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Thinking outside the box with Gavin Rubinstein

Gavin Rubinstein
Thinking outside the box with Gavin Rubinstein
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  • Thinking outside the box with Gavin Rubinstein

    #56 Chris Helder

    24/05/2026 | 44 mins.
    In this episode, Gavin sits down with renowned sales trainer, keynote speaker and author Chris Helder, whose work on mindset, communication and “useful belief” has helped shape the performance of some of the top performers in real estate and beyond.
    Chris unpacks the difference between blind positivity and useful thinking, explaining why elite salespeople can see opportunity where others see tough times. Plus, what separates average agents from elite performers, why consistency is often the missing link and why the words you say to yourself when no one is around may be the most important part of your day.
    Episode Breakdown
    00:00 – 05:00Chris’ background, global speaking career, early connection with Gavin and why his sales strategies are more relevant than ever.
    05:00 – 10:00From Colorado to Australia, real estate, auctioneering and the path that led Chris into training and keynote speaking.
    10:00 – 15:00The concept of Useful Belief, why positive thinking is not always sustainable, and how your brain filters for what you choose to focus on.
    15:00 – 20:00Market pressure, consistency, reassessing your purpose and the power of acting “as if” before results arrive.
    20:00 – 27:00Designing a life for excellence, setting boundaries, managing distraction and using energy, posture and language as performance tools.
    27:00 – 32:00Chris’ personally useful beliefs: dealing with tough situations, acceptance, radical responsibility, and moving out of blame.
    32:00 – 37:00Personality colours, adapting communication styles and what elite salespeople tend to have in common.
    37:00 – 41:00Movement versus progress, income-producing activity, preparation, and why many agents stay busy without getting better.
    41:00 – EndIdentity, motivation, leadership, “Brigadier Blood,” and how the way you define yourself ultimately shapes your results.
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    #55 Jay Luchs

    28/04/2026 | 1h 5 mins.
    In this episode, Gavin sits down with legendary retail broker Jay Luchs, the powerhouse behind some of Los Angeles' most iconic commercial property transactions, including the recent $400 million Hermès deal on Rodeo Drive.

    Though a strict NDA limits the details of that sale, Jay opens up about his rise from a struggling assistant, his unconventional pivot from entertainment into real estate, emphasising why long-term relationships and a "Monopoly board" vision for the city are the true drivers of his success and he pulls back the curtain on his work ethic, explaining why an obsession with deep local knowledge will always outperform shortcuts and social media fame.
    Episode Breakdown

    00:00 – 05:00
    Beverly Hills Hotel setup, Jay’s signboard domination and origins in DC before the move to LA.

    05:00 – 12:00
    Five years chasing acting and agency life before the “real estate ages like wine” lightbulb moment.

    12:00 – 20:00
    Breaking into commercial at 29, endless cold calls, first $28M deal and landing Etro on Rodeo.

    20:00 – 27:00
    Obsessive list‑making and how messy scribbles become blue‑chip deals.

    27:00 – 35:00
    How other brokers are your biggest clients and how relationships win tight, competitive sites.

    35:00 – 45:00
    Malibu and LA masterclass: formula retail rules and curating brands via Instagram.

    45:00 – 55:00
    Rodeo Drive 101: double vs single lots, pricing and staying inside a big firm.

    55:00 – 62:00
    Jay’s three levers: hoard knowledge, outwork everyone and stay humble because it can all end.

    62:00 – 67:00
    Personal life, relationships, routines and what “switching off” really looks like.

    67:00 – End
    Advice for young agents who want to be “the next Jay Luchs”.
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    #54 Tony O'Doherty

    05/04/2026 | 37 mins.
    In this episode, Gavin sits down with Tony O'Doherty, one of Brisbane’s top-performing agents, to unpack the mindset and work ethic behind his rapid rise in real estate.
    From leaving school at 16 to building a multimillion-dollar business, Tony shares what it really takes to succeed, the role of energy and discipline, and why most agents stay busy but never become truly productive.
    Episode Breakdown
    00:00 – 05:00Early life, leaving school, family influence and the foundation of his work ethic
    05:00 – 10:00Moving to Australia, construction work and how real estate became the path forward
    10:00 – 15:00Starting from zero, hitting the phones and building momentum through energy
    15:00 – 20:00Rapid growth, building a business and scaling to a top-performing office
    20:00 – 25:00The importance of service, creating raving fans and delivering for vendors
    25:00 – 30:00What separates top agents, focus, productivity and eliminating distractions
    30:00 – 33:30Team structure, burnout, relationships and life outside of work
    33:30 – EndThe real formula for success, emotional intelligence, discipline, energy and consistency
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    #53 Ben Bandari

    01/03/2026 | 27 mins.
    In this episode, Gavin sits down in Dubai with Ben Bandari, one of the city’s most recognisable real estate figures and the driving force behind Million Dollar Listing Dubai. With over two decades in the market, Ben has witnessed and helped shape Dubai’s transformation from a desert outpost into one of the most dynamic real estate arenas in the world
    From delivering pizzas in Vancouver to closing half-a-billion-dollar deals, Ben’s journey is built on belief, relentless hustle and an obsession with being number one. He shares what it took to survive market crashes, rebuild after losing half his wealth, launch multiple businesses during COVID, and leverage global exposure to scale across brokerage, development and investment.

    Episode Breakdown
    00:00 – 03:00Introduction to Ben and his 23-year journey in Dubai real estate
    03:00 – 06:00Arriving in Dubai in the early 2000s — culture shock, no social media, pure hustle and building business through cold calling and hotel networking
    06:00 – 08:00Selling the dream of Dubai before it was built. Belief, conviction and backing a vision others doubted
    08:00 – 10:00Career mistakes, inconsistency, chasing sign-on bonuses and lessons from the GFC
    10:00 – 14:00Launching his own company during COVID, leveraging Million Dollar Listing exposure, and scaling to 70+ staff across multiple businesses
    14:00 – 16:00Dubai’s explosive growth, investor returns, and why Ben believes the market is still in its early innings
    16:00 – 18:00How Ben brought Million Dollar Listing to Dubai — knocking on doors, pitching developers and executing the biggest deal of his career
    18:00 – 20:00If starting again in 2025: mentorship, rentals, grassroots hustle and earning respect from the ground up
    20:00 – 23:00What separates great agents from average ones — empathy, discipline, competitiveness and playing the long game
    23:00 – EndLosing wealth, being told he was “washed up,” reigniting the fire to become number one again, and why Dubai remains the land of opportunity
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    #52 Josh Morrissey

    10/02/2026 | 54 mins.
    Gavin sits down with Canberra-based Josh Morrissey, founder of Hive Property, to unpack what it really takes to build an elite real estate business from the ground up, and sustain performance at scale.
    From starting Hive with no money in the bank, a newborn baby, and four staff working out of a concrete garage, to becoming the only independent agency to hold second market share across the ACT, Josh breaks down the mindset, discipline, and systems behind long-term success.
    This conversation dives deep into compounding time, building high-performance ecosystems, ruthless accountability, and the one percenters that separate good operators from truly elite ones, all while balancing family, health, and leadership at scale.
    Episode Breakdown
    00:00 – 05:00
    Introduction to Josh Morrissey and Hive Property; early parallels with Gavin’s journey; overview of Hive’s growth, positioning, and vision in the Canberra market.
    05:00 – 10:00
    Founding Hive from scratch, leaving the franchise model, starting with a newborn and no capital; the importance of clarity, vision, and committing before conditions are perfect.
    10:00 – 15:00
    Early-career struggles, burning the ships at 27, losing time due to lack of discipline, and the moment accountability became non-negotiable.
    15:00 – 20:00
    Compounding time through project marketing, delayed gratification, doing the work others avoid, and accelerating wealth creation through leverage.
    20:00 – 25:00
    Building momentum through high-end results while monetising volume stock; running parallel business models to scale faster and smarter.
    25:00 – 30:00
    Discipline, consistency, and accountability are the true differentiators; why most agents are consistent at being inconsistent.
    30:00 – 35:00
    Time chunking, personal KPIs, and managing energy; structuring days for performance without burnout.
    35:00 – 40:00
    The real cost of business ownership: leadership pressure, sacrifice, family strain, and the realities behind polished brands.
    40:00 – 45:00
    Running a real estate business like a professional sports team: culture, retention, standards, and why elite environments attract elite performers.
    45:00 – 50:00
    Results-based selling, market mastery, and adapting strategy to micro-markets; auctions versus private treaty and protecting vendor outcomes.
    50:00 – End
    One percenters, brand consistency, belief, and playing the long game; why success compounds quietly before it becomes visible.
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About Thinking outside the box with Gavin Rubinstein
Conversations between Gavin Rubinstein & the people he believes have trailblazed by thinking outside the box in their field, industry or even just in his office. Gavin is defining a new era of real estate. His unparalleled commitment to excellence makes him one of the most sought-after property advisers in Sydney. Awarded Ray White’s number 1 salesperson across the state of New South Wales for 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019. In 2018 and 2019, this extended to the Ray White Group globally. As his first year as a principal, he ranked number 1 across Australia & New Zealand based on sales across the entire Ray White Group.
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