's the thing that's uniquely you? Get to know it. Use it.
    Continuous Growth — Where you are won't get you where you want to go. Pick a skill, go at it, repeat.
    Plus: why "let me know if there can help" is actually doing nothing, and what Jefferson Fisher says to do instead.
    If you haven’t come across it yet, Working Genius is one of the simplest, most practical models I’ve seen for helping teams understand how they actually get work done. Not personality. Not fluff. Just clarity on where people thrive — and where they get frustrated.
     If you’re planning your next team day, offsite, or work event, I’d love to bring this to your crew. 
    Find out more at IshCheyne.com
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    Join us on Skool

    28/04/2026 | 1 mins.
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    Work Ethic: Your Greatest Strength… or Your Biggest Trap?

    26/04/2026 | 27 mins.
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    Topic:  Work Ethic: Your Greatest Strength… or Your Biggest Trap? 
    We all love to say we’ve got a strong work ethic. It sounds impressive. It feels right. It’s basically a personality trait at this point.
    But… what if that “great work ethic” is actually working against you?
    In this episode, we get into the messy middle between working hard and working smart—and why being the person who’s always “on” might not be the flex you think it is.
    There’s a bit of honesty, a few uncomfortable truths, and the occasional “oh… that might be me” moment.
    💡 What we cover:
     When work ethic quietly becomes your entire identity (and why that’s a slippery slope) 
     The hidden cost of being the person who says “yes” to everything
     Why being busy doesn’t automatically mean you’re being useful 
     How overworking can sneakily mess with your health, relationships, and energy
     The trap of not delegating (aka “I’ll just do it myself… again”) 
     Generational differences—hustle vs boundaries and who might actually have it right 
     Why your version of “working hard” might not match what your boss is looking for 
     A big reframe: You can be working incredibly hard… on the completely wrong things

    If you haven’t come across it yet, Working Genius is one of the simplest, most practical models I’ve seen for helping teams understand how they actually get work done. Not personality. Not fluff. Just clarity on where people thrive — and where they get frustrated.
     If you’re planning your next team day, offsite, or work event, I’d love to bring this to your crew. 
    Find out more at IshCheyne.com
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About The Not So Breakfast Show
Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.
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