
#71: Harry Dalton – Father at 18, $300K Loss, and the Hard Truth About Success
04/11/2025 | 1h 19 mins.
At 18, Harry became a dad. By his mid-twenties, he was running a growing marketing agency, working with big clients and living what looked like success from the outside. But in 2024, his business was hit hard, losing over $300,000 in a matter of months. It forced him to rethink everything he thought he knew about business, success, and happiness. Now, Harry is rebuilding from the ground up with In-House Academy, a marketing school built from the lessons of his failures and his drive to help others do things differently. This conversation unpacks what happens when everything falls apart, and why sometimes losing it all is the best thing that can happen to you! Please remember to hit subscribe, click follow or rate 5 stars, it helps the pod grow! Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/ Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/ Academy In-House - https://academyinhouse.com/ Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/?hl=en Harry's Insta – https://www.instagram.com/mrdaltonharris/?hl=en Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/?hl=en

#70: Lizi Guest – Building a Business Through Chaos and Daughters Health Mystery
08/7/2025 | 1h 7 mins.
At 20, Lizi became pregnant while studying, went on the benefit, finished her degree, and launched an award-winning agency by 27 and cleared her debt, all while being a young Mum. But life changed again when her eldest daughter (12) suddenly lost her memory every few days, in a bizarre condition that they are still seeking answers for. Lizi shares some business lessons, what resilience really looks like, and how she keeps moving forward when life refuses to slow down. Lizi's story about her daughter is devastating, but I know they will find a solution soon! Please remember to hit subscribe, click follow or rate 5 stars, it helps the pod grow! Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/ Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/ Lizi Guest LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/liziguest/ Little and Loud PR Agency - https://littleandloud.co.nz/ Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/ Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/ Beyond the Surface YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@beyondthesurfacenz Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1WSsV1pMID1dkHbBL?si=ae3f007dd7794cde

#69: Melodownz – The Price of NZ Fame, Collabs With Denzel Curry and Untold Stories
24/6/2025 | 46 mins.
Melodownz has been on my guest hitlist since starting the show. From tagging in Tāmaki to collaborating with Denzel Curry and Israel Adesanya, and launching a hot sauce brand, running Kava Corner interviewing some of NZ's biggest names, Melowdownz has never been one to stay in his lane. In this episode, we unpack his journey from growing up in Avondale by his solo Mum, the impact of losing close friends to violence and suicide, to the deep personal reflections that have shaped his work today and advice for young people. We explore his early influences, mental health, youth mentoring, and the realities of life behind the music. We also talk about his highly anticipated new album, Melo & Bass, and what this next chapter means for him as both a creative and a man. A candid and powerful kōrero with one of Aotearoa's most thoughtful voices in hip hop. Please remember to hit subscribe, click follow or rate 5 stars, it helps the pod grow! Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/ Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/ Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/ Melowdonz Insta – https://www.instagram.com/melowdownz/ Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/ Beyond the Surface YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@beyondthesurfacenz Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1WSsV1pMID1dkHbBL?si=ae3f007dd7794cde

#67: Jase Te Patu – Fixing NZ's Mental Health Crisis, Tips For Mental Wellness and Purpose
17/6/2025 | 1h 4 mins.
Jase Te Patu has lived many lives. World-class athlete, international performer, TEDx speaker, and founder of one of Aotearoa's most impactful mental health programmes for youth, Hauora Aotearoa. But his story starts in Whanganui, raised by his Nan and Koro, having never met his mum and losing his dad to absence. In this conversation, Jase opens up about the belief he carried for years, that he was unworthy and unlovable, and how that pain drove his pursuit of excellence. We talk about grief, identity, and the state of youth mental health in New Zealand. We also talk about hope, what keeps him going, and what a better future could look like if we're willing to show up and do the work! Hope you enjoy this episode! Please remember to hit subscribe, click follow or rate 5 stars, it helps the pod grow! Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/ Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/ Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/ Jase Te Patu - https://www.instagram.com/jasetepatu/?hl=en Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/ Beyond the Surface YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@beyondthesurfacenz Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1WSsV1pMID1dkHbBL?si=ae3f007dd7794cde

#67: Barbara Edmonds – NZ's Future Finance Minister, Growing Up Broke, What Jacinda Was Really Like
10/6/2025 | 1h 5 mins.
The first "honourable" guest on the pod, Barbara Edmonds wears many hats, former Cabinet Minister, specialist tax lawyer, and mother of eight. In this episode, she shares her path into politics, from living in poverty to what she's learned along the way, and the often unseen realities of life in Parliament. We unpack what it was like working alongside Jacinda Ardern, how she balances family and public service, and the pressures that come with both. Barbara also offers her take on what many young people misunderstand about politics and the economy, and why bridging that gap matters. A thoughtful, grounded conversation with New Zealand's future Finance Minister, Really enjoyed this ep! Hope you do too, regardless of where you sit politically. Please remember to hit subscribe, click follow or rate 5 stars, it helps the pod grow! Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/ Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/ Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/ Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/ Barbara Edmonds Insta – https://www.instagram.com/barbara_edmonds_mp_/?hl=en Beyond the Surface YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@beyondthesurfacenz Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1WSsV1pMID1dkHbBL?si=ae3f007dd7794cde Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/



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