We're back together! And we're recording in Kenz's stomping grounds of Vero Beach. We dove into what it really looks like to build deeper, more meaningful friendships. We vulnerably shared our own struggles with loneliness, miscommunication, and seasons where friendships have felt hard. Using our own journey as a model, we outlined 7 simple yet powerful ways to pursue authentic connection. Whether you're in a season of abundance or feeling disconnected, this episode is filled with practical encouragement to go deeper with the people around you.
In This Episode
[00:00] Mac Visits Vero Beach & Water Bottle Drama
[04:30] A Word to Our OG Listeners & Podcast Growth Ask
[08:50] Why We’re Talking About Friendship
[10:45] Tip #1: Pursue Them
[13:15] Tip #2: Pray for Them
[17:50] Tip #3: Practice Curiosity
[22:40] Tip #4: Prioritize Honesty
[27:30] Tip #5: Participate in Their World
[32:15] Tip #6: Process the Hard Stuff
[37:20] Tip #7: Push Each Other Toward Jesus
[42:00] Final Encouragement to Take the First Step
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An Honestly R-Rated Love Story: How Josh and Kenz Met
In this hilarious, unfiltered, and deeply real episode, Kenz and her husband Josh finally sit down to share their full relationship story—the "rated R" version (okay, not that R-rated, but more real than usual!). From awkward dating app experiences to their messy first kiss and all the bumps in between, they hold nothing back. You’ll hear about cold shoulders, unexpected speeches, long-distance blunders, and how God met them in the middle of their mess. Whether you're single, dating, or married, this story will have you laughing, cringing, and maybe tearing up too. The ultimate reminder that God writes the best (and sometimes the most surprising) love stories.
In This Episode
[01:30] Josh’s Single Life + Bumble Disasters
[05:00] Kenz’s Dating Vibes + The "Sad & Single" Years
[08:15] Their First Meeting at a Cocktail Bar
[10:40] Cold Shoulder & Dear Diary Moments
[12:15] The Church Encounter That Changed Everything
[13:30] The DM Slide + The Most Awkward First Date
[15:00] Kiss in the Car + Mistakes Were Made
[17:00] Too Much Too Soon
[19:00] Ghosted... Then Reconnected
[20:15] Wedding Invite + Officially Dating
[21:30] Falling In Love During a Hard Season
[23:00] Why Character Outshines Success
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Kenz's Birth Story + Postpartum
Okay, friends—today is a super special episode because I have my husband Josh on the podcast with me! We’re telling the full story of how baby Chip came into the world…and let me tell you, it was not what we expected. From thinking I’d just walk into the hospital and get the epidural (lol) to watching a Bin Laden documentary while laboring (double lol), things escalated fast and got real intense. We talk about everything—the painful wait for the epidural, my back labor, Josh going full Enneagram 8 on the nurses, and the sweetest moment when we paused to pray and God showed up big. This episode is raw, funny, and deeply personal. So grateful to share this one with you!
In This Episode
[06:00] Labor Begins... During a War Documentary?We realize I’m in early labor, and yes—we’re watching an Osama Bin Laden documentary instead of listening to Oceans.
[09:00] The Hospital Experience: Confusion, Back Labor & No EpiduralThey didn’t believe I was in labor (spoiler: I was). Then we waited over two hours for an epidural while I was in major pain.
[14:00] Josh Goes Full Enneagram 8 & I Hit My LimitJosh has a throwdown with the nurses while I contemplate accepting fentanyl (!!!). We stop to pray—and God really met us.
[18:00] Redemption in the Chaos + Chip is Here
The anesthesiologist finally shows up. I go from 7cm to pushing, but the wireless monitor throws us off. Once I trust my gut, Chip is born in five minutes.
[26:00] Processing the Birth + What We’d Do Differently
We reflect on how hospital staff impacted our experience and what we’d change if there’s a baby #3.[30:30] Meet Chip: How We Picked His Name
Chip James Durham, y’all! We unpack the story behind the name—including the spicy alternatives like Chip Danger and Chip Legend.
[33:30] Life With Two Kids: The Beautiful Chaos
What it’s been like going from one to two, how we’re adjusting, and why we’re soaking in every smile from baby Chip.
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How God Uses Your Past To Shape Who You Are Becoming w/ Tony Miltenberger
This episode is for the girl who's walking through pain, disappointment, or healing from a past she never asked for. Mac and Kenz sit down with author, veteran, coach, and fellow Swiftie — Tony Miltenberger to unpack the deep beauty of healing through your wounds. Tony shares the inspiration behind his new book Wisdom in the Wound, his personal journey of uncovering hidden hurt, and how naming our pain can unlock God’s purpose in it. This one is real, redemptive, and full of practical hope.
In This Episode
[05:00] Meet Tony Miltenberger: Army Vet, Podcaster, and Swiftie Dad
[07:30] The Meet Cute: Tony & Karen's Church Youth Group Love Story
[09:00] Wisdom in the Wound: Why Tony Wrote This Book
[11:00] Prolonged Stress & How Trauma Shapes Us
[14:00] Tony’s Wound: Feeling Unseen and How It Shaped His Life
[17:00] Secrets, Shame & Emotional Freedom
[20:00] Using the Emotional Intensity Scale to Find Your Wounds
[24:00] Your Wound and Your Gift Might Be Connected
[27:00] Mac & Kenz Reflect: Discovering Their Own Wounds
[30:00] Parenting Through Wounding & Healing in Real-Time
[34:00] God’s Redemption in the Broken Places
[38:00] Final Encouragement: Name It, Heal It, Watch God Use It
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The Pressure to be Perfectly Christian
We’re talking to the girl who feels like she has to be the perfect Christian. We’ve been there too—trying to say the right thing, pray the perfect prayer, and never mess up. But that pressure? It’s exhausting. We open up about the ways we’ve struggled with perfectionism in our own faith and how God has gently reminded us that His grace isn’t something we can earn. Together, we’re breaking down lies, uncovering truth, and choosing freedom over performance. If you’ve ever felt like you had to have it all together, this one’s for you.
In This Episode
[00:00] Let’s Talk About the Pressure to Be Perfect
[01:00] What Perfectionism Looks Like in Our Faith
[03:00] When Culture Becomes the Standard Instead of Christ
[09:00] Where We’ve Seen the Pressure Come From
[16:30] What God Actually Says About Being Holy
[21:00] God’s Grace in Ephesians 2
[22:30] What We Can Do to Break Free
[25:00] How We’re Learning to Be Honest in Community
[27:00] Learning to Rest in God’s Love (For Real)
[28:00] Finding Growth, Not Guilt, in Our Failures
[29:00] Choosing to Be Imperfect on Purpose
[31:00] Final Thoughts + Why We’re So Excited About the Bible Study
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This seven-week, verse-by-verse study through the book of Acts invites you to embrace the unpredictable, sometimes challenging adventure of Spirit-led living that characterized the early church.
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Are you looking for your new favorite podcast that's both entertaining and will challenge you in your walk with Jesus? Welcome to the For The Girl podcast, hosted by best friends Mac and Kenz. Together in college, they started a Bible study called Delight that is now on over 200 college campuses. These days, they're busy juggling being moms, wives, and creating Bible studies and resources specifically for girls in a similar season of life. Every Tuesday, they break down everything they wish someone had told them in their 20s. From faith and relationships to wild career transitions, Mac and Kenz are getting real about all of their missteps and the things God has taught them along the way.