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Let's Make This More Interesting

eatbigfish - Adam Morgan
Let's Make This More Interesting
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    Putting the joy back into work (with Bruce Daisley)

    12/5/2025 | 1h
    If work takes up so much of our lives, and so much of work’s output is down to discretionary effort, how do we make work more engaging - as leaders of teams, and as workers ourselves?

    Bruce Daisley has become a world expert on it. Previously the MD of YouTube in the UK, Bruce was the European Head of Twitter when he started exploring the meaning and future of work in a podcast, Eat Sleep Work Repeat. His first book, The Joy of Work, was a Sunday Times number one business bestseller and an FT Book of the Month. He is also the host of the hugely successful podcast ‘Eat Sleep Work Repeat’.

    In this episode Adam and Bruce first discuss how to get rid of the things that suck the joy out of work, and then how to create a positive buzz in our engagement, as an individual and as a team.

    They talk about:
    What the really big disruption in work has been (and it’s not wfh)
    The essential foundations for making any impact whatsoever on engagement in a culture
    The two key indicators of real engagement at work
    Why idle time is so important
    The real enemy of productivity in an organisation
    The power of Positive Affect
    The surprising importance of laughter

    And why, when so much is known about how to drive up engagement at work, so little of that knowledge makes it into the leadership meetings of big organisations.

    Listen to Eat Sleep Work Repeat:
    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/eat-sleep-work-repeat/id1190000968
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5KUW5Lu36O4nnfIFqIIUh4

    Bruce's books:
    The Joy of Work: 30 Ways to Fix Your Work Culture and Fall in Love with Your Job
    Fortitude: The Myth of Resilience, and the Secrets of Inner Strength

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    Follow Adam on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morgan-3a473a/

    Let's Make This More Interesting is a podcast from eatbigfish. Thanks to our editor Ruth, our producer Travis, and to Tiny Podcasts.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    Leading the world towards hope (with Gail Gallie)

    05/5/2025 | 56 mins.
    We’re at an inflection point in how we engage people about the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals, Gail Gallie believes: we now need a completely new model – ‘The gloves are off’. Gail left a successful career in advertising and at the BBC to help set up Project Everyone with campaigner and film director Richard Curtis – their aim: to communicate the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals to everyone in the world in one week. 10 years later, she remains a relentless campaigner and innovator around communicating the SDGs, including the podcast she hosts with Loyiso Madinga, ‘An Idiot’s Guide to Saving The World’.

    In this week's episode, Gail and Adam discuss:
    How the combination of a big ambition and a fierce time constraint drove breakthrough solutions for Project Everyone
    The new context: how the whole world has changed, and we need to move on from the old model now
    What this new model of impact campaigning should look like
    The role of surprise here, and how to get the most value from it
    Why the creative campaigning community now has to go for broke
    What it means to engage people in the conversation where they care when it comes to the SDGs, and in language they can relate to
    And, in Richard Curtis’ words ‘What is the sound of hope we can make against the noise of despair?’
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    Follow Adam on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morgan-3a473a/

    Let's Make This More Interesting is a podcast from eatbigfish. Thanks to our editor Ruth, our producer Travis, and to Tiny Podcasts.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    Interesting at the speed of culture (with Nick Tran)

    21/4/2025 | 53 mins.
    Is TikTok the most interesting platform in the world? What’s at the heart of its success – and what does it mean to be more interesting in a post TikTok world, when the audience on TikTok is “10x bigger every day than the Super Bowl”?

    In this week’s episode, Adam meets Nick Tran, former Global Head of Marketing at TikTok and advisor to a new generation of Challengers, including tech company Nothing. Nick brings his experience as a marketer, advisor and investor to discuss:

    How TikTok has changed the playing field for a new generation of brands
    How he led ‘Project Cheetah’ to reduce TikTok’s campaign development cycle from 10 weeks to a few days.
    The creativity that financial and time constraints force you to develop
    Why he always looks for win-win-win partnerships
    Learning how to create a ’must-see’ piece of creative work
    Why he believes in moving creative in-house to speed up social
    The need for a balanced diet of marketing measurement beyond KPIs and ROI
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    Connect with Nick on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholastran/

    Follow Adam on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morgan-3a473a/

    Let's Make This More Interesting is a podcast from eatbigfish. Thanks to our editor Ruth, our producer Travis, and to Tiny Podcasts.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    Creating character at Dishoom (with Sara Stark)

    14/4/2025 | 57 mins.
    For 10 years Sara Stark was part of the team helping the founders of Dishoom build their restaurant brand and business – a brand that is as rich, engaging and layered as so many other restaurants are superficial and glib.

    It’s a conversation about stories, and curiosity, and inventiveness, and layering, and pushing the idea. About a continual commitment to exploring and digging and experimenting and keeping things fresh. About thinking about what it means to be different, genuinely different and engaging, in a way that seems entirely unlike the rest of the business.

    If you are remotely interested in brand building, experience or culture the Dishoom story is an inspiration.

    Connect with Sara on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-stark-creative-marketing/

    Explore the layers of the Dishoom story at https://www.dishoom.com/

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    Follow Adam on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morgan-3a473a/

    Let's Make This More Interesting is a podcast from eatbigfish. Thanks to our editor Ruth, our producer Travis, and to Tiny Podcasts.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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    The question is more important than the answer (with Warren Berger)

    07/4/2025 | 54 mins.
    Warren Berger began exploring how to ask better questions through a journalistic interest in innovation. He’s come to believe the importance of questions is much broader than that, and has come on to champion the development of better questioning skills in everything from education to our personal relationships.
    He has written widely on the topic, including ‘A More Beautiful Question: The power of inquiry to spark breakthrough ideas’.

    In a discussion of some of his central findings and ideas we talk about:
    Why the question can be more important than the answer
    What makes a question dull or interesting
    How a good question shifts things
    The power of ‘Questionstorming’
    How a good question ‘attracts’ answers
    His three part model to asking better questions
    Why businesses should think about having Mission Questions, rather than Mission Statements

    And the power for all of us in having three big questions that guide our lives.

    Find out about Warren's books on his website: https://warrenberger.com/warren-bergers-books/
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    Connect with Adam on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-morgan-3a473a/

    Let's Make This More Interesting is a podcast from eatbigfish. Thanks to our editor Ruth, our producer Travis, and to Tiny Podcasts.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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About Let's Make This More Interesting

Do you have moments in your business or personal life when you simply can’t afford to bore your audience? What can we do to hold their undivided attention when it really matters? To find out, Adam Morgan, founder of eatbigfish, speaks to fascinating people who excel at engaging their audience – be they distracted social scrollers, bored schoolchildren or cynical CEOs – and learns from them how we can all be much more interesting. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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