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The Not So Breakfast Show

Sacha and Ish
The Not So Breakfast Show
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    Help Us Grow The Show

    17/1/2026 | 1 mins.
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    Season 8 Announcement: Help Us Grow!
    Happy New Year 2026! A quick message before Season 8 drops. We're excited to bring you more leadership, career development, and occasional chaos - but we need your help to grow the show.
    Three Ways You Can Help:
    Share an Episode - If there's an episode you enjoyed, share it with one person who'd get a laugh or a takeaway. Seriously, this is the best way for us to reach new listeners.
    Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts - A five-star rating and even a sentence or two review makes a huge difference. The algorithm loves it and puts us in front of new audiences.
    Take Our 2-Minute Survey - We've put a link in the show notes. Tell us what you're enjoying and what would make the show even better.
    SURVEY LINK 
    Don't Want to Do Any of That?
    That's totally fine! Just keep listening. We love having you in the crew.
    Coming Soon:
    Season 8 launches very soon
    Planning a live Not So Breakfast Show recording (details coming)
    Thanks for being part of this. See you in Season 8!
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    Episode 246: Christmas Parties, Career-Limiting Moments & Season Seven Wrap-Up

    21/12/2025 | 24 mins.
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    Episode 246: Christmas Parties, Career-Limiting Moments & Season Seven Wrap-Up
    Sacha's in her pyjamas in Raglan (it was Coffee Culture's "Oops, I'm at the Wrong Party" themed Christmas party a week ago, she's just still wearing them), while Ish is fresh off winning a dance-off at their ABBA vs Spice Girls costume showdown at music bingo. As they wrap season seven with 246 episodes, they dive into Christmas party culture, the "no free willy" pyjama party rules, and why being first on the dance floor is actually good leadership.
    Main Topics
    Christmas Parties Then vs. Now -- Less drunken carnage, more intentional fun. The question isn't whether "woke gone wild" killed parties, it's whether we've lost the ability to connect in real life without alcohol-fueled chaos as entertainment.
    The ABBA Dance-Off Victory -- Ish's team went as ABBA, got roped into TikToks by younger teammate Millie before the party, then won the costume contest dance-off when "Dancing Queen" played (the exact song they'd just practised)—multi-generational teamwork for the win.
    Coffee Culture's Theme Mastery -- "Oops, I'm at the Wrong Party" meant people came as bachelorettes, Halloween, and baby showers. Head office chose a pyjama party, leading to Sacha's critical briefing about appropriate underwear layering.
    The Leadership Responsibility Gap -- Someone needs to monitor the party end-to-end: Who's too drunk? Who's getting home safely? Is there enough food? Are people eating? The organiser can't just be "all in" - they need to stay responsible.
    Dance Floor Leadership -- If you've paid for a DJ from 8-12, leaders should start dancing at 8:30, not wait 2.5 hours for someone to get courage. Being first to dance or talking to wallflowers isn't brand-damaging; it's culture-building.
    Bottom Line
    Christmas parties work when leaders take responsibility for safety AND fun. Being first to dance, talking to wallflowers, and cross-pollinating departments is good leadership. 

    Have a great Christmas! We'll see you in 2026 with season 8
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    Episode 245: Hustle Culture: Is Working Harder Still Worth It?

    14/12/2025 | 28 mins.
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    Episode 245 - Hustle Culture: Is Working Harder Still Worth It?
    Episode Summary
    Ish wins the Exercise New Zealand Award for Outstanding Contribution to the Fitness Industry (and wasn't even there!), while Sacha hustles across the South Island. This leads to a deep conversation about hustle culture, rise and grind mentality, and whether working harder actually gets you ahead anymore. 
    Plus: AI end of the world chat, and why the younger generation wants their technology separated again.
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    Episode MWM - What's The One Thing For The Week?

    10/12/2025 | 2 mins.
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    Midweek Mini - What's The One Thing For The Week?
    Why One Thing? – You have 52 opportunities in a year to get one thing nailed each week. Clarity breeds genius.
    Focus vs. Urgent – The one thing for the week isn't necessarily the most urgent thing—it's the meaningful longer-term thing that needs attention.
    The Exercise – Dump everything that needs doing on paper, then identify the overarching focus that sums up what success looks like for the next 7 days
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    Episode 243: Bad Words & Breaking Points

    07/12/2025 | 21 mins.
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    The Not So Breakfast Show - Bad Words & Breaking Points

    Sometimes you reach the end. The absolute end. Sacha is moving house, dealing with impossible transactions, and has just discovered the movers left three massive items behind. Ish is surprisingly recharged from mini-breaks and witnessing his co-host process what happens when resilience runs out. This is a raw, real conversation about those moments when life is genuinely hard—and how to hold onto the "but it's worth it" part.
    Key Topics Discussed
    When You Reach The End
    Recognising you're at your breaking point (and that's a skill)
    Over-the-top emotional responses when resilience is at an all-time low
    The ability to recognise you're losing it while staying (relatively) calm
    Life Is Hard, But It's Worth It
    The mantra that's getting Sacha through:
    Acknowledging that yes, life IS hard right now
    Focusing on what's coming on the other side
    Making the learning about yourself worth it
    Asking: "How can something horrible be useful? What am I learning about myself?"

    Memorable Quotes
    "Would it be all right if everybody just today, just on this day, just did their jobs? Is it too much to ask of the people around me to just do the job that I coincidentally have paid you a lot of money to do?"

    Key Lessons for Leaders
    Recognise Your Breaking Point: The ability to identify when you're at the end is itself a valuable skill
    Reframe the Narrative: "Life is hard, but it's worth it" - hold onto the second part
    Find the Learning: Ask "What am I learning about myself right now?" even in horrible situations
    Control Your Controllables: Change your clothes, drink water, take micro-pauses
    Notice Small Joys: Small moments that don't require coordination

    The Not So Breakfast Show - A podcast for leadership and career development
    Sometimes the best episodes come from the worst days.
    Life is hard, but it's worth it.

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About The Not So Breakfast Show

Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.
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