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The Principals (Aotearoa | New Zealand)

Podcast The Principals (Aotearoa | New Zealand)
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Experienced school leaders and officials share stories and offer tips about leading schools in Aotearoa New Zealand. This series sits alongside the online learn...

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  • Episode 22: Supporting Maōri ākonga
    New Zealand's education system has under-served Māori learners for a long time. As a result, the 97% of Māori learners in English-medium settings collectively experience worse education outcomes than other learners and are less engaged in the education system.  Today we’re going to talk to three principals who have worked to turn around learning and achievement for Māori ākonga in their English-medium schools.   My guests are: Tom Paekau, principal of Merivale School in Tauranga Bruce Jepsen, manukura of Te Akatea - Māori Principals Ngahina Transom, tumuaki of Frimley School in Hastings   This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.   You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Show notes Episode themes: Contributors to poor learning outcomes in a school Dealing with kaiako who engage in deficit theorising Role of tumuaki as rangatira in leading the journey of improvement Utilising the Ka Hikitea - Ka Hāpaitia (Māori education strategy) frameworks to help support and guide you through the policy around Māori experiencing success as Māori. Approaches to learning, teaching and PLD used to support Māori experiencing success as Māori.   Additional information Ka Hikitea – Ka Hāpaitia Māori education strategy https://www.education.govt.nz/our-work/overall-strategies-and-policies/ka-hikitia-ka-hapaitia Te Akatea Māori Principals https://www.teakatea.co.nz/   Questions 2:21 [All] What do you think contributes to poor learning outcomes in a school?   5:38 [All]  Have you worked with kaiako who do engage in deficit theorizing? And if so, how did you turn them around?   10:58 [Tom] What did people tell you about Merivale School before you started at the kura?   13:17 [Tom] What kinds of changes did you make that had such a massive impact?   15:03 [Bruce] How did you turn around your kura, what did you focus on?   16:57 [Bruce] What practical steps did you take to improve the way your ākonga were learning?   18:54 [Ngahina] Can you tell me about your part in turning around Frimley School?   24:32 [Ngahina] What professional learning and development do your kaiako do?   27:09 [Tom] Do you take a similar approach to PLD for your kaiako in your kura?
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  • Episode 21: Looking after yourself
    The principal role can be both demanding and complex. It requires a lot of managerial and administrative tasks, you're the professional leader of the school and you have responsibility for and oversight of others, and your workload may feel overwhelming at first. It's absolutely essential that you take time to look after yourself. If this episode raises concerns for your own health, please talk to someone you trust or see your doctor. If you need to speak to someone now, contact: 1737, Need to talk? Free call or text 1737 to talk to a trained counsellor. Anxiety New Zealand 0800 ANXIETY (0800 269 4389) Depression.org.nz 0800 111 757 or text 4202 Lifeline 0800 543 354 Rural Support Trust 0800 787 254 Alcohol and drug helpline 0800 787 797 If it is an emergency, call 111.   My guests are: Mārama Stewart, former tumuaki and leadership advisor for the Ministry of Education Robin Fabish, former tumuaki and leadership advisor for the Ministry of Education Lesley Murrihy, former principal, now chief advisor in Te Poutāhu, the curriculum centre of the Ministry of Education.   This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.   You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Show notes Episode themes: Things you can do when you first start as tumuaki to help your wellbeing in the longer term. No one solution fits everyone - different people need different things to sustain their wellbeing. The wide range of stresses that can impact a principal’s wellbeing. Importance of having a team of people you can lean on and call for advice or support – coaches, mentors, colleagues, Ministry of Education experts – when you need help. Don’t be afraid to spend school money on a quality coach, because you being properly supported will ultimately benefit your school. Learning to balance the parts of yourself in relation to the principal role. Dangers of using alcohol or other substances to cope with stresses. The importance of prioritising self-care – how you do that and what you feel is most important is up to you. Ways to prioritise your to-do list. Burnout, and ways to pull yourself back from the brink by decentering work in your life. The importance of delegation. Being ‘lonely at the top’ is a choice, not a given. Connecting with others is really important. Supports you can tap into as a tumuaki.   Additional information Stephen Covey – rocks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV3gMTOEWt8      Questions 1:31 [All] When you first step into the role as tumuaki, what are some of the things that you can do to help your well-being in the long term?   6:04 [All] What kinds of stresses can impact on a principal's wellbeing?   13:32 [All] And is it that that constant juggle between priorities and of the different parts of you that you need to pay attention to that makes self-care such a challenge for tumuaki?   16:41 [All] What are the what are the dangers that come with not looking after yourself?    20:08 [All] How did you go about prioritizing your work to make sure that you did what you needed to do, but also didn't stress yourselves out trying to do it all? [burnout discussed in this answer]   32:51 [All] What did you do for your own wellbeing when you were tumuaki?   36:07 [All] What's your best advice for new tumuaki about looking after themselves?
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  • Episode 20: Student mental health
    The mental health needs of tamariki and rangatahi have undoubtedly increased post-COVID, and schools are often the places where these issues emerge because of the relationships between teachers, young people and their whānau. Getting mental health support for students can be difficult, which can make looking after the wellbeing of students difficult. But there are things schools can do, and others they must do, to look after the wellbeing of their ākonga.   My guests are: Ngaire Ashmore, tumuaki of Auckland Girls’ Grammar School Partick Walsh, principal of Sacred Heart College   This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.   You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Show notes Episode themes: High levels of anxiety in students impacting on their mental health, along with other things like concern about being behind in learning after covid, tough economic times impacting home life, state of the world and climate anxiety, and all is heightened by online access. Low levels of resilience. Legal requirements around mental health of ākonga should be recorded in school charter, Health and Safety Act requirements are for safe physical space and safe emotional and psychologically safe school. Importance of building a culture where parents and students feel safe to raise concerns, a culture of caring and a culture that everyone counts. The need to slow down and really understand things that are happening in your school by doing surveys and talking to the students. Particular risk areas Teachers are often the first port of call if a student is feeling low, but they’re not trained as counsellors. They need to know they should refer the student on to the counsellor, or to the principal if there is no counsellor. Be aware of triggers for those with emotional and mental health issues eg school ball for those with body image issues or gender identity issues. International students often fall through the cracks so it’s important to make sure someone is reaching out and supporting them. Mental health issues are sometimes dealt with differently in different cultures. Use your staff or community to help you navigate this. Importance of principal’s relationship with counsellor. Make sure you meet regularly and keep an eye on what is happening with student mental health so you can take action if needed. Process when student is in need. What happens if a student takes their own life, and rules around talking about it. Looking after your own wellbeing around incidents like this.   Additional information Health and Safety https://www.education.govt.nz/education-professionals/schools-year-0-13/health-and-safety NZCER wellbeing@school survey https://www.nzcer.org.nz/assessments/surveys/wellbeing-at-school Stymie https://about.stymie.co.nz   Questions   1:00 [Both] What kinds of mental health issues are you seeing in your kura?   5:21 [Patrick] Are there legal requirements for tumuaki around mental health of tamariki and rangatahi?   14:03 [Both] How can a new principal can get a handle on the level of need around mental health within a kura when they first start?   16:20 [Both] If a school counsellor is extremely concerned about a particular student, are they likely to come to a tumuaki with those concerns, and if so, how does a tumuaki respond?    17:46 [Both] What if there is no counsellor and it's just you. How do you handle it at that point?    19:12 [Both] Where there is a need for a student to have more support, it is increasingly difficult to be able to help them find that support. How do you handle that?   21:42 [Both] If the worst happens and a student takes their own life, what happens in a school, what does a tumuaki do?   23:40 [Patrick] What are the rules about what you can and can't say about the death?   25:19 [Both] What kinds of things can you do to to help yourself through something like that? Because you don't come away from it unscathed.   26:34 [Both] What's your advice to new tumuaki around trying to help tamariki and rangatahi deal with just the myriad of mental health challenges they face today?
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  • Episode 19: Managing extreme crises
    In this episode, we continue talking about crisis management, including extreme weather events and events that can’t be foreseen, like the Christchurch mosque attack.   My guests are: Rowan Milburn, principal at Te Puna Wai o Waipapa - Hagley College Nori Parata, tumuaki at Tolaga Bay Area School and Kahukuranui Kevin Bush, regional leadership advisor, Ministry of Education   This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.   You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Show notes Episode themes: Dealing with extreme weather events and the impact they have on a kura and its community Thinking outside the box when it comes to working out ways for kids to learn when they can’t get to school Trying to anticipate and plan for likely scenarios Importance of collaboration and reciprocation with community leaders, iwi leaders, agencies before an event so you have those contacts to call on in times of crisis How Hagley High School, which is close to the Al Noor Mosque, responded during and after the attack on the mosque Roles and responsibilities of the school crisis management team and how they worked in practise School as a civil defence centre The process of recovery from collective trauma of events eg. releasing Muslim staff to be with their community, being aware of triggers (eg lockdown alarm) for students and staff, talking openly about what happened and allowing people to have a voice, doing things that bring people comfort or joy.   Additional information Emergencies and traumatic incidents https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/ Responding after a crisis https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/responding-after-a-crisis/ Preparing for emergencies, traumatic incidents, evacuations and lockdowns https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/preparing-for-emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/ (links to emergency management plan templates and emergency planning guide) Nine-step checklist https://assets.education.govt.nz/public/Documents/School/Traumatic-incidents-and-emergencies/Traumatic-Incidents-Checklist-2018.pdf   Questions 00:57 [Nori] Can you tell me about the weather events that have affected Tolaga Bay in recent years?   1:20 [Nori] How do those weather events affect the kura?    2:17 [Nori] How do you plan for these events, knowing as you do now that they’re becoming more and more frequent?    8:13 [Rowan] Nori was talking about things that you can anticipate there. But one thing no one really saw coming was the Christchurch mosque attacks. Can you tell me how that unfolded for you?   17:44 [Rowan] So the collective trauma from events like that, how do you as a leader help your ākonga and staff through these things?   25:46 [All] Did any of you want to add anything else?
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  • Episode 18: Crisis management
    All sorts of emergencies, traumatic incidents, evacuations and lockdowns may impact on your kura, and as tumuaki you will lead the response.   In this episode, we’ll talk about planning for incidents where you can, and where you can get help with your response to them.   My guests are: Rowan Milburn, principal at Te Puna Wai o Waipapa - Hagley College Nori Parata, tumuaki at Tolaga Bay Area School and Kahukuranui Kevin Bush, regional leadership advisor, Ministry of Education   This podcast was produced for the Ministry of Education as part of Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals.   You can learn more about this topic by accessing Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki - The Beginning Pathway for Principals e-learning modules on the Education LMS: https://training.education.govt.nz   Show notes Episode themes: Crisis planning Preparation for serious incidents Crisis management teams and their roles Traumatic incident teams and what they do Emergency planning guidelines and checklist   Additional information Emergencies and traumatic incidents https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/ Responding after a crisis https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/responding-after-a-crisis/ Preparing for emergencies, traumatic incidents, evacuations and lockdowns https://www.education.govt.nz/school/health-safety-and-wellbeing/emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/preparing-for-emergencies-and-traumatic-incidents/ (links to emergency management plan templates and emergency planning guide) Nine-step checklist https://assets.education.govt.nz/public/Documents/School/Traumatic-incidents-and-emergencies/Traumatic-Incidents-Checklist-2018.pdf   Questions 1:52 [Kevin] Emergency planning is really important for a kura, what kinds of things should a tumuaki ensure is covered in a school's emergency planning?    3:06 [Kevin] What kinds of things should your emergency management plans cover?   3:31 [Kevin] Aside from the plans themselves, what other preparation should schools be doing to prepare for emergencies and other incidents?    5:00 [Kevin] Tell me about crisis management teams within a school.   6:18 [Rowan and Nori] How are your crisis management teams made up?    8:20 [Kevin] Can you tell me about Traumatic Incident teams and what they do?    10:07 [Kevin] The emergency planning guide and nine point checklist – can you tell me a bit more about those?    11:30 [Kevin] What kinds of things do the guidelines cover?    12:00 [Kevin] What are the most common crises that you see in your role as a member of a traumatic incident team?   12:54 [Nori and Rowan] At which point would you call in the Ministry's traumatic incident team?   15:27 [Nori] What kinds of crises and emergencies have you dealt with in your 27 years?
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Experienced school leaders and officials share stories and offer tips about leading schools in Aotearoa New Zealand. This series sits alongside the online learning programme: Te Ara Tīmatanga mō ngā Tumuaki | The Beginning Pathway for Principals, which can be accessed on the Education LMS https://training.education.govt.nz.
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