Dig Deeper

Do you know that feeling when you're the one everyone comes to, the one with the answers, the one holding it all together? It can feel like competence. It might actually be a bottleneck with your name on the label.
In this solocast I share a moment from a coaching conversation with a leader who runs a big, messy part of the health system. She described her role as owning the circus, then caught herself and landed on something better: it's everybody's circus, and she's just the ringleader. I unpack why that distinction matters, why leaders who hold onto everything end up exhausted, and why what they build tends to wobble the moment they step back.
You'll get:
Why "I own that circus" and "it's everybody's circus" are two completely different ways to lead
The difference between the ringleader and someone carrying every act themselves
Why being across everything feels like competence, but works against you over time
What tends to happen to a team the moment a leader who's been holding everything steps back
A question worth sitting with: which parts of your circus were never yours to own in the first place
Where to find my free five-minute Collective Brilliance self-assessment

Other references
Are You the Circus Owner or the Ringleader? Blog Post
Free five-minute leadership self-assessment: Your Lasting Impact Stage

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What if the thing you're calling stuck is actually the moment your character is being revealed, not tested?
Most of us treat the messy middle, that stretch between where we are and where we'd rather be, as something to survive rather than something to learn from. We chase the next skill, the next framework, the next fix, when the real block might be a story we've been telling ourselves for years without ever checking if it's still true.
This episode is an invitation to slow down and look at that gap differently. My guest Andrew Horsfield has spent his career helping leaders navigate exactly this territory, and he brings a host mindset and a systems-aware lens to it: rather than pushing for outcomes, he asks what a person, a team, or a relationship actually needs to move well. Andrew is a performance consultant and the author of Better. He's also just come through eighteen months in which he and his wife counted twelve or thirteen major life events hitting at once, including his mother's cancer diagnosis and a son struggling at school. What he shares isn't theory. It's lived.
In this conversation, we explore:
Why the messy middle reveals who we are rather than building it from scratch
How to tell the difference between productive struggle and simply spinning your wheels
Why reflection is a practice almost nobody actually does, and what gets in the way
How a mentor's question, "why do you always have to be approved of?", can expose a story problem hiding behind what looks like a skill problem
Why courage in leadership often looks quiet rather than dramatic
How the tool Bigger Me and Smaller Me can help you notice which version of yourself is driving
Why understanding someone's perspective matters more than winning the argument
How three simple end of day questions can turn effort into genuine growth

I wonder what might shift if you started treating your own messy middle as information rather than a problem to fix. What's possible here isn't a tidier life. It's a truer one.

Timestamps:
(00:00) - Navigating the Messy Middle
(12:12) - Choosing Between Bigger Me and Smaller Me
(20:57) - Turning Struggles into Strengths
(31:08) - The Courage to Lead: Insights from Mentorship
(38:55) - Productive vs. Unproductive Struggle: Finding the Right Path
(46:52) - The Power of Story: Shaping Our Leadership Journey
References:
Robin Sharma
The Messy Middle | Scott Belsky
Bigger Me Tool

You can find Andrew at:
Website: andrewhorsfield.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewhorsfield/

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You've probably noticed that the way you lead in one room doesn't quite land in the next. The approach that makes you sharp in a crisis can fall flat in a quiet one-on-one. And most of the time you're not choosing your style at all. You're running the one that comes naturally.
This solocast looks at two things that separate leaders who operate well at senior levels: fluency and fluidity.
Fluency is your range across the organisation. The ability to move between functions, contexts and conversations without losing your footing. Fluidity is quieter. It's noticing your default mode and choosing, in the moment, to step out of it when the situation in front of you asks for something else.
You'll come away with a clearer read on your own defaults, and a simple way to choose who you need to be before you walk into the room.
Here's some of what we get into:
Why fluency is built over time, through the range of experiences you collect along the way
What organisational literacy actually looks like, and why fluent leaders lean on it
The difference between knowing your natural style and being run by it
A door-framing question to ask before any meeting: who do I need to be here?
Why self-awareness, not just behaviour, is the real marker of fluidity

Have a think about your own default mode as you listen. I reckon you'll spot it quickly. The more interesting question is what it might be costing you on the days you don't step out of it.
Fluency & Fluidity Blog Post

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Have you ever caught yourself fighting a habit, a reaction, a way of showing up that you've been trying to fix for years? There's something worth sitting with in that. What if the behaviour you want to change isn't actually broken? What if it's doing exactly what it was designed to do, but it’s now just well past the point where it's still useful?
In this episode, Dr. Amy Silver and I explore the idea that the patterns we run, like people-pleasing, over-controlling, avoiding the hard conversation, aren't character flaws but protective strategies. They made sense at some point. The work isn't to fight them. It's to see them clearly, meet them with self-compassion, and then get deliberate about what happens next. I wonder what becomes possible for you and the people you lead when that reframe lands.
Dr. Amy Silver is a clinical psychologist with over three decades of experience studying how fear and habit shape human behaviour. She began her career at Oxford University, where she worked as a tutor and researcher before making a bold leap to drama school and then into the corporate world. She is the author of the award-winning book The Loudest Guest: How to Change and Control Your Relationship with Fear, and works with organisations, leadership teams, and executives across Australia to build cultures of courageous collaboration. Amy brings rare depth to this space: the rigour of clinical psychology combined with the humanity of someone who lives what she teaches.
You'll learn:
How to recognise a protective pattern for what it is, without making it mean something about who you are
Why self-compassion isn't a nice-to-have idea but the prerequisite for any real behaviour change
How fear operates in teams and why so much of what looks like dysfunction is actually people trying to stay safe
Why the question isn't "what's wrong with this pattern?" but "how flexible can I be with it?"
How to identify your personal choice points and build experiments for what to do differently
Why changing your environment, even in small ways, can shift the pattern before you've said a word
How the difference between self-awareness and deliberate action is where real leadership lives
Why the most useful thing you can do with your fear is stop fighting it and start using it as a guide

Other References
The Loudest Guest | Dr. Amy Silver
Conversations Create Growth | Dr. Amy Silver
Oxford Guide to Behavioural Experiments in Cognitive Therapy | Bennett-Levy, Westbrook
Exposure Therapy: Flooded vs Graded Approach
The Amygdala and Threat Detection

Timestamps:
(00:00) - Mastering Fear: A Personal Journey
(05:51) - The Role of Self-Compassion
(17:49) - Deliberate Action and Choice Points
(21:10) - Changing the Environment for Better Outcomes
(29:37) - Understanding Team Dynamics and Patterns
(42:34) - The Power of Choice in Everyday Life

You can find Dr. Amy Silver at:
Website: https://www.dramysilver.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysilverbrave

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Right now, public sector organisations across New Zealand are losing people in numbers we haven't seen before. The redundancy figures get reported. The org chart gets updated. But what happens to the knowledge that walks out the door with them, the way someone could read a tricky stakeholder in three seconds, the history of why a system was built the way it was, the relationships that kept the wheels turning?
In this solocast, Digby argues most leaders are treating workforce reduction as a numbers exercise when it's actually a capability exercise. Systems and technology can pick up some of the slack. They cannot replace the relational, tacit knowledge that lives in people's heads and in how a team works together. Digby sets out a practical way to prepare for these transitions: map where critical capability actually sits before it leaves, invest deliberately in the people who stay, and build systems strong enough to survive the next departure. As he puts it, you can be the fire or the fire tender.
You'll learn:
How to identify the institutional knowledge that exists only in people's heads, before it walks out the door
Why systems and technology can't replace the relational work that holds a team together
The difference between leading as the fire and leading as the fire tender
A practical way to map critical capability before a restructure hits
How to invest in the people who stay so they can carry things forward
What it actually takes to build a team that survives transition without falling apart

Other References
What Survives When People Leave Blog Post

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