HOP Into Action Podcast Series

Todd Conklin talks with Brent Sutton and Jeff Lyth about the upcoming HOP Workshop in Vancouver (Jan 28–29, 2026), centered on Redonda’s powerful firsthand story of patient safety, complex systems, restorative justice and resilience — lessons that translate across industries.Day one features Redonda’s narrative and panel discussion; day two focuses on hands‑on learning and innovation.Please attend, this workshop will be amazingly good for the soul!For tickets and details visit hopconference.com

Welcome to Season 6 and the 132nd episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action. In this episode of HOP Into Action, Brent Sutton explores Todd Conklin's latest book, "The Stability Trap".Amazon.com link

Welcome to Season 6 and the 131st episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.In this episode of HOP Into Action, Brent Sutton explores the ETTO principle from Erik Hollnagel and how the tradeoffs we make at work and at home are normal, and how HOP and the 4Ds can help us to operationally learn and improve our systems to reduce the presence of tradeoffs in high-risk work activities.

Welcome to Season 6 and the 130th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.In this episode of HOP Into Action, Brent Sutton reframes safety rules from “controlling people” to supporting work. We trace the history of rules from factory-era prohibitions, Taylorist scripts, and audit checklists to today’s HOP mindset, and then show how to make rules useful at the job.

Welcome to Season 6 and the 129th episode of the podcast show HOP Into Action.Today, I reflect on a research article from the Journal of Patient Safety detailing an evaluation of different incident investigation methods within a large United Kingdom National Health Service (NHS) hospital. The study compares the outcomes of Learning Teams with the traditional Root Cause Analysis (RCA) approach for adverse healthcare events. The authors found that Learning Teams generated significantly more actions and a higher percentage of system-focused actions, which are considered more effective compared to RCA. Furthermore, qualitative interviews revealed that Learning Teams foster a more open and less blame-focused culture and involve a wider range of staff than RCA, leading to more robust, system-level solutions for preventing future incidents.