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What should you do when your son starts masturbating? How do you talk about masturbation without creating shame, fear, secrecy, or confusion—and how can that conversation help him develop a healthier relationship with sexuality, pornography, and his own emotions?
In this episode, I sit down again with therapist and author Sam Jolman to talk about one of the most uncomfortable topics many parents face: masturbation in boys and teenagers. We explore how fathers can respond with greater wisdom and steadiness, why sexual curiosity and compulsive sexual behavior are not the same thing, and how masturbation can sometimes become connected with anxiety, self-soothing, emotional regulation, and pornography use.
This conversation is deeply personal for me because masturbation and pornography became tightly connected with shame, secrecy, anxiety, and escape in my own story. For years, I viewed sexual craving almost entirely as a problem of desire and self-control. What I eventually discovered was that sexual behavior had also become a way of regulating my nervous system, relieving emotional pressure, and finding temporary comfort when I did not know how to soothe myself in healthier ways.
Sam and I talk about why that distinction matters both for parents and for men in porn addiction recovery.
We discuss how boys often discover masturbation before they have any meaningful language for what is happening in their bodies, and how a parent's reaction can shape the way a child relates to sexuality for years. We also explore why immediately labeling sexual curiosity as shameful or dangerous can make honest conversations harder, especially when a boy later encounters pornography or begins struggling with compulsive masturbation.
One of the biggest themes in this episode is that context matters. A teenage boy exploring his body is not necessarily experiencing the same thing as a teenager who has developed a pornography and masturbation ritual he uses every time he feels anxious, rejected, lonely, bored, or overwhelmed. Those situations may look similar from the outside, but the emotional function underneath them can be very different.
That same principle applies to adult men trying to quit porn.
Sometimes what feels like a sexual craving is partly a nervous system looking for relief. Pornography and masturbation can become connected with stress, loneliness, shame, exhaustion, boredom, and emotional avoidance until the brain begins treating sexual stimulation as one of its fastest ways to feel better.
When that happens, recovery requires more than simply saying, “Stop.”
We have to understand what the behavior has been doing for us.
In this episode, Sam and I explore how to move from condemnation toward curiosity without abandoning responsibility. We discuss the importance of learning to recognize the emotional state beneath a craving, building healthier forms of self-soothing, slowing down the nervous system, and helping both boys and adult men understand that sexual energy does not always have to be discharged immediately.
We also talk about the difference between suppression and stewardship. Healthy sexuality is not about learning to hate your body or becoming afraid of sexual desire. It is about developing the maturity to experience desire without automatically being controlled by it, while learning how to direct your energy toward relationships, purpose, exercise, creativity, faith, service, and other meaningful parts of life.
For fathers, this means creating a relationship where sexuality can actually be discussed. Your son needs to know that he can bring questions, confusion, mistakes, and struggles to you without being humiliated. That does not mean anything goes. It means anything can be talked about honestly.
For men in pornography addiction recovery, the same principle applies internally. Instead of only asking, “How do I stop looking at porn?” we can begin asking deeper questions: What am I feeling? What is happening in my nervous system? What does pornography seem to offer me in this moment? What part of me is asking for relief? What healthier response would actually meet the need underneath this craving?
These are the kinds of questions that helped transform my own recovery.
If you are a father trying to understand teenage masturbation, a man struggling with porn and masturbation addiction, or someone who grew up carrying deep sexual shame, I hope this conversation gives you a more thoughtful and grounded way to approach the subject.
The goal is not to become afraid of sexuality.
The goal is to understand it well enough to lead it.
And for those of us recovering from pornography addiction, that often means learning that the deepest question is not simply, “How do I stop wanting porn?” but “What has porn been doing for me, and how can I build a life that meets those needs in healthier, more meaningful ways?”
That is where recovery begins to move beyond avoidance and toward genuine self-leadership, connection, emotional regulation, and a life that increasingly supports sobriety from the inside out.

Connect With Sam Jolman → 
Sam Site: https://samjolman.com
Sam’s Substack: https://samjolman.substack.com
Sam's Book: The Sex Talk You Never Got
Link to Blog Article for this Episode
Visit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, the free online community, my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.
If you’re tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.
If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We’ll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Learn more about working 1-on-1 with Jake Kastleman.
My gratitude for the music in this episode (in order of appearance) goes to Ievgen Poltavskyi, Dmitrii Spis, and Aleksey Voroninfrom Pixabay.
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How do you talk to your kids about sex without creating fear, shame, or secrecy—especially if your own sexual story was shaped by purity culture, pornography, or years of confusion?
In this episode, I sit down with therapist and author Sam Jolman, author of The Sex Talk You Never Got, to talk about helping our kids develop a healthy relationship with sexuality. But this conversation goes much deeper than simply figuring out what to say during “the sex talk.”
For many of us as fathers, talking to our kids about sex means first looking at what we were taught ourselves.
Did sexuality feel safe to talk about in your home? Were you taught that sexual curiosity was normal, or did normal arousal quickly become associated with lust, shame, and sin? Did anyone help you understand your body, emotions, relationships, attraction, romance, or sexual desire—or were you largely left to figure these things out for yourself?
Sam and I explore why healthy sexuality requires more than teaching anatomy or telling kids what not to do. Our children need an ongoing conversation about bodies, curiosity, intimacy, emotional connection, relationships, boundaries, pornography, and what it means to treat sexuality as something integrated with the heart.
We also discuss something deeply relevant to porn addiction recovery: sometimes what we experience as sexual “need” is actually emotional dysregulation.
This was a major discovery in my own recovery. Anxiety could turn into a craving for porn. Anger could become sexual preoccupation. Loneliness, stress, pressure, and a chronically tense nervous system could all register inside me as, “I need sexual release.”
That realization changed everything.
A pornography craving may be sexual in form while emotional in origin. Sometimes I do not primarily need sex or orgasm. I need comfort. I need rest. I need connection. I need to process anger. I need to calm my nervous system. Maybe I simply need a hug.
Understanding these deeper emotional triggers can help us develop healthier sexuality ourselves while giving our children a radically different foundation than shame and secrecy.
One of the ideas from this conversation that stayed with me most is simple: your child does not need one perfect sex talk. He needs a relationship where he knows he can keep talking.
The same principle applies to recovery.
Porn addiction thrives in secrecy, fragmentation, shame, and emotional disconnection. Recovery moves us toward honesty, emotional awareness, healthy boundaries, meaningful relationships, and a sexuality that becomes integrated with the rest of who we are.
The goal is not to become afraid of sexual desire. It is to become a man capable of understanding it, leading it, and expressing his sexuality in ways aligned with his deepest values.
And as fathers, we have an opportunity to give our children something better than fear.
Connect With Sam Jolman → 
Sam Site: https://samjolman.com
Sam’s Substack: https://samjolman.substack.com
Sam's Book: The Sex Talk You Never Got

Link to Blog Article for this Episode

Visit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, the free online community, my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.
If you’re tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.
If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We’ll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Learn more about working 1-on-1 with Jake Kastleman.
My gratitude for the music in this episode (in order of appearance) goes to Ievgen Poltavskyi, Yevhen Astafiev, and Aleksey Voroninfrom Pixabay.

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Porn addiction and loneliness are often more connected than we realize. What feels like a powerful sexual craving may sometimes be your brain reaching for something deeper: connection, belonging, emotional relief, or the experience of feeling wanted and known.
In this episode, I sit down with Chris Coursey of Thrive Today to explore why pornography can begin to feel like a form of connection—and why that “connection” ultimately leaves us hungry for more.
Chris introduces the concept of “pseudo-joy,” a counterfeit version of the relational joy our brains are designed to experience with real people. Porn can offer stimulation, attention, fantasy, and temporary relief without requiring vulnerability, patience, rejection, conflict, or the other challenges of genuine relationships. But because it cannot provide real attachment or belonging, we can walk away feeling even more lonely and disconnected than before.
We also explore the relationship between porn addiction and attachment, why some men struggle to recognize or express their emotional needs, and how earlier relational experiences can shape the ways we respond to loneliness, stress, rejection, and overwhelm.
One of my favorite parts of this conversation is that Chris does not leave us with insight alone. We talk about practical relational and emotional regulation skills that men can begin developing right now.
We also discuss something I believe is incredibly important for porn addiction recovery: relational skills are recovery skills. Learning how to listen, receive feedback, recognize when another person needs space, stay emotionally present, and build genuine relationships can reduce our dependence on counterfeit forms of connection.
The goal is not simply to remove pornography from your life. It is to build a life increasingly filled with the things pornography was trying to imitate—joy, belonging, emotional safety, rest, purpose, love, and real connection.

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Link to Blog Article for this Episode
Visit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, the free online community, my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.
If you’re tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.
If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We’ll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Learn more about working 1-on-1 with Jake Kastleman.
My gratitude for the music in this episode (in order of appearance) goes to Ievgen Poltavskyi, Andrii Poradovskyi, and Aleksey Voroninfrom Pixabay.
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If you feel like you need to orgasm before you can focus, relax, sleep, or get on with your life, there may be more happening beneath that sexual craving than you realize.
For much of my teenage years and twenties, I lived in a cycle of wanting orgasm, experiencing it, and then waiting for the desire to build all over again. If I went several days without release, I felt distracted, preoccupied, and unable to fully engage with the rest of my life.
For a long time, I believed this meant my sexual desire was simply too strong.
What I eventually learned was very different.
In this episode, I explore how porn addiction can gradually turn healthy sexual desire into sexual dependence. Porn and masturbation can become more than sexual behaviors—they can become ways of regulating stress, loneliness, anxiety, overwhelm, boredom, emotional pain, and nervous system activation.
When that happens repeatedly, your brain can begin to associate orgasm with relief. Eventually, the urge may feel less like “I want this” and more like “I need this in order to feel normal again.”
But the goal of porn addiction recovery is not to destroy your sexuality.
It is to separate desire from dependency.
I’ll explain why porn cravings and masturbation cravings are often connected to deeper emotional, neurological, biological, relational, and even spiritual needs. I’ll also explore how years of porn and masturbation can condition your sexual template—and why some men continue craving masturbation even when they are sexually active with their spouse.
Most importantly, I’ll give you practical ways to begin replacing compulsive sexual release with healthier forms of regulation, purpose, creation, connection, and emotional mindfulness.
One of the biggest changes in my own recovery came when I stopped treating sexual desire like an enemy I needed to fight.
Instead, I began asking a different question:
What is this energy asking me to do with my life?
You do not have to become less alive, less masculine, or less sexual in order to overcome porn addiction. The work is learning to lead your sexuality rather than allowing it to lead you—to build a healthier relationship with desire that aligns with your values, relationships, purpose, and the man you want to become.
Free Porn Recovery Resources
If you want practical tools to help you overcome porn cravings and build a recovery mindset and lifestyle, I’ve created several free resources for you.
Download The 10 Tools to Conquer Cravings, attend my free workshop The 8 Keys to Lose Your Desire for Porn, or explore The 4 Pillars of Recovery:
https://nomoredesire.com/tools
God bless and much love.
Link to Blog Article for this Episode
Visit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, the free online community, my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.
If you’re tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.
If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We’ll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Learn more about working 1-on-1 with Jake Kastleman.
My gratitude for the music in this episode (in order of appearance) goes to Ievgen Poltavskyi, Mikhail Smusev, Aleksey Voroninfrom Pixabay.
Note: No More Desire provides coaching and educational resources. It is not therapy, medical care, psychiatric treatment, or couples counseling.
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What if some of the pull toward porn addiction isn’t just about sexual desire—but about loneliness, disconnection, and a deeper longing to feel known?
In this episode, I sit down with therapist, author, and professor Chuck DeGroat for a conversation about porn addiction, narcissism, shame, loneliness, healthy masculinity, and what Chuck calls the growing crisis of connection in our culture.
One of the ideas that stood out to me most was pseudo-connection. Pornography, social media, technology, and other forms of high-stimulation escape can give us something that resembles intimacy or connection without requiring the vulnerability of actually being known. We may experience temporary relief or stimulation, only to find ourselves more isolated afterward.
Chuck and I also unpack an important distinction between porn addiction and narcissism. Struggling with addiction does not automatically mean someone has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Yet addictive and narcissistic patterns can sometimes share deeper experiences of shame, inadequacy, self-protection, and the painful sense that I am not enough.
From there, we explore what men may actually be searching for underneath compulsive behavior: worth, belonging, and purpose.
For me, this connects directly with something I learned in my own recovery. There were times when what initially felt like a purely sexual craving became much clearer when I slowed down and listened to what was happening inside me. I could eventually recognize: I don't actually need porn right now. I'm lonely. I want connection.
That shift changes recovery.
Instead of only asking, “How do I make this craving disappear?” we can begin asking, “What is happening inside me, what do I actually need, and how can I move toward something real rather than another form of escape?”
Ultimately, this conversation is about much more than behavior modification. Porn addiction recovery is not simply learning how to say no more forcefully. It is learning how to become a man who can tolerate discomfort, tell the truth, ask for help, develop meaningful relationships, live with purpose, and allow himself to be genuinely known.
If you've been trying to overcome porn addiction through willpower alone, I hope this episode gives you a larger and more hopeful vision of what recovery can become.
Connect with Dr. Chuck DeGroat
Order Chuck's book, Who You're Becoming
Check out Chuck's Soul Care Collaborative

Link to Blog Article for this Episode
Visit No More Desire Tools for Recovery for recovery tools and training, the free online community, my free eBook, Workshop, The RAIL Method ™ and more to help you break free from porn.
If you’re tired of trying to quit porn on your own, the No More Desire Academy gives you a structured path to recovery through coaching, brotherhood, practical tools, and step-by-step training. Learn more about the Academy.
If you want deeper, more personalized support, I also offer 1-on-1 porn addiction recovery coaching. We’ll work directly on your patterns, emotional triggers, recovery plan, and long-term growth. Learn more about working 1-on-1 with Jake Kastleman.
My gratitude for the music in this episode (in order of appearance) goes to Ievgen Poltavskyi, AtlasAudio, and Aleksey Voroninfrom Pixabay.
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