Beyond the Surface

James Fuller is the Co-Founder and CEO of Hnry, one of New Zealand's fastest growing fintech companies (nearly a billion dollar business), now processing income for hundreds of thousands of sole traders across Aotearoa and beyond.
In this conversation, James shares the real story behind building Hnry, from spotting the opportunity early with his wife, to navigating the uncertainty, pressure and setbacks that come with scaling a company responsible for handling a growing share of New Zealand's tax system.
We also unpack one of Hnry's boldest moves yet, securing the naming rights to Sky Stadium, now Hnry Stadium, why they did it, what the process looked like behind the scenes, and whether it was a calculated strategic play or a massive risk.
Beyond the business headlines, we talk about the highs and lows of founding a company, the hardest decisions James has had to make as CEO, moments of self doubt, and what genuinely keeps him up at night while leading a company trusted by hundreds of thousands of people.
Moana Road – https://moanaroad.co.nz/
Hnry – https://hnry.co.nz/ 
Beyond the Surface – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/
Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/
YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@beyondthesurfacenz

This episode features Xara Jetly, one of New Zealand's most exciting cricketers from the Blaze and an absolute weapon on and off the field (you'll see why when you watch this episode).
We cover her latest championship win with the Blaze, being steered toward elite sport at a young age, and the pivotal family meeting at 13 after her netball coach told her she would never be a Silver Fern.
Xara opens up about shutting down sexist haters and how she juggles university, professional cricket, and content creation for her 150k plus followers, while still thinking deeply about what comes next, you ever dreamed about starting your own IVF clinic?!
She reflects on being told she would never represent the White Ferns because she "didn't work hard enough", and how that moment shaped her mindset more than any trophy ever could. Xara also shares what people do not see behind the highlights, and what it is really like working alongside Amelia Kerr.
Xara's honesty, work rate, and self-belief make this one I know a lot of you will resonate with! If you enjoyed the episode, please hit subscribe, follow the show, or leave a five-star rating. It genuinely helps the pod grow! Chur.
Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/
Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/
Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/?hl=en
 Xara Jetly Insta – https://www.instagram.com/xara.jetly/?hl=en
 Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/?hl=en
Beyond the Surface Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1WSsV1pMID1dkHbBL

In this episode, Pasilio Tosi opens up about the parts of his journey that rarely get talked about.
Growing up in Levin, taking the harder road through Southland and Bay of Plenty, changing positions later than most after gaining a few kegs during lockdown, and learning to put ego aside to keep moving forward.
Pasi shares what surprised him most about the All Blacks environment, the standards that go unspoken, and the mindset shifts. Enjoy whanau!
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Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/
Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/
 Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/?hl=en 
Pasi Insta – https://www.instagram.com/pasiliotosi18/?hl=en
 Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/?hl=en

First ep of the year! Zion Perry lives a pretty unique double life. He studied Ecology, works in conservation, and in his spare time is also a national champion Muay Thai fighter and the latest King in the Ring champion. 
KITR is the most prestigious combat sport event in New Zealand, with previous champs being Israel Adesanya and Carlos Ulberg.
In this episode, we talk about what it actually feels like to step into the ring, the nerves before a fight, and how mindfulness plays a role when everything is on the line. Zion breaks down his recent King in the Ring run, what that win meant for him, and what's next as he transitions into MMA, heads to Thailand, and chases a pathway towards the UFC.
Enjoy!
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Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/
Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/
Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/?hl=en
 Zion's Insta – https://www.instagram.com/zion_perry/?hl=en
Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/?hl=en
 Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/4ZArq1W..

At 18, Harry became a dad. By his mid-twenties, he was running a growing marketing agency, working with big clients and living what looked like success from the outside.
But in 2024, his business was hit hard, losing over $300,000 in a matter of months. It forced him to rethink everything he thought he knew about business, success, and happiness.
Now, Harry is rebuilding from the ground up with In-House Academy, a marketing school built from the lessons of his failures and his drive to help others do things differently.
This conversation unpacks what happens when everything falls apart, and why sometimes losing it all is the best thing that can happen to you!
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Moana Road (Use Discount Code BTS20 for 20% off!) – https://moanaroad.co.nz/
 Kaboose Media – https://www.kaboosemedia.co.nz/
Academy In-House - https://academyinhouse.com/
 Noa Woolloff Insta – https://www.instagram.com/noawoolloff/?hl=en
Harry's Insta – https://www.instagram.com/mrdaltonharris/?hl=en
 Beyond the Surface Insta – https://www.instagram.com/beyond_the_surfacenz/?hl=en